Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson

Why are so many young women leaving the church—not because they've lost faith, but because of how they're treated? In this probing episode, Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson tackle the generational divide that's shaking church communities and workplaces everywhere. The issue isn't just about doctrine—it's about culture, communication, and how we deal with correction and critique. Get ready for...

Can something as simple as slowing down change your life—or your relationship? On this episode of Grown and Growing, Keion Henderson and Shaunie Henderson dive headfirst into how America’s obsession with hustle is creating a craving for slower, more intentional moments—often found on the golf course. From pandemic burnout to the curious language of golf, nothing is off-limits in this hilarious, ho...

Does everyone crave love, but commitment still feels like a disappearing act? This episode dives into the widening gap between wanting real connection and actually showing up for it—especially for men. Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson get real about why commitment trips people up, how cultural norms and emotional discipline play into relationship struggles, and why valuing something isn’t the...

Are podcasts replacing pastors? In this episode of Grown and Growing, Keion and Shaunie Henderson tackle the culture shift where therapy podcasts, influencers, and viral opinions compete with the traditional role of spiritual leaders. From hilarious shoe debates to deep questions about authority, faith, and why everyone with a mic thinks they’re an expert, nothing is off-limits. Dive in as they ex...

Can you ever truly erase a memory—or are you just covering up the reminders? This episode dives deep with real talk on the nature of memories, tattoos, and the myths of moving on. Shaunie Henderson and Keion Henderson draw bold connections between physical reminders and the emotional experiences we try to leave behind. On the table: what it means to remove symbols from our lives, why some wounds r...

Is college sports’ NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) revolution actually robbing our kids of their childhood—or opening new doors for entire families? This raw, honest conversation isn’t just for parents of athletes; it’s for anyone grappling with what happens when big money and ambition collide with coming of age. Keion and Shaunie Henderson pull back the curtain on NIL deals, academic “redshirting,” a...

What happens when you close a major chapter of your life—on your own terms, in front of millions? In this raw and honest episode, Keion and Shaunie Henderson get real about the journey from big dreams and public scrutiny to new beginnings after reality TV. This conversation isn’t just about stepping out of the “Basketball Wives” spotlight—it’s about risk, reward, reputation, and what it means to t...

Can you spot the moment when communication breaks down—and why so many relationships get stuck there? In this raw, often hilarious episode, Keion and Shaunie Henderson dive deep into the real dynamics of communication, gossip, and emotional triggers within marriage, friendships, and the world at large. From “mean bias” to misunderstood gossip, nothing is off limits: hear how the right tone can mak...

Can you spot the moment when communication breaks down—and why so many relationships get stuck there? In this raw, often hilarious episode, Keion and Shaunie Henderson dive deep into the real dynamics of communication, gossip, and emotional triggers within marriage, friendships, and the world at large. From “mean bias” to misunderstood gossip, nothing is off limits: hear how the right tone can mak...

Ever wonder why couples argue about the smallest things? Turns out, it’s never just about the dishes. In this episode, Keion and Shaunie Henderson get real about the everyday battles—laundry habits, thermostat wars, remote control drama, and even calendar chaos—that show up in every relationship. With honesty, humor, and faith-driven insight, they reveal what’s really underneath those surface-leve...

Is confidence something you’re born with—or could the loudest person in the room be the one struggling most? In this refreshingly honest conversation, Keion and Shaunie Henderson pull back the curtain on the myth of “having it all together” and explore the difference between real, quiet confidence and the kind that’s just for show. Using personal stories, hard-won lessons, and moments of raw vulne...

What does it really mean to “heal well” when life cuts deep? Keion and Shaunie Henderson get real about the messy, ongoing journey of healing—why “just pray about it” isn’t always enough, and how everyone’s process is personal. This episode unpacks the myths and realities around grief, emotional pain, and the cultural pressure to move on. You’ll discover why true healing isn’t one-size-fits-all an...

Is “setting boundaries” really about protecting yourself, or are we building emotional walls out of fear? In this candid episode, Keion Henderson and Shaunie Henderson challenge the boundary buzzword—and unpack how often “boundaries” become weapons, excuses, or emotional armor that keeps out both hurt and healing. Digging into cancel culture, friendship, vulnerability, and the mental health crisis...

New episodes every week! Grown & Growing by Keion and Shaunie Henderson features media mogul Shaunie and husband Keion Henderson. The two hold no punches, deliver powerful relationship insights, actionable real-life advice, and revealing moments in their development as a power couple in the spiritual and culture spaces. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Is love found or created?” Keion asks to kick off this episode. The Hendersons discuss Black love and Black joy, emphasizing the need to understand what brings happiness to oneself and to our partner. Reflecting on their love story, Shaunie declares that they found love and then created joy. Keion affirms that the superpower of their relationship is consistently choosing to love one another by cu...

As sought-after public figures, Keion and Shaunie maneuver sharing the spotlight in marriage and business. The cultural and religious superstars illuminate how they tag team and complement each other in work and life: Keion tends to assume a “visionary” big-picture role while Shaunie typically functions as a detail-oriented “facilitator.” In this episode, the Hendersons unpack why “competition isn...

Black children in America are growing up in a society that often reduces them to destructive stereotypes. Keion and Shaunie Henderson discuss how they’ve used discipline as a shield to keep their children safe. Keion emphasizes the importance of teaching children to respect authority while also instilling in them a sense of self-worth and the ability to navigate societal expectations. Shaunie shar...

Parenting is one of the toughest jobs in the world. Keion and Shaunie agree that while parents can be friendly with children, attempting to be friends undermines the parental role. Believing that kids need guidance, Shaunie critiques the concept of “gentle parenting,” and emphasizes the importance of creating structure for children. She also reflects on her parenting style, acknowledging that she...

What do our relationship hangups and boundaries have in common? The Hendersons discuss how unhealthy relationship baggage has the potential to become healthy boundaries. Shaunie explains how establishing a clear marriage mission creates healthy boundaries, and shares how giving Keion the time and space to challenge her painful experiences helped her address relationship trauma. Shaunie also advise...

Keion and Shaunie tackle the age-old question: “Can men and women be just friends?” Shaunie raises concerns about the potential for infidelity and the need for setting healthy boundaries. Keion emphasizes the importance of using wisdom: while it’s okay to have friends of the opposite sex, your partner should always be your “safe space” and the person you confide in. They also touch on the idea of...

Keion and Shaunie learned everything they know about money the hard way. The Hendersons examine money’s role in the power dynamic of a committed relationship. Shaunie discusses moving from being provided an allowance in her previous marriage to learning the hard way how to be financially independent and save for a rainy day. Reflecting on a recent large expense, Keion emphasizes the importance of...

There’s a certain stigma that accompanies being single in church. Our dynamic hosts get into why presenting marriage as the gold standard for relationships might undermine the benefits of being “saved and single.” Keion reminds us that the consequences for not living a righteous life aren’t reserved for the single members of the church. Shaunie opens up about her experience in the dating pool afte...

Keion believes we live in a time when people covet convenience and “are allergic to commitment.” With his wife, Shaunie, he discusses why devoting oneself to marriage is a blessing and not a burden. Shaunie questions whether we’ve moved away from true commitment because we’re more focused on what we can get out of a relationship instead of what we can contribute. Keion dispels the misconception th...

Despite differing communication styles, Keion and Shaunie are committed to a relationship based on respect and mutual growth. She’s a self-described “winger” who is used to going at it alone. He’s a planner and delegator who usually has a clear vision. In this episode, they get into why men experience anxiety when they hear “We need to talk.” And why when men say “Let’s talk,” they tend to have a...

Growing up, Keion’s mother outlined clear family values: “Always tell the truth,” respectfully address people as “Sir” or “Ma’am,” and reserve judgment (lest you be judged yourself!). Shaunie’s mother taught her to be “ladylike” and “stay out of grown folks’ business,” while her father taught her to be “street smart” and “keep her head on a swivel.” Despite being raised states apart in two differe...