Getting Smart

Getting Smart Podcast

This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.

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Jul 1, 2026

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Episodes

Yu-Ling Cheng on Remake Learning Days 10.05.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by Yu-Ling Cheng ,Co-Producer of Remake Learning Days and Director of Kidsburgh and Parents as Allies , (Kidsburgh operates as a project of Grantmakers of Western PA ). Remake Learning Days is one of the world's largest festival of hands-on learning where parents and caregivers learn alongside their kids. The festival began in 2...

Jennifer Mellor and Mike Huckins on How Chambers of Commerce Can Get Involved in Accelerated Pathways 08.05.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Jennifer Mellor, Chief Innovation Officer at the Phoenix Chamber Foundation and Mike Huckins, Senior Vice President of Public Affairs and IT Operations at the Greater Phoenix Chamber. Together, Jennifer and Mike are working on ElevateEdAZ, a remarkable initiative by the Arizona design team that's revolutionizing education...

Dr. Lesley-Ann Noel on Designing Social Change 03.05.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by, Dr. Lesley-Ann Noel, a professor at North Carolina State University. Lesley-Ann is also author of Design Social Change , a new book from Stanford's d. School run featuring past guests Sam Seidel and Olatunde Sobomehin on Creative Hustle and Sarah Stein Greenberg on Creative Acts for Curious People. Just the other day we ran...

Getting Smart and the d.school: Live from SXSW 01.05.2024

This special episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a live broadcast of a conversation between Tom Vander Ark and authors from the Stanford d.school. Together they discuss four new books that speak to important aspects of this work. This conversation features Sam Seidel and Olatunde Sobomehin of Creative Hustle, Dr. Leticia Britos Cavagnaro of Experiments in Reflection, and Grace Hawthorne of Mak...

Stacy Wall Schweikhart and Dr. Thomas Lasley on Learn to Earn Dayton 24.04.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Stacy Wall Schweikhart, CEO of Learn to Earn Dayton. Stacy brings more than 21 years of public sector leadership and a deep network of partners and resources to the CEO role.  We're also joined by Dr. Thomas Lasley, Director of Policy and Advocacy, Montgomery County Educational Service Center and Founder of Learn to Earn D...

Nell Rosenberg on Access and Teleservices Programs 17.04.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Rebecca Midles is joined by Nell Rosenberg, National Director of Teleservices at Clarke Schools for Hearing & Speech. Links: LinkedIn Clarke School for Hearing and Speech tVisit Teleservices Program National Center for Hearing Assessment and Management,  

Julian Guerrero on Pathways and Programs for Indigenous Youth 12.04.2024

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is part of a new short monthly series where Mason Pashia is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, a previous guest and a friend of the podcast, to speak with indigenous leaders and academics to discuss how indigenous ways of knowing and leading can, and should, shape the education system.   In this episode, they are joined by Julian Guerrero Jr., the current Direct...

Cynthia Leck and Juetzinia Kazmer-Murillo on Igniting Agency in Early Learners 10.04.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Rebecca Midles is joined by two members of the Transcend Usable Knowledge team —Cynthia Leck, and Juetzinia Kazmer-Murillo, to discuss their new report Igniting Agency in Early Learners . Links: Igniting Agency in Early Learners Cynthia Leck Cynthia Leck LinkedIn Juetzinia Kazmer-Murillo Juetzinia Kazmer-Murillo LinkedIn Transcend Transform Learning wit...

Timothy Jones and Mason Pashia on What Education Can Learn From Poetry 05.04.2024

On this special episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, producer Mason Pashia is joined by Timothy Jones. In honor of Poetry Month, Timothy and Mason discuss their deep appreciation and practice of the intersection and language.  Timothy is a long-time educator, coach, mentor and someone who lives and breathes hip-hop. Timothy is the Chief Visionary Officer at #HipHopEd, a digitally-birthed organiza...

Sydney Schaef on The Future9 Competencies 03.04.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Rebecca Midles is joined by Sydney Schaef, Managing Director at reDesign, a nationally recognized, women-led education design lab committed to ensuring every young person is future-ready. reDesign recently released the Future9 competencies, 34 skills across a six-level designed progression. The framework draws on more than a decade of collaboration with...

Getting Smart on Minnesota School Visits 29.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark and Shawnee Caruthers talk about a recent set of school visits in Minnesota as a part of an ongoing series of Real World Learning field trips.   The Minneapolis-St. Paul metropolitan area is a thriving community of nearly 3 million people. Made up of 7 counties, 182 communities and 2 medium-sized, diverse urban districts (36k and 33k). A...

Omaha Taskforce on Driving Regional Work-Based Change 27.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Todd Smith, a New Pathways Fellow, founder and CEO of Symphony Workforce and former podcast guest hosts a conversation about an exciting initiative underway in Nebraska. These guests represent the Omaha Taskforce. Joseph Murray, Jesuit Academy . Osuman O. Issaka, Simple Foundation . Links:  Todd Smith Osuman O. Issaka Joseph Murray Symphony Workforce To...

Ryan Lufkin on Instructure, Acquisition and The Future of Credentialing 20.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Ryan Lufkin , VP of Academic Strategy at Instructure .   Links: Ryan Lufkin LinkedIn Instructure Portfolium Canvas Credentials Parchment End of last year release - stratification

Erika Giampietro and Destiny Egbuta on the Massachusetts Early College Promise 13.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Erika Giampietro, Executive Director at the Massachusetts Alliance for Early College. Erika recently led a design team as a part of the Accelerate ED initiative, supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Accelerate ED is built on the idea that high schools can provide early access to quality higher education in way...

Dallas School Visits Podcast 08.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Shawnee Caruthers and Tom Vander Ark discuss a recent set of school visits in Dallas, Texas. These schools do an incredible job of showcasing dual enrollment, pathway management, business partnerships and building culture in their schools.  These schools create radical new pathways to economic mobility and cultures of possibility. Links: BigThought The...

Kwaku Aning, Aaron Schorn and Mike Yates on Collective Learning, Research and Demonstrating 06.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Mason is joined by repeat guest Aaron Schorn of Unrulr and two new guests for the Getting Smart Podcast, Kwaku Aning, Director of the Center of Innovation and Entrepreneurial Thinking at the San Diego Jewish Academy and Mike Yates, The Reinvention Lab at Teach for America.  Links: Kwaku Aning LinkedIn Aaron Schorn LinkedIn Mike Yates LinkedIn San Diego...

New Pathways Design Principle: Equitable 01.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee is joined by New Pathways Senior Fellow Timothy Jones to discuss one of our New Pathways Design Principles: Equitable.  When designing pathways, they must "provide equitable accessible, meaningful accommodation and support the development of social capital needed to access opportunity.   Links: New Pathways View All Design Principles Episodes  

New Pathways Design Principle: Curated 01.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee is joined by New Pathways Senior Fellow Timothy Jones to discuss one of our New Pathways Design Principles: Curated.  When designing pathways, they must be "meaningful sequences of learning experiences linked to opportunity. The result in experiencing success in what's next: real work experience, college credit, and industry-recognized credenti...

New Pathways Design Principle: Intentional 01.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee is joined by New Pathways Senior Fellow Timothy Jones to discuss one of our New Pathways Design Principles: Intentional.  When designing pathways, ensure that they are "co-authored experiences and journeys with personalized and localized guidance and support."     Links: New Pathways View All Design Principles Episodes  

New Pathways Design Principle: Purposeful 01.03.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers is joined by New Pathways Senior Fellow Timothy Jones to discuss one of our New Pathways Design Principles: Purposeful. When designing pathways, they must "help learners identify strengths and interests and match them with possible futures. With a growing sense of purpose, learners spot opportunities and develop an entrepreneurial min...

Michael Gonzalez on Rural Innovation Zones and CTE 28.02.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Michael Gonzalez, Executive Director of Rural Schools Innovation Zone, a first-of-its-kind partnership made up of five school districts and five institutions of higher education in South Texas that, like our New Pathways campaign, help students find success in what's next.  Links: Rural Schools Innovation Zone Michael Gonz...

Lydia Logan on Green Jobs and IBM SkillsBuild 21.02.2024

Join your community March 4-7 in Austin, Texas for SXSW EDU 2024 to help create a new tomorrow for learners everywhere! Go to sxswedu.com/attend/ to learn more. On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Lydia Logan , Vice President, Global Education and Workforce Development, Corporate Social Responsibility at IBM.  Together, Lydia and Tom talk about the credentiali...

Josh Schachter on The Power of Participatory Storytelling 14.02.2024

Join your community March 4-7 in Austin, Texas for SXSW EDU 2024 to help create a new tomorrow for learners everywhere! Go to sxswedu.com/attend/ to learn more. On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia is joined by Josh Schachter, Founder of CommunityShare and long-time storyteller of environment and community. CommunityShare is a platform that connects young people to local oppo...

Unfulfilled Promise: The Forty-Year Shift from Print to Digital and Why It Failed to Transform Learning 09.02.2024

This episode is an overview of a recent contribution to a publication from the Hoover Institute written by Tom Vander Ark. This publication takes a look at the shift from print to digital in light of the 40th anniversary of A Nation At Risk. This era marked a shift from information scarcity to abundance, a shift from searching to sorting. It changed what, how, and where people learn, and not alway...

Rachna Mathur and Meg Grothman on Integrating AI in the Classroom 07.02.2024

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Nate McClennen is joined by Rachna Mathur, Senior STEM Strategist, CEO/Founder of Stemology Club and Meg Grothman, Director of Arizona Impact and Mathematics Innovation at ASU Prep. We have worked with ASU Prep and ASU over the years, and they both continue to live up to their reputation as innovative organizations that are inclusive rather than exclusi...

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