The Dougy Center
Grief Out Loud
Remember the last time you tried to talk about grief and suddenly everyone left the room? Grief Out Loud is opening up this often avoided conversation because grief is hard enough without having to go through it alone. We bring you a mix of personal stories, tips for supporting children, teens, and yourself, and interviews with bereavement professionals. Platitude and cliché-free, we promise! Grief Out Loud is hosted by Jana DeCristofaro and produced by The Dougy Center for Grieving Children & Families in Portland, Oregon.
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Episodes
Were You Close? Always A Sibling With Annie Sklaver Orenstein 24.01.2025 41:26
In this episode we talk with Annie Sklaver Orenstein , author of Always A Sibling: The Forgotten Mourners . Annie talks about her older brother, Ben, who died when he was deployed in Afghanistan, and how his sudden death reshaped her understanding of grief and loss. They discuss the unique challenges of sibling loss and how Annie ultimately decided to write the book she wished she had when Ben die...
What Remains: Rupert Callender on Grief, Rituals, and Redefining Funerals 10.01.2025 44:37
In this episode, we talk with Ru Callender , author of What Remains: Life, Death, and the Human Art of Undertaking . Ru shares his personal experience with profound childhood loss to becoming a self-proclaimed radical undertaker. We also discuss the impact of grief at different life stages, how participation in funerals can be helpful for children, and reimagining rituals to accurately reflect th...
Shatterproof: Telling The Truth About Grief with Lauren Sisler 03.01.2025 50:48
Grief can be shattering - and it can also reveal unexpected strength and resilience. In this episode, we're joined by Lauren Sisler , award -winning sports broadcaster, ESPN Sideline reporter, and author of Shatterproof: How I Overcame the Shame of Losing My Parents to Opioid Addiction (and Found my Sideline Shimmy) . Lauren shares her powerful story of losing her parents, who died within hours o...
It's Okay That It's Not The Same - Grief At The Holidays 19.12.2024 28:09
[This episode originally aired December, 2023] This time of year can be grueling for anyone, but particularly for those who are grieving. So, each year we put out an episode to help you feel less alone and hopefully more equipped to traverse the next few weeks. Today's guest, Melissa Peede Thompson, M.S., is a Grief Services Coordinator at Dougy Center. While she has lots of professional knowledge...
It Can Be So Awkward - Holidays & Grief 06.12.2024 42:57
It's our annual holidays and grief episode! In the past we've focused on more tangible tips and suggestions for supporting kids, teens, and adults during this time of year. This year we decided to focus on one person's lived experience with how the holidays can get really awkward when grief is involved. Ana Salazar-Walsh was just nineteen when her father died in a mountain climbing accident. A few...
Grieving While Parenting - Reshma Kearney 20.11.2024 43:35
When Reshma Kearney's husband Sean died of suicide, her immediate concern was their three young children. She needed to figure out how to talk to them about his death - and his life - all while meeting their emotional and physical needs. Pretty quickly she realized her needs also had to be met so she could keep showing up for them. Reshma and her kids had an established mindfulness practice before...
They Are Part Of Our Family - Grieving A Pet 09.11.2024 51:21
In May of 2024, Christine Passo's beloved dog, Maya Ray, took her last breath in Christine's arms. This wasn't the first time Christine experienced loss or trauma, but the grief she felt and continues to feel for Maya Ray caught her off guard with its intensity and depth. We talk about Maya Ray's last day, how Christine's other dog, Zoe, grieved, and how Christine and her partner are finding ways...
Let's Hear It For The Kids - Grief In Their Own Words 01.11.2024 24:47
In honor of Children's Grief Awareness month, we asked kids and teens to talk about grief in their own words. This compilation episode includes clips from children and teens reflecting on their people who died, their varied responses to loss, and what they hope grief will feel like in future. Thank you to all the children and teens who contributed to this episode - and to their parents and caregi...
Losing Them More Than Once - When Your Ex Dies 18.10.2024 49:03
No one is perfect and no one is just one story, but how do you grieve when the person who died was so different than the person you fell in love with? When Jenn met and fell in love with Jesse, she never imagined their relationship would unravel due to his struggles with mental health and alcohol use disorder. Jesse died in 2020 and Jenn's been left to reconcile the man she loved with the one she...
"We Never Talked About Her Again" - Susan Lieu & The Manicurist's Daughter 14.10.2024 52:52
Susan Lieu , is a Vietnamese-American author, playwright, and performer. When Susan was 11 years old, her mother died from a routine plastic surgery. After she died, Susan's family stopped talking about her mother, leaving Susan on her own to figure out what happened and how to feel. Susan's debut memoir, The Manicurist's Daughter , recounts her quest to get to know her mother, avenge her death, a...
Grieving The Relationship We Didn't Get To Have - Maegan Parker Brooks, PhD 02.10.2024 49:12
It's our 300th episode and this conversation with Maegan Parker Brooks, PhD, is the perfect one to honor that milestone. Maegan is an Associate Professor at Willamette University and a volunteer at Dougy Center where she facilitates a peer grief support group for adult caregivers of teens who are grieving. Maegan is also a daughter and sister, grieving the deaths of her father, her sister Emily, a...
Is This Normal? Getting To Know Grief With Kendra Rinaldi 19.09.2024 55:27
Kendra Rinaldi knows a lot about grief. When she was just 21, her sister died in a car accident. Ten years later she had a miscarriage. Ten years after that, her mother died of cancer. Professionally, she is a grief guide and host of the Grief, Gratitude, and the Gray In Between podcast. But she didn't always get grief. When she was 21, she didn't realize that everything she was thinking, feeling,...
Building A World Worth Living In - Trends In Suicide Prevention & Postvention 06.09.2024 1:01:01
It might be better to ask Canada Taylor what she doesn't do in the realm of suicide prevention, postvention, and grief support rather than what she does because she seems to do just about everything and anything. This is part two of our conversation with her, so if you missed the first, Ep. 297: Honoring A Great Love , be sure to listen. In this episode, we talk about the holistic approach she ta...
Honoring A Great Love - Canada Taylor 30.08.2024 55:12
Twelve years ago today - August 30th - Canada Taylor was having an amazing night. She and her husband Rick were sitting outside, talking about life and work and dreams for the future - their future. Then everything changed. Rick had a medical event, and Canada became his first responder . H ours later, she became his widow. In the twelve years since, things continued to change. Canada's two sons g...
My Long-Term Relationship With Grief - Barri Leiner Grant & The Memory Circle 08.08.2024 50:03
When Barri Leiner Grant was 28, her mother Ellen died suddenly. Barri was hit with intense grief, but back then the expectation was to hurry up and get back to work and life. She didn't have the time, space, or tools to acknowledge and attend to grief. Over the past 31 years, Barri and her grief have gotten to know each other on a deep level. I n this long-term relationship, she's learned that he...
108 Ways To Survive Grief - Sweta Vikram 17.07.2024 40:20
In May of 2023, Sweta Vikram was overwhelmed with grief. In the span of three days, her father died, her father-in-law died, and it was the 9-year ann iversary of her mother's death. When she looked for information on how to survive the maelstrom of emotions, she found reassurances that she would eventually get to the other side, but nothing that showed her how to do that. So, Sweta set out to c...
Embodied Practices For Tending Grief - Camille Sapara Barton 11.07.2024 37:56
Camille Sapara Barton is a social imagineer who is reimagining how we define and relate to grief. As a writer, artist, and somatic practitioner, Camille is looking to create a new grief narrative expansive enough to include multiple forms of individual and collective grief, especially for queer, trans, and BIPOC communities. In Camille's book, Tending Grief , they offer rituals and embodied practi...
Is There A Cure For Grief? - Cody Delistraty 26.06.2024 42:36
Cody Delistraty is a journalist and he's also a son whose mother died of cancer. These two identities intersect in his new book, The Grief Cure , which chronicles his quest to find a way to eliminate the pain of grief. After exploring Laughter Therapy, silent meditation, Breakup Bootcamp, and other avenues for grief expression, Cody landed where so many others do: realizing the "cure" for grief is...
The Ripple Effect Of Loss In Portland's Black Community - Sharice Burnett, LCSW 19.06.2024 47:17
It's impossible to speak for an entire community, especially when it comes to grief, but Sharice Burnett, LCSW , knows a lot about the ripple effect of loss in the Black and African American community in Portland, OR. Born and raised in the community, Sharice is a clinical mental health therapist and consultant dedicated to naming and dismantling the larger systemic barriers that stand in the way...
How To Stop Shoulding Yourself - Lisa Keefauver & Grief Is A Sneaky Bitch 07.06.2024 47:23
Lisa Keefauver is a lot of things - she's a writer, speaker, educator, social worker, podcast host, mother, widow, and grief activist. She came to the last two titles when her personal experience of grieving for her husband Eric, who died of a brain tumor in 2011, intersected with her professional life as a clinician. At this intersection, Lisa realized just how grief illiterate the world is and h...
Autism & Grief 31.05.2024 34:47
The Autism & Grief Project is a new online platform designed to help adults with autism navigate and cope with the complexities of grief arising from both death and non-death losses. Alex LaMorie, A.A.S is a member of the project's Advisory Board and brings his lived experience with both autism and grief to this work. Dr. Kenneth J. Doka, PhD, MDiv , brings years of both professional and personal...
The Intimacy Of Friendship - Lissa Soep & Other People's Words 28.05.2024 37:51
Have you ever heard someone's voice in your head and suddenly you're transported to a time and place when you were with them? This phenomenon is what Lissa Soep explores in Other People's Words: Friendship, Loss, and the Conversations That Never End , her book about the intimacy of friendship and how words and language keep people with us, even after they die. After the deaths of her friends, Jonn...
Changing The Landscape Of Grief Support For Latino Families 14.05.2024 1:00:23
Cristina Chipriano , LCSW, Dougy Center's Director of Equity & Community Outreach and Melinda Avila, MSW, CEO of OYEN Emotional Wellness Center , are committed to changing the landscape of grief support for Latino families. They bring personal and professional grief experiences to the work of ensuring that every Latino family has access to dual language grief support that honors their cultural v...
A Living Remedy - Nicole Chung 03.05.2024 48:46
We cannot separate grief from the context in which it occurs. This is true for Nicole Chung whose adopted parents died just two years apart in 2018 and 2020. The world of 2018 was very different than that of 2020. In 2018, Nicole and her mother could grieve for her father, together and in person. In 2020, Nicole was on the other side of the country, grieving for her mother in isolation during the...
Conscious Grieving - Claire Bidwell Smith, LCPC 04.04.2024 33:33
Maybe you're familiar with the phrase, "You can't go around grief, you have to go through it." Or, "You have to feel your feelings." If you're like a lot of people, you might cringe and also wonder, "What does that actually mean?" Grief isn't linear, and it's not something to get through - and yet, a lot of people appreciate having some sense of what to expect and what to do with it all. That's wh...
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