Jonathan Tan
Generations (Talking 'bout My Sports...)
A Boomer, a Gen Xer, and a Millennial walk into a podcast — and nobody agrees on anything. Steve was there. Jonathan has the stats. Mark has the East Coast take. Together they cover basketball, baseball, football, and hockey across three completely different eras of fandom. Real memories, real arguments, real numbers — from Muhammad Ali to Barry Bonds to Wayne Gretzky to the Raiders' 40 years of heartbreak. No hot takes. No corporate sponsors. Just three generations telling it straight. New episodes every Saturday. Now on YouTube.
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Jonathan Tan
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Jul 4, 2026
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Episodes
S1 E25 - Steve still hates owners and says he won't pay for NFL games. When did the NFL become a big business? 23.12.2023 58:06
Spawned from last week's discussion was the question of when was the transition of the NFL becoming the number one sport in America and how did it become such a money making machine. We discuss how what was a hobby for many owners became a generational wealth machine and discuss some of the key things that created it. Steve still hates owners and says he won't pay to watch NFL games....Um,...
S1 E24 - The Advent of Color Commentating and Changes over Generations 16.12.2023 1:01:31
Steve and discuss the dawn of the color commentator. Steve brings up the beginning of the new age of color broadcasters, starting with Dandy Don Meredith. We discuss some of our favorites and how the position has changed from the rah-rah light-hearted announcer to the X's and O's and data-driven color commentator. Again, Steve rejects more information and knowledge and I chide him about it...
S1 E23 - Player Longevity over the Generations 09.12.2023 56:53
Steve and I discuss longevity over the generations. We discuss both the superstars with long careers and marvel at the average guys who were able to play a long time. We discuss what is takes to last a long time and reminisce about different players and their careers. We talk about Ali, Jim brown, Dave Parker, Jerry Reuss, Kevin Willis, George Brett, Brady, Nolan Ryan, and others.
S1 E22 - One Hit Wonders (Music) + Short Flashes of Greatness & I submit a player for examination with a dud. 02.12.2023 54:57
Steve and I discuss the concept of "One-hit wonders" for music. Steve is a big 1960s music fan and loves the single-hit artists and songs. We discuss how this applies to sports across the generations. I submit a Hall of Famer as an example of where myth and legend may be greater than his actual career. I offer just a couple of examples of how he shined bright, but not as good as people t...
S1 E21: **Special Guest** + Beef with Refs. Is Scott Foster corrupt? 25.11.2023 1:05:08
Finally, we have the 3rd kind of heat on the show. We are joined by a young Millennial/ Old Gen Z'er. You get to hear what the younger peoples think. They are reading Reddit and watching TikToks of refs and umpires blowing calls. The younger generation believes there is more to the Tim Donaghy story and it embroils Scott Foster. Our Guest explains the beef between Scott Foster and Chris Paul....
S1 E20 - Bust or Nah? High expectation players over the Generations 18.11.2023 58:46
Steve and I discuss players that came with high expectations when drafted in their respective sport. Names such as: Jim Plunkett, LaRue Martin, Peyton Manning, Todd Marinovich, JaMarcus Russell, Tony Mandarich, Ryan Leaf, Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are discussed. Michael Jordan, arguably the greatest professional basketball player of all time and brand mogul. Is he to blame for Kwame Brown?
Extra Time: Draymond and naked choke hold. DeShaun is out for the year. More on Leadership. Yes, again. 17.11.2023 39:12
No Immaculate Grid, but: How can I not talk about leadership again with the news of Draymond Green going no-holds barred on Rudy Gobert and year 2 of the Deshaun Watson experiment going up in flames? I discuss the differing styles of leadership and between the Warriors and Browns. Is there a difference? I discuss risk and business. What is risk and how does one mitigate. More ranting on poor leade...
S1 E19 - Coaches over the Generations 11.11.2023 56:20
Steve and I discuss the different coaches across our respective sports fandom. Could the old school 1960s coaches like Bear Bryant and Vince Lombardi work today? I tell a story about someone I know that played for Bear Bryant and was a high school teammate of Rollie Fingers in the Inland Empire back in the 1960s. I stump for Tom Flores and Steve reflects on the likes of Lasorda, Wooden, Lenny Wilk...
Extra Time: Leadership, Sports, Business, and Success 09.11.2023 35:44
The Raiders were inspired last week. Winning can cure a lot of ills within your culture. The Raiders were not winning. It broke. The pinnacle of sports, work, and in life is winning and having fun. Next, is winning (presumably). Most would rather have fun and less success. Not being successful and not having fun, is the worst. The AFC playoff picture is a mess. It's possible that 12 teams will...
S1 E18 - Our favorite Nicknames over the Generations 04.11.2023 1:00:39
Steve and I wax nostalgic about some of our favorite nicknames. Steve contends many of the nicknames were contrived and created by writers to have something to write about and to give life to some players. We discuss good nicknames and the bad. Steve not a fan of the initial nicknames and does not consider them really nicknames. I talk about my guy, The Thrill - Will Clark. Hear about: Slim Reaper...
Extra Time: Dia de los Muertos Raiders - What, no Immaculate Grid!?! 02.11.2023 30:22
Finally, the Raiders have fired McDaniels and Ziegler. Switching up Extra Time show for near future. Immaculate Grid seems to have fallen off now that Baseball is almost done. Texas and Bruce Bochy might win tonight and take the 4th ring for Boch. I give insights into legacy Raiders and the lost mystique. How the last 40 years have had fleeting success and whenever they did, it was always tentativ...
S1 E17 - Our Favorite Players and Teams over the Generations 28.10.2023 59:42
Figured it was time for something lighter. Everyone thinks things from their childhood is Old School. When your friend is a generation older than you, their Old School is Crusty! Steve and I reminisce about our favorite players and teams over our respective lifetimes. We talk about players we liked even though we barely saw them play. Mostly because of myth and lore. We Preview our listener apprec...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 27 October 2023 - Grid 208 28.10.2023 18:12
Show Highlights: New columns: 10+ wins in a season. Are there archetypes in baseball? Glenn Braggs, is he a version of a guy? Is he a not as good version of Rob Deer? Dave Kingman? Adam Dunn? Closer to Chris Davis? Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn how I come up with my picks–if I...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 28 October 2023 - Grid 209 28.10.2023 18:26
Show Highlights: New column: 40+ WAR. I love it! A great shame today. I could have completed the grid with all Giants and was not able to off the cuff. My friend Tony not only did it, but with a scarcity score of 3. Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn how I come up with my picks–if...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 26 October 2023 - Grid 207 27.10.2023 14:53
Show Highlights: Two new columns: 6+ WAR in a season and players that played in the Negro Leagues. Still can't get over how fast Fernando-Mania came and went. Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn how I come up with my picks–if I had to get an assist or if I flat out looked it up....
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 25 October 2023 - Grid 206 27.10.2023 16:05
Show Highlights: Two new columns: 30+ homeruns in a season and 300+ homeruns in a career. Another Will Clark sighting. Will can help you with: 30+ homerun in as seaon (SF), 40+ doubles (TX), AS, GG, SS, Giants, Rangers, Orioles, Cardinals, 2,000+ hits, and a season >.300 average. Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:0...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 24 October 2023 - Grid 205 24.10.2023 28:35
Show Highlights: A new column! 2000+ Strikeouts in a career. I finally use Bo Jackson for a square and tell my story about meeting Bo and talking about his greatest run in the NFL. Yep, that one. Where he runs over Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater. Bo daps me up! Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no s...
S1 E16: Sports & Social Justice - **Correct version without technical issues** 23.10.2023 57:50
People use the term Woke. It is used to immediately politically charge an argument and shut down any rational discussion or thought. Throughout Steve's and my lifetime, many athletes have used their respective platforms to speak out. Many did not. Many did their activism behind the scenes and not in the public eye. We discuss several of the events that started back in the 1930's and the wa...
S1 E16: Sports and Social Justice - **Do Not Use technical issues** 23.10.2023 1:14:12
People use the term Woke. It is used to immediately politically charge an argument and shut down any rational discussion or thought. Throughout Steve's and my lifetime, many athletes have used their respective platforms to speak out. Many did not. Many did their activism behind the scenes and not in the public eye. We discuss several of the events that started back in the 1930's and the wa...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 23 October 2023 - Grid 204 23.10.2023 21:43
Show Highlights: We've had new columns since last Thursday. Thumbs up for all of them...until today. Players not born in the U.S.? And, you have to say not in the 50 states and DC, meaning PR is ok? Kinda suggesting people from Puerto Rico are not citizens. I know not malicious, but no one was asking for this column. Let's retire it. Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and ho...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 22 October 2023 - Grid 203 23.10.2023 22:24
Show Highlights: Another new Column: 2,000+ hits. Options increase from 33 (total players with more than 3,000 hits) to 200 possibilities. I rant about how baseball GM's used to be dumb as rocks using the Lee May for Joe Morgan trade bundle. Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn h...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 21 October 2023 - Grid 202 22.10.2023 21:40
Show Highlights: (3) New columns! 100+ Runs, 30+ Homeruns, and 40+ Doubles. I ask, should we keep doing Baseball? Do we need to switch to Football? The LCS is still going and heating up. Both series are competitive. Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn how I come up with my picks–if...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 20 October 2023 - Grid 201 21.10.2023 17:58
Show Highlights: Two new columns! ERA less than 3.00 and Single Team. I rant about how the Giants are terrible at finding and paying free agent closers. I name names! Jose Mesa...ugh Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn how I come up with my picks–if I had to get an assist or if I fl...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 19 October 2023 - Grid 200 20.10.2023 12:45
Show Highlights: A new Column! 200+ Wins in a career. Andy Messersmith and Phil Niekro - Jobbed! Follow along as I reveal my daily Immaculate Grid and how I got there. I will post my results each evening after 9:00 PM PT to ensure no spoilers. Learn how I come up with my picks–if I had to get an assist or if I flat out looked it up. I use the game for fun and to connect with old friends. Share y...
Extra Time: Immaculate Grid - 18 October 2023 - Grid 199 19.10.2023 22:52
Show Highlights: Nolan Ryan was traded with 3 others for Jim Fregosi. Seriously. The 1997 Angels threw everyone and everything to try and win the West. Eddie Murray (41), Rickey (38), Tony Phillips (38), Chad Kreuter (32), Jim Leyrtiz (33), Dennis Springer (32), Chuck Finley (34), Ken Hill (31), Mark Langston (36), Kevin Gross (36), Mark Gubicza (34), and more. All were on the downside of their re...
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