Get a Job with Andrew and Riley

Episode 7 picks the story back up five months after Riley and Andrew last hit record, and the update is not the one anyone was hoping for. What felt like an imminent job offer in August suddenly stalled when a church pressed pause on the process, sending Riley back to square one in the middle of an already exhausting ministry transition.  Andrew and Riley talk honestly about what it feels like whe...

In Episode 6 of Get a Job with Andrew and Riley, the conversation turns to one of the strangest parts of a ministry job search, navigating multiple church conversations at the same time. Riley shares what it feels like to be in several different interview processes at once, each moving at its own pace, asking similar questions, and creating the challenge of remembering who said what, when, and whe...

In Episode 5 of Get a Job with Andrew and Riley, the conversation moves from job boards and search firms into the part everybody dreads, the application process. Riley shares what it has been like to submit around 20 applications, each with its own maze of cover letters, questionnaires, sermon links, philosophy statements, and church-specific hoops. Andrew and Riley talk about the strange reality...

In Episode 4 of  Get a Job with Andrew and Riley , the search gets real. Riley walks through where he’s actually looking for ministry roles—from denominational job boards to search firms like Vanderbloemen, Slingshot, and Chemistry Staffing. Along the way, we talk about the pros and cons of each, how much work falls on the candidate, and why networking still matters more than you think.  We also d...

In Episode 3 of  Get a Job with Andrew and Riley , the job search officially begins. Riley walks through the first real step of any transition: building a resume—and all the awkwardness that comes with it. From deciding what to include (and what to leave out), to navigating how to describe a complicated current role, this episode dives into the tension of presenting your story with both honesty an...

In Episode 2 of  Get a Job with Andrew and Riley , we move from recognizing it’s time to leave to figuring out how to explain it. Riley shares what it looks like to talk honestly about a complicated ministry transition—one without burnout, moral failure, or a clean exit. From interviews to networking conversations, clarity and honesty become essential, even when the story feels messy.  We also exp...

In this debut episode of Get a Job with Andrew and Riley , we step into the uncomfortable reality of ministry transition. Riley shares his story of moving from a thriving role into a campus pastor position that didn’t turn out as expected—and what it’s like to be “released without being released.” Together, we talk about recognizing when a role is no longer sustainable, staying faithful when the f...