Getting Smart

Getting Smart Podcast

This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.

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Latest episode

Jul 1, 2026

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Episodes

Sharif El-Mekki on Growing Educators of Color Through Pleasure, Duty and Honor 02.02.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Sharif El-Mekki, Founder and CEO of the Center for Black Educator Development. A proud alum of Overbrook High School in Philadelphia, PA and the former principal of Mastery Charter, Shoemaker Campus, Sharif sees education as activism and teachers as civic leaders. Sharif is also the co-host of the 8 Black Hands podcast. Hi...

Charles Fadel on Education and Competencies for the Age of AI 31.01.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by Charles Fadel, Founder of  Center for Curriculum Redesign . Center for Curriculum Redesign is a leading authority on elementary and secondary outcomes and they recently published a great new book called Education for the Age of AI .  This book is one of the most thoughtful explorations of what skills humans will need to learn...

Dr. Hollie Mackey on Getting Beyond Marginality and Growing Leaders 26.01.2024

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is part of a new short monthly series where Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, a previous guest and a friend of the podcast, to speak with indigenous leaders and academics to discuss how indigenous ways of knowing and leading can, and should, shape the education system. On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Ja...

Amanda Bickerstaff on AI for Education 24.01.2024

How might we design new school models to better serve all young people? What are the skills, and jobs of tomorrow? IFTF's Foresight Essentials course is great for those looking to build something new or trying to innovate within their current role.  On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by  Amanda Bickerstaff, the Co-Founder and CEO of AI for Education . Amanda has...

Derek Wenmoth and Annette Thompson on The Agency Playbook 17.01.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen is joined by Derek Wenmoth, Founder of Futuremakers , teacher, principal, distance educator and educational policy adviser in New Zealand and internationally. He's also joined by Annette Thompson, Chief Executive Officer at Inquire Innovation and, previously, an elementary school teacher and principal for 37 years. She was named Arkansas...

America's Promise Alliance on Collective Action and Field Building 10.01.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia is joined by two individuals from America's Promise Alliance (APA), an organization that weaves people and organizations together for a positive impact. Mike O'Brien, CEO of America's Promise Alliance, and Parvathi (Parv) Santhosh -Kumar their VP of Community Impact. Together, they talk about the importance of field building, how uniquely...

Michael Matsuda on Over a Decade of Educating For Purposeful Life 03.01.2024

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a part of our New Pathways campaign . In partnership with American Student Assistance (ASA), the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Stand Together and the Walton Family Foundation, the New Pathways campaign will question education's status quo and propose new methods of giving students a chance to experience success in what's next.  On this episode of the...

Apprenticeship Pathways in Teaching and Tech 20.12.2023

On this Getting Smart Town Hall, we took a look at apprenticeship pathways and tried to answer some of the following questions: What does a modern apprenticeship system look like? How might we set up the necessary systems to create earn-and-learn opportunities in technology and teaching pathways.  We were joined by Erin Mote, InnovateEDU and Maureen Tracey Mooney, Department of Education who talke...

Alex Red Corn on How School Leaders Can Be Culturally Responsive to Indigenous Youth 15.12.2023

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is part of a new short monthly series where Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, a previous guest and a friend of the podcast, to speak with indigenous leaders and academics to discuss how indigenous ways of knowing and leading can, and should, shape the education system.   Awaachiáookaate', or Jason Cummins Ed. D is an enrolled member of the Apsaa...

Jean Eddy on Crisis-Proofing Today's Learners 13.12.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by Jean Eddy, CEO of American Student Assistance (ASA) and author of Crisis-Proofing Today's Learners: Reimagining Career Education to Prepare Kids for Tomorrow's World . Links: Crisis Proofing Today's Learners Jean Eddy American Student Assistance Cajon Valley Tacoma Washington Schools  

Taniya Mishra and Amanda Stent on Pathways to Artificial Intelligence 06.12.2023

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a part of our New Pathways campaign . In partnership with American Student Assistance (ASA), the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Stand Together and the Walton Family Foundation, the New Pathways campaign will question education's status quo and propose new methods of giving students a chance to experience success in what's next.  On this episode of the...

Shiva Rajbhandari on Hope, Green New Deal for Schools and Youth Civic Action 01.12.2023

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is brought to you by our recent publication Green Pathways, and makes the case for why ALL pathways need sustainability and green embedded. Find out more here . On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Mason Pashia is joined by Shiva Rajbhandari, a current freshman at UNC Chapel Hill and avid climate and education activist who is, to date, the first st...

Mickey Breeze and H. Bernard Hall on Hip Hop As a Lifestyle 29.11.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Victoria Andrews is joined by Producer Mickey Breeze, the 10-time Beat Battle Champion of the Twin Cities. He is also a former teacher for the "Twin Cities Mobile Jazz Project." and a DJ for the Minnesota Timberwolves and Twins. He's a proud alumni of the High School for Recording Arts in St. Paul, MN.  We're also joined by Dr. H. Bernard Hall an Assis...

Frisco ISD on Student Entrepreneurship and INCubatoredu 22.11.2023

On this episode of Getting Smart Podcast Victoria Andrews discusses student entrepreneurship with an awesome group from Frisco ISD. Tommy Thompson teaches Marketing, Entrepreneurship and Finance Classes, as well as the DECA sponsor in Frisco ISD. Before teaching he worked in the corporate world for 18 years, started his own business, and served as an industry volunteer in the INCubatoredu program...

Susan Faircloth on Reciprocity, Relationship and Responsibility in Indigenous Leadership 17.11.2023

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is part of a new short monthly series where Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, a previous guest and a friend of the podcast, to speak with indigenous leaders and academics to discuss how indigenous ways of knowing and leading can, and should, shape the education system.   In this episode, they are joined by Dr. Susan Faircloth to discuss the rela...

Chris Unger on A Revolution in Education 15.11.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast  Tom Vander Ark is joined by our friend Dr. Chris Unger, a Teaching Professor in the Graduate Programs in Education including the Doctor of Education program and author of the great new book A Revolution in Education: Scaling Agency & Opportunity for All .  Links: Viva La Revolucion Blog Post Amazon Link Season 1:  https://arevolutionineducation.buzzspr...

Support & Guidance for All New Pathways Journeys 10.11.2023

On this Getting Smart Town Hall, we took a look at our latest publication, Support & Guidance For All New Pathways Journeys and spoke with practitioners and policy experts to get an overview of the current state of advisory models in U.S. schools. Together, we highlighted some exemplars in the space and discuss how support, guidance and advisory systems are critical parts of building New Pathways...

Sharhonda Bossier and Carmita Semaan on Amplifying and Empowering Leaders of Color 08.11.2023

How might we design new school models to better serve all young people? What are the skills, and jobs of tomorrow? IFTF's Foresight Essentials course is great for those looking to build something new or trying to innovate within their current role.  On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Sharhonda Bossier, CEO of Education Leaders of Color (EdLoC) and Carmita...

Bob Schwartz on Community Colleges: America's Hidden Economic Engines 01.11.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Bob Schwartz to talk about pathways to opportunity and the role of college, specifically community colleges. Bob's new book is America's Hidden Economic Engines: How Community Colleges Can Drive Shared Prosperity , which argues that community colleges need to be in the center of any national education and skills strategy. "A...

Ben Wildavsky on The Career Arts - Answering Big Questions About College and Career 25.10.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by Ben Wildavsky to discuss his new book The Career Arts: Answering Big Questions About College and Career . This book makes the case for building career success through broad education, targeted skills, and social capital. Ben is also a visiting scholar at UVA and hosts the Higher Ed Spotlight podcast. Links: Amazon Link Linked...

Dr. Robin Zape-tah-hol-ah Starr Minthorn on Indigenizing the Academy 20.10.2023

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is part of a new short monthly series where Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, a previous guest and a friend of the podcast, to speak with indigenous leaders and academics to discuss how indigenous ways of knowing and leading can, and should, shape the education system.   Awaachiáookaate', or Jason Cummins Ed. D is an enrolled member of the Apsaa...

Elliot Washor on How Real-World Learning Transforms Education 18.10.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Elliot Washor, the co-founder of Big Picture Learning and author of the great new book  Learning to Leave: How Real-World Learning Transforms Education . This book is the followup to the great Leaving to Learn: How Out-of-School Learning Increases Student Engagement and Reduces Dropout Rates . Elliot is also the co-founder o...

Kim Smith on Recalibrating Innovation and Next Steps for Educators 11.10.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by repeat guest Kim Smith to discuss a landscape analysis, the rise of learner-centered education and the three horizons.  Kim is the founder of  LearnerStudio , a nonprofit intermediary accelerating progress towards a flexible, rigorous, equitable, and learner-centered education system, to ensure all our young people are inspir...

Town Hall on Agriculture Technology Pathways 06.10.2023

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a recording of the latest Getting Smart Town Hall — Agriculture Technology Pathways. On this episode, we heard from a great panel of guests who are running a wide range of programs to help young people connect with the growing field of agriculture technology.  Links: Town Hall Recap Video Link Links  

Justin Reich on Iterate The Secret to Innovation in Schools 04.10.2023

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr. Justin Reich, ED of MIT Teaching Systems Lab , host of the Teach Lab Podcast and author of Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in Schools. On this episode, they discuss the two paths to coherence: Invitational Leadership: inviting people into a shared vision Transformational Leadership: As Dr. Reich says, this is "Bringing...

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