Vincent Jong

Growth Machines: Combining Product-Led Growth and Sales

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Learn how to combine Product-Led Growth and Sales to grow a B2B business. We'll discuss case studies and talk with thought leaders in the PLG and growth community. www.growthmachines.com

Author

Vincent Jong

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Business

Podcast website

www.growthmachines.com

Latest episode

Jul 23, 2025

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Episodes

How To Adjust Self-Serve When Moving Upmarket | Saravana Kumar, Kovai.co 23.07.2025

On this episode of the Growth Machines podcast I sit down with Saravana Kumar, the founder of Kovai.co, to explore the journey of Document360, one of the products under the Kovai.co umbrella. We’ll discuss the strategies behind Document360's growth, the challenges of a crowded market, and the shift from PLG to assisted selling. Saravana shares his unique perspective on the importance of unders...

Combining Human- and Product-Led Onboarding | Ramli John, Delightpath 17.07.2025

This episode I have the pleasure of talking with Ramli John,founder of Delight Path and author of "Product-led Onboarding." We discuss why companies today need to focus on a hybrid approach, combining product-led and human interaction for effective onboarding. It’s what led him to write his new book, "Eureka," and evolve his focus on scalable onboarding for high-growth B2B comp...

Using ABM to Create Handraisers | Constantinos Yenis, Holded 10.07.2025

In this episode of the Growth Machines podcast I speak with Constantinos (Costas) Yenis, VP of Sales and Customer Success at Holded. Costas shares his unique career trajectory from a full-stack web developer to a sales leader in a growing SaaS company. He discusses the importance of understanding customer pain points, the implementation of a product-led sales strategy, and the challenges of engagi...

Streamlining Lead Assignment Without Losing Revenue | Sara Archer, Chartmogul 02.07.2025

Key Quote: "What’s good for the business is good for you. And if I’m wrong, I’ll do right by you." Summary: In this episode of Growth Machines , I sit down with Sara Archer from ChartMogul to unpack how she overhauled their lead qualification process to reduce sales workload without sacrificing revenue.  With a hybrid go-to-market model and 800+ monthly trial signups, Sara faced the toug...

Driving Growth and Go-To-Market Efficiency with PLG | Jesse Ervin, Nylas 12.09.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines Podcast, host Vincent Jong speaks with Jesse Ervin, CRO at Nylas, about the company's journey from a sales-led approach to a hybrid product-led sales model over the past two years. Jesse introduces Nylas and describes how the migration from traditional sales to a product-led growth strategy has impacted the company's sales, customer acquisition, and internal...

Adding Sales to a Scaling Product-Led Business | Kristen Habacht, Typeform 29.08.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines podcast, host Vincent Jong speaks with Kristen Habacht, Chief Revenue Officer at Typeform, about integrating sales into a product-led growth framework as a company scales. Kristen discusses the evolution of Typeform from a PLG pioneer to incorporating sales without creating artificial barriers for customers. She highlights the importance of customer success,...

Learnings From a 2-Year Journey Towards Product-Led Growth | Sindre Haaland, SalesScreen 15.08.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines podcast, host Vincent Jong speaks with Sindre Haaland, CEO of SalesScreen, about the company’s nearly two-year journey to launch a Product-Led Growth offering. Sindre discusses SalesScreen history, their sales gamification platform, and the challenges and strategies involved in shifting from a sales-led to a product-led approach. Key topics include the import...

Leveraging Trials When Selling Complex Products | Laura Erdem, Dreamdata 01.08.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines podcast, host Vincent Jong talks with Laura Erdem from Dreamdata about their unique approach to combining product-led growth and traditional sales in their go-to-market strategy. Laura delves into her role and the evolution of Dreamdata's sales strategy, from a sales-led model to incorporating a free trial product-led component. They discuss the trials and tr...

Enabling Self-Service in a Regulated Industry | Andrew Davies, Paddle 18.07.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines Podcast, Vincent Jong hosts Andrew Davies, CMO of Paddle, to discuss how Paddle went from a product-led model back to a sales-led model to end up in its current hybrid state. Andrew provides insights into Paddle’s transition from a sales-driven model to an integrated product-led and sales strategy, the importance of understanding customer decision processes,...

Finding the right moment to activate the sales team | Susann Johansen, Oneflow 04.07.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I speak with Susann Johansen, Head of Growth and User Experience at OneFlow, about how they introduced Product-Led Growth at Oneflow, a traditionally sales-led company. Susans shares the evolution of OneFlow's go-to-market strategy, the challenges of implementing a freemium model, and the nuances of segmenting and scoring product-qualified leads (PQL...

How Userpilot Balances Product-Led and Sales-Assisted Growth | Yazan Sehwail, Userpilot 20.06.2024

In this episode of the Growth Machines podcast, Vincent Jong talks with Yazan Sehwail, co-founder of Userpilot, about integrating product-led strategies with human touch for optimal sales and expansion. Yazan shares Userpilot’s journey from focusing on one feature to managing complex product offerings, highlighting their approach to balancing free trials and demo CTAs based on the type of customer...

The more you give, the better your leads get qualified | Mathias Thulin, GetAccept 06.06.2024

On this episode of the Growth Machines podcast I speak with Mathias Thulin from GetAccept. He shares how they developed the Go-to-Market model for GetAccept going from sales-led to freemium and now a combination of sales-led and free trial. As of today combines a free trial, an interactive product tour, and a book-a-demo option in an intuitive way. Depending on the customer profile, one or more of...

Finding your place on the PLG and Sales spectrum | Japna Sethi 25.04.2024

In the seventh episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I speak with Japna Sethi, Product and Growth leader at Calendly. Previously she has been a lead for Product and Growth at Dropbox and she built and led the Growth team at Productboard from the ground up. Each of these companies dealt with a large flow of incoming users and Japna shares how they built support and sales motions on top of this to...

Using in-app messaging for tailored user experiences | Todd Olson 11.04.2024

In the sixth episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I speak with Todd Olson, the co-founder and CEO of Pendo, about leveraging in-app messaging for tailored user experiences and the impactful role of Product-Led Growth (PLG) in sales operations. We discuss robust PLG strategies employed by companies ranging from startups to large enterprises, including personalized onboarding flows, efficient go-...

The sales paradigm shift | Leah Tharin 28.03.2024

In the fifth episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I sit down with Leah Tharin. Leah is a leading Product-Led Growth (PLG) advisor for scaling B2B companies and Interim CPGO of GotPhoto. She led products like Jua and Smallpdf and is portfolio growth advisor to VC funds like Notion Capital. She writes about her experiences and hosts a podcast on Leah’s ProducTea. In our talk, Leah emphasizes the...

Introducing PLG when you are doing sales | Ben Williams 14.03.2024

In the fourth episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I sit down with Ben Williams, a product and growth executive with over 20 years of experience at companies like Snyk and Cloudbees, and the author of The Product-Led Geek. We talk about how to combine Product-Led Growth (PLG) with sales strategies to drive company growth. Ben shares insights from his experiences, including his time at Snyk, on...

Secrets to Success from Leadfeeder's Growth Model | Pekka Koskinen 29.02.2024

In the third episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I talk with Pekka Koskinen, Co-Founder of Leadfeeder (nowadays part of Dealfront). He explains how they developed a successful Product-Led Sales model long before PLG became a buzzword. Leadfeeder was founded in 2012 when Pekka and his co-founders hit a wall with traditional sales methods in their previous company. Right out of the gate, they em...

Pricing challenges in PLG | Kyle Poyar 15.02.2024

In the second episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I talk with Kyle Poyar, Operating Partner at Openview and writer of the Growth Unhinged newsletter. We talk about what to do when you have a pricing model in place for a sales motion and are considering to introduce PLG.Pricing and packaging can be an enabler or blocker when thinking about product-led approaches. Kyle talks about the different...

Introducing a self serve plan at Amplitude | Franciska Dethlefsen 01.02.2024

In this first episode of the Growth Machines podcast, I talk with Franciska Dethlefsen, the Head of Growth Marketing at Amplitude. We discuss the recent experiences they’ve had launching the Plus plan, a new self serve option for Amplitude. We focus on how companies can successfully transition to a product-led strategy if they are doing sales today. Franciska shares insights about the process of b...

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