Get More MSP Leads with Laura Johns | Predictable Revenue for MSPs

Brian Strong scaled Ten Hats from $2M to $19M in five years. His team now closes over 50% of deals without him in the room. Here is what he changed. Your MSP sales rep is not the problem. Your process is. If you built your sales process around how you close deals as the founder, no rep will ever replicate it. This episode is the one to send your sales team. IN THIS EPISODE: Why MSP sales reps keep...

If you're still the one holding everything together at your MSP, that's not a leadership problem. It's a structure problem. In this episode Laura introduces Lydia Walker, the new COO of The Business Growers, and they talk through what it actually takes to scale an MSP past the point where the founder is the glue. Lydia spent 20 years inside telecom and MSP operations, including scaling Altaworx fr...

Join us on this episode of Get More MSP Leads (formerly the Know, Grow, Scale podcast) as Laura Johns sits down with Aaron Garcia, former MSP COO turned EOS Implementer, to talk about what it really takes to scale an MSP without burning out. With over 17 years in the MSP space, Aaron has lived the late nights, the ticket overload, the people challenges, and the constant pressure that founders face...

In this episode of the Know Grow Scale podcast, Laura Johns, founder and CEO of the Business Growers, discusses the importance of MSPs mastering a vertical or niche to transform their pipeline and improve sales conversions. She touches on the common fears MSPs have about limiting themselves and provides practical steps for successfully specializing in a vertical. Laura explains key elements requir...

Join us in this episode of the Know, Grow, Scale podcast as Laura Johns sits down with Matt Layne, President of Managed Services at Scipio Technologies. Discover the journey behind their rebranding, the strategic mergers and acquisitions, and how they consolidated multiple entities under the new name Scipio Technologies. Learn about their approach to managed services, security, and the emerging ro...

In this episode of the Know Grow Scale podcast, Laura Johns, founder and CEO of The Business Growers, interviews Matt Yesbeck of MSPX about innovative solutions for MSP growth. Matt introduces MSPX, the first unified marketplace for buying and selling managed services contracts, and shares the company's origin story and unique value propositions, including its Client Compass portfolio optimizer to...

In this episode, Laura Johns sits down with Gadalia O'Bryan, founder and CEO of Dapple Security, an early-stage cybersecurity startup reshaping how businesses log in securely. With a bold mission to eliminate passwords and a channel-first model that empowers MSPs, Gadalia is leading the charge toward more human-centered digital security. Laura and Gadalia explore her unique journey from mathematic...

In this episode, Laura Johns sits down with father and son team Sam and Mikey Levine from  National Communications Group (NCG)  to unpack how they've built one of the most trusted telecom solutions practices by staying ahead of technology shifts and forging strong partnerships, especially with AT&T.   From the early days of frame relay to today's SD-WAN, cloud voice, and 5G evolution, NCG's story...

  In this episode of the Know Grow Scale podcast, Laura Johns talks with Jill Munsterman, President of IParigon, a woman‑owned VoIP and Unified Communications provider that's changing the rules in telecom.   Jill has been in telecommunications for 20 years. She's built IParigon around three pillars: reliability, clear support, and flexibility— no long‑term contracts . If you work in MSPs, telecom,...

Laura Johns attended ScaleCon 2025 in New Orleans, and it did not disappoint. Between the energy of the city and the insights from MSP sales and marketing leaders, she came away with five practical takeaways that every MSP can learn from. In this episode, Laura shares what stood out most from the event and how MSPs can apply these lessons to strengthen their marketing, improve client relationships...

What does it take to grow a cybersecurity firm that big companies actually trust?   In this episode, Laura Johns talks with Kyle Hillman, CRO at Open Security, an offensive cybersecurity company led by a team of former military operators. They've moved from subcontracting on pentests to directly serving some of the biggest names in tech and finance.   Kyle breaks down what's working, what's broken...

What's your MSP actually worth — and what would make someone want to buy it? In this candid episode of the Know Grow Scale podcast, Laura Johns sits down with Jay Dixon, Founder of Criterion Consulting, to dig into the hard truths MSP owners face when building a business someone actually wants to buy. Jay's leadership provided him a sharp lens into the mistakes MSPs make that kill their valuation,...

In this episode of the Know Grow Scale podcast, Laura Johns sits down with Jim Gernatt, CEO and co-founder of Netverge, to explore how his company is transforming the way MSPs manage networks, systems, and alerts. Netverge was born out of real operational challenges, like excessive alerts, project delays, and time-consuming troubleshooting. Rather than adding another tool to the tech stack, Netver...

The countdown is on for Rev.io's Client Summit, and we've got the inside scoop! In this episode, Laura Johns chats with Usman Zahoor, VP of Channel & Community, about what you can expect in Atlanta this September (10-12, 2025). We talk all about the sales and marketing workshop where our own CEO, Laura Johns, will be leading a workshop on how to grow your MSP into a lead machine. From the launch o...

Talking about automation with your MSP team can feel overwhelming or even a little threatening. You know it will save time. You know it will boost profit. But the minute you bring it up, people assume it's about replacing jobs or overhauling everything at once.   In this episode of Know, Grow, Scale, host Laura Johns, founder of The Business Growers, shows MSP owners how to make automation a no br...

Let's be honest. Selling cybersecurity to small business clients can feel awkward. You know they need it. You know they're vulnerable. But the minute you bring it up, they think you're just trying to upsell them on some overpriced "maybe" service. In this episode of Know, Grow, Scale , host Laura Johns, founder of The Business Growers, breaks down how to change that. Why clients don't see the valu...

If you're an MSP owner who's ever thought, "We need more leads, but I don't have time to figure out what's working," this episode of Know Grow Scale is for you.   Host Laura Johns gets real about why most MSPs struggle with marketing—and how trying to DIY it, outsource it, or explain your business to someone who doesn't "get" tech just leads to frustration and wasted time. Sound familiar?   In thi...

In this episode, Laura sits down with Mark Loveys, CEO of Datagate, to talk about something most MSPs don't think about until it becomes a problem — billing. Mark shares how Datagate makes telecom billing easier by integrating directly with the tools MSPs already use. The goal is simple. Help MSPs bill everything in one place, under their own brand, and eliminate the back-office headaches that slo...

Welcome to another episode of The Know, Grow, Scale Podcast with your host, Laura Johns, founder and CEO of The Business Growers. Whether you're just getting started or scaling an established business, this episode brings you three practical, experience-driven tips that every entrepreneur needs in 2025. From defining what your business stands for to building the right team and finding your niche,...

Welcome back to Know, Grow, Scale, the podcast for MSPs and tech leaders who want to cut through the noise, grow faster, and scale smarter. In this episode, host Laura Johns exposes one of the most damaging myths in marketing — the belief that marketing is only about lead generation. Here's the truth. Old-school advice like "build a great website and the leads will come" doesn't work anymore. If y...

Running an MSP means wearing a lot of hats: tech expert, problem solver, business strategist. But here's the big question. Is your marketing keeping up with the pace you're setting? In this episode of Know Grow Scale , Laura Johns takes a hard look at what it really means for your marketing to "work hard," and how to tell if yours is slacking. From tracking the right metrics and optimizing your vi...

In this episode, Laura Johns explores one of the biggest challenges in the cybersecurity space: marketing technical solutions to business decision-makers. If you're a cybersecurity provider or MSP, you know it's not enough to have a great product. You need a strategy that builds trust, guides prospects through the buyer's journey, and ultimately drives revenue. Learn how to align your marketing fu...

Are you struggling to generate consistent leads for your MSP? Many IT business owners feel stuck, unsure of the next move to drive real growth. In this episode of Know, Grow, Scale, I'll break down a 90-day marketing strategy designed to deliver fast, measurable results. Marketing doesn't have to be complicated, but many MSP owners waste time on strategies that don't work. In this episode, I'll ou...

Is your MSP leaving money on the table? In this episode of the Know, Grow, Scale Podcast, Laura Johns analyzes 100 lost proposals to reveal the shocking reasons why MSPs lose deals. Discover the critical mistakes that cost MSPs thousands in lost revenue. Laura breaks down common pitfalls in proposals, pricing, and presentations, giving you the insights to win more deals and boost your bottom line....

Is your MSP struggling to build a consistent sales pipeline without a dedicated sales team? This episode of the Know, Grow, Scale Podcast with Laura Johns explores effective strategies for generating leads and closing deals, even without SDRs. Laura Johns, Founder and CEO of The Business Growers, shares her proven framework for building a predictable sales pipeline specifically for small MSPs. Lea...