Bea Gonzalez & Jay Redelsperger

Gatherings

Arts EN ↓ 39 episodes

Two artists—Béa Gonzalez, a novelist, and Jay Redelsperger, a singer-songwriter, sit down to talk about a subject they are both passionate about—depth psychology and how it applies to the artistic process. The two work through some of the ideas CG Jung and his followers proposed, and explore how they see them playing out in the world and in their own lives. New episodes will be released every Wednesday.

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Bea Gonzalez & Jay Redelsperger

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Arts

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Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

When the Planned Life Collapses: A Journey into Individuation 30.06.2026

In this episode I trace my journey from an intense graduate‑school community in London through academic disillusionment, anxiety, and early novel‑writing, toward Jungian analysis and the creation of Sophia Cycles as a circle for exploring inner life. I reflect on how apparent missteps and detours can become waypoints on the path of individuation, especially as we reclaim shadowed parts of ourselve...

Is Romantic Love a Myth? Jungian Insights on Projection and Eros 17.06.2026

In this episode I sit down with the actor and educator Jeff Miller to explore Robert A. Johnson’s We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love through a Jungian lens, asking why romantic love has become the “single greatest energy system in the Western psyche” and how it often replaces religion as our main path to meaning, transcendence, and ecstasy. We unpack projection—how we place our own...

The Wrath of Achilles, the Grief of Medea: Deconstructing Anger with Dr. Sumit Anand 06.06.2026

In this episode I speak with psychiatrist Dr. Sumit Anand about the complex, often misunderstood nature of anger and its deep roots in personal and collective grief. Drawing on classical literature like Homer’s The Iliad and Euripides’ Medea, contemporary storytelling, and Jungian psychology, we deconstruct how the modern clinical approach has pathologized a vital signaling system of the soul. Dr....

Stirring Thought and Troubling Sleep: A Conversation on James Hollis 20.05.2026

In this episode, I sit down with my longtime friend, professional actor, and educator Jeff Miller for a deep dive into the work of Jungian psychoanalyst James Hollis. We discuss why a life focused on meaning trumps the superficial cultural chase for happiness, how to face our personal shadow, and the challenging but liberating reality of taking absolute responsibility for our own lives. From navig...

The Will to Meaning: Psychiatry and the Soul 09.05.2026

In this new incarnation of the podcast, I interview the same guest from the final episode of Gatherings, psychiatrist Dr. Sumit Anand. We explore why modern mental health must address soul, meaning, and a recognition of the human spirit. Is there space for the notion of a "soul" in contemporary psychiatric practice? Dr. Anand makes a compelling case for why there should be.  

The Messy Middle: Narrative and Connection in Psychiatry 01.02.2026

In this episode, Béa speaks with forensic psychiatrist Dr. Sumit Anand about his journey from medical school in England to decades of work with the “criminally insane,” adolescents, and today’s so-called “worried well.” He traces how a love of story led him toward psychiatry and then back toward narrative, arguing that a patient’s story is data, not decoration. Sumit reflects on the limits of pure...

Writing from the Unconscious: Jung, Story, and the Creative Act 19.12.2025

This episode is a wide-ranging conversation on creativity, Jungian psychology, and what it takes to write from the depths. Béa reflects on her novel Invocation as a psychological culmination of years of work, one that braided together cognitive science, mythology, and inner development and ultimately prompted her to step away from her long-running group. From there, the discussion moves into the d...

The Clockwork World and the Exiled Soul 23.11.2025

In this episode, I turn to the Romantics as guides for a world coming apart, viewing Mary Shelley's Frankenstein as a protest against a mechanistic worldview that devalues feeling. Some questions that emerge from this journey are:   What do we do when technology outpaces our moral framework? Just because we're able to do something, should we? What responsibilities do we incur when we create a new...

The Hunger of the Shadow: Vampires, Repression, and the Modern Psyche 18.10.2025

In this episode of Gatherings, we unpack the enduring power of the vampire archetype. We trace its evolution from the gothic shadows of Dracula to today’s romanticized immortal figures, revealing how the vampire reflects the repressed, unintegrated, and wounded parts of the psyche. Drawing on insights from Marion Woodman and Michael Singer, we explore the vampire as a symbol of psychic energy turn...

Re-Enchanting the Cosmos: Hermeticism, Brain Hemispheres, and the Evolution of Consciousness 06.08.2025

What do a Renaissance magician, a modern neuroscientist, and a forgotten philosopher of language have in common? In this episode, I dive into a wild, mythically-informed rabbit hole that took me from the Corpus Hermeticum to the divided brain model of Iain McGilchrist and the linguistic revelations of Owen Barfield. Together, these three worldviews—Hermeticism, brain lateralization, and the evolut...

Truth in Fiction: A Conversation with Author Shylashri Shankar 24.07.2025

In this episode, Béa sits down with author Shylashri Shankar for a rich and layered conversation about her debut novel, Blood Caste. Set in 1895 Hyderabad and loosely inspired by the mystery of Jack the Ripper, the novel becomes a launching point for a deeper exploration of themes like prejudice, identity, and the tensions between cultures and values. Shankar shares how writing the book was more t...

Dialogues with the Unconscious — Jungian Perspectives with Roula Maria Dib 17.06.2025

In this episode Béa interviews award-winning literary scholar, poet, and Jungian thinker Roula Maria Dib. Together, they explore Jung’s evolving place within feminist thought, the role of the feminine archetype in the psyche, and the power of poetry and art as healing practices. The conversation moves through themes of visionary art, dreams, creativity, and how artists serve as vessels for the col...

The Spiral Path: Myth, Surrender, and Embodied Wisdom with Carly Mountain 27.05.2025

In this episode of Gatherings, we welcome writer and mythic guide Carly Mountain, author of Descent and Rising. Together, we explore the ancient Sumerian myth of Inanna, a powerful narrative of descent, embodiment, and feminine transformation. Carly shares how the myth mirrored her own personal journey and why it continues to speak to modern women facing burnout, identity shifts, or creative rebir...

Romancing the Shadow: A Conversation with Connie Zweig 02.05.2025

In this episode, Béa sits down with author and depth psychologist Connie Zweig to explore what it really means to “romance the shadow.” We speak about the lifelong task of making the unconscious conscious, the myths that still live in us, and how shadow work becomes even more essential as we age. Drawing from her decades of writing and teaching—from Meeting the Shadow to The Inner Work of Age—Conn...

The Creative Process 24.03.2025

In this episode, we explore the creative process. Is it limited to the material work we produce, or is the true creative path the inner work we do as part of the individuation journey? What kinds of conversations should we be having? How does dream work factor into the process? And does an artist need to reveal something meaningful to the collective for their work to be considered art? Books menti...

The Wisdom of Iain McGilchrist: Reconnecting to a Larger Reality 20.02.2025

Do you ever feel like something's off with the way we think as a society? In this episode, we explore the groundbreaking work of Iain McGilchrist, who argues that an imbalance in our brains, favoring the left hemisphere's focus on control, could be leading us down a dangerous path. The discussion delves into how McGilchrist's theories connect with Jungian psychology and the importance of a holisti...

Navigating Life’s Depths: A Guide to James Hollis’ Wisdom 03.02.2025

This episode takes a deep dive into the writings and influence of Jungian analyst James Hollis. We focus on four essential books to get you started: The Eden Project, Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life, Under Saturn’s Shadow, and Swamplands of the Soul. Through these works, we examine powerful themes such as taking responsibility for our lives, embracing individuation, understanding relati...

Unveiling the Books That Captured our Attention in 2024 17.01.2025

Join Béa and Carly as they discuss their top reads from 2024. With a focus on both fiction and nonfiction, they explore Carly Mountain's 'Descent & Rising,' Roberta B. Corson's Stepping Out of the Shadows,' J. Gary Sparks’ The Call of Destiny and Andrea Wulf's 'Magnificent Rebels,' among others. The conversation delves deep into book recommendations, literary themes, and personal reflections o...

Episode 21 | Venus, Inanna and Modern Perspectives 12.02.2024

Uncover the Journey of the Feminine Archetype through Time In this episode, Jay and Béa discuss the myth of Inanna, the two Venuses, and the evolution of the feminine archetype across various cultures and eras. They initiate the conversation with an in-depth exploration of Inanna's myth, drawing parallels with the movie Barbie while emphasizing the continual relevance and transformative power of t...

Episode 20 | The Healing Journey 17.01.2024

In this episode, Jay and Béa explore the many dimensions healing can take. There seems to be a lot of attention placed on the notion of healing in the public sphere but what does this look like? Is it possible to ever fully heal? And if so, what modalities can help us on this journey?  Authors and books mentioned: Dr. Gabor Maté [The Myth of Normal]; Marion Woodman "Addiction to Perfection". Books...

Episode 19 | Ways of Seeing | Conversation with Geneviève Caron 13.12.2023

In this episode, Béa has a conversation with a member of the Sophia Collective---Geneviève Caron, photographer, documentary film maker, artist and spectacular human! Geneviève has just released an exquisite 8-minute documentary where she invites the viewer to journey with the artist Ljubodrag Andric, as he travels through Jaipur, India. We talk about her background, her involvement with the Sophia...

Episode 18 | Is Doing Inner Work enough to Change Things? 06.11.2023

Béa and Jay wrestle with the question of whether doing inner work is enough to change things in the external world as well. Does doing shadow work and wrestling with our inner demons rid the world sufficiently of the burdens we place on others---or do we have a duty to address the social problems of the day as well? If so, how does doing inner work help us in that regard? Books explored include th...

Episode 17 | The Limits of Rational Thought 07.10.2023

In this episode, we discuss Jeffrey Kripal's book, “The Flip” which is an exploration of what happens to people who have an experience that is life transforming but which cannot be explained in rational terms. Other thinkers mentioned include Bernardo Kastrup [More than Allegory] and Rupert Sheldrake [Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home]. Jay also talks about the song, Rain and Gold,...

Episode 16 | Landscape and Typology, Jung in Love 25.09.2023

In this episode we explore how landscape might map onto Jung's typological system. What do the landscapes that attract us say about our typological orientation? We also discuss Lance Owen's book, "Jung in Love" and the Jeff Buckley biography, "Dream Brother: The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley" by David Browne.  The song in this episode is from Jay's album, Harvesting James, "In the Summer...

Episode 15| The Problem with the Word ”Spiritual” 25.08.2023

Jay and Béa are back after a summer break to discuss some of the issues they have with the way the word "spiritual" is used. What does the word mean? How can we approach what it encompasses? We also discuss how the word drifts into a subject that keeps showing up---UFOs and the search for intelligent life in the universe. Is this part of an age old phenomenon appearing in a new guise? Books mentio...

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