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Technology is a frequent topic of conversation. It comes up almost every single episode. And while it's fun to talk about amazing new tools or features, ultimately, you have to tie the tech back to the business strategy . Easy to say, difficult to execute. It's harder still when tracking and working with emerging technology, where there may not yet be a baseline for success. We tackle those points...

On the podcast this week, I speak to Quddus Pourshafie, co-founder of antiCPD a new training business looking to flip the necessary evil of CPD on its head. They have a bold vision: Essentially, we want it to be the most AntiCPD CPD training you've ever seen. CPD is one of the least favorite activities of any lawyer, right? It's something that must be done, but no one particularly enjoys that peri...

In this episode, Ab speaks with Azman Jaafar , Managing Partner and one of the founding members of RHTLaw Asia on how legal technology can drive success in a law firm. This episode is a special segment to the article " How Legal Tech Innovation Can Drive Success in Your Firm " which was published in the Singapore Law Gazette in October 2021.

I don't think we thought that it was going to be as tough of a sell because most of our clients that we have worked with and that we know very well and know how they sell, how they operate, they're all SaaS companies. So they all sell, software as a service, which is a subscription model. And we thought this would be something that, of course, they would understand the benefits of it because they'...

Julia Salasky is the CEO of Legl , a digital workflow tool for law firms.  "Solving problems that are fundamental to the way lawyers work enables lawyers to focus on the work that highly skilled professionals that they are can do best. I don't have a view as to whether in five years or ten years or 25 years, you can train AI to do those jobs, but the work that lawyers do is so varied, so technical...

Adolfo E. Jiménez is a Miami litigation attorney whose practice focuses on international disputes. Mr. Jiménez leads Holland & Knight's South Florida Litigation Practice Group, which consists of more than 80 attorneys, and also leads the firm's International Arbitration and Litigation Team. He is Board Certified in International Litigation and Arbitration by The Florida Bar. He handles general...

Anna Lozynski is an award winning executive general counsel & author, turned Change Agent, Advisor and Influencer.     Starting out at a major Australian law firm, she has spent the majority of her legal career in-house working in the banking, automotive, and cosmetics industries. In 2021, Anna has donned her entrepreneurial shoes and launched her own Advisory service, on a mission to help law...

I spoke with Matthew Waldman (Founder, San-Q, and Professor Keio Graduate School of Design) and Ruben Fernandez Vela (Senior Researcher, Samcara research lab) on transformation and innovation lessons from designing next-gen cities. This was a fascinating chat, and much of the ideas we discussed could very easily be extrapolated for firms, in-house teams, indeed any business. Here are three things...

So Legal is coming late to the party on some of this, but at least it arrived very well dressed because we get to now pick and choose some of the best parts of project management, change management transformation, continuous improvement. Peter Dombkins is a national leader in legal transformation, legal operations, and the project management of legal professional services. He has received awards f...

Mouthpiece Law is a student-run not-for-profit. As the world’s first legal education & technology platform, they connect and empower law students and legal professionals to form a legal aid task force and address legal needs through low-cost legal services. Avinash Pillay is the COO and Chief Legal Engineer at Mouthpiece Law.

Len Hickey is an IP lawyer and founder of Litigaze a case evaluation tool for modern legal teams that enables the evaluation of complex cases using intuitive visual planning. You can find out more about Litigaze at and connect with Len Hickey on LinkedIn . 

Elani is a leader in building high-growth startups through streamlined operations. After earning her master's from King's College, London, and serving more than two years at the Peace Corp. Elani spent almost a decade helping emerging tech companies develop, optimize and scale their operations marketing, and people processes. Elani is now the venture program manager at MDR Lab. Topics What is MDR...

Jim Chiang is the founder of My Legal Einstein , an AI-powered legal contract review tool.  “So when you think about a time the value of that to actually have that much of a limiting factor in terms of getting to some point of value, you could have done a stand why Legal AI hasn't really gained a huge amount of adoption. So My Legal Einstein really is intended to have a user who never actually has...

Parul Patel is the founder of Fuel and Move , a consultancy that helps Partners of law firms and General Counsels develop their teams and lawyers for performance optimization.  “So performance optimization means that you're delivering at a high level of performance, but you're not, it's not coming at the expense of exhaustion burnout, a lot of these things that we see quite prevalent within the le...

Why successfully introducing artificial intelligence in legal tech is a challenge Matthew Golab is the Director of Legal Informatics and R+D at Gilbert + Tobin. He leads a specialized in-house multidisciplinary legal informatics team that utilizes a variety of data analytics and eDiscovery, and other AI technology tools. Matthew has more than 20 years of experience in the legal technology industry...

Rasmeet Charya is the Chief Innovation Officer at Algo Legal . As Chief Innovation Officer, Rasmeet brings a strong passion for transforming how law firms and lawyers work with clients and think about innovation. From understanding problems, curating ideas, and facilitating innovation processes, Rasmeet leads a team that focuses on analyzing how technology can be used by the firm to enhance transp...

Giles Thompson is the Head of Growth @ Avvoka 📈, former lawyer at Kirkland & Ellis and Herbert Smith Freehills ⚖️,  Agriculturalist & Foodie 🚜, and tech investor & entrepreneur 🚀  Giles left practice a year ago to join the world of legal technology, and during this conversation we discuss: How the culture has shifted from his days in practice vs what he hears today The challenge of...

Jan Hards is the Director of Legal Innovation at Johnson Winter & Slattery. After years of practicing as a Corporate M&A Lawyer at Freshfields in the UK, and then later at Johnson Winter & Slattery, he made a deliberate move to become the firm’s Director of Legal Innovation.  We discuss how Jan worked through that decision, what were some assumptions that he made, and some of the chall...

Innovation management helps to optimize the innovation process, identify bottlenecks and increase the productivity of innovation, investment, and resources. Floor Blindenbach is the founder of Organizing4Innovation. Trigged by a recent whitepaper, I speak with Floor to discuss her views on innovation management for law firms. We spoke about: the importance of treating innovation as a process defin...

Alice Stephenson is a founder and tech lawyer driving inclusion and innovation in law and promoting individuality within the legal profession. Alice founded Stephenson Law in 2017 to create a law firm that does things differently. Tackling each stereotype head-on, she is on a mission to build a forward-thinking, innovative law firm that puts people at the heart of everything it does.  Alice's goal...

Innovation and Transformation Perspectives From Around the World Ab: [00:00:00] Innovation and transformation perspectives from around the world   There is tremendous variability in how the legal industry approaches innovation and technology initiatives, and the range is greater still when you expand the scope to different jurisdictions and regions worldwide.  Through a series of interviews with i...

Contracts are crucial to the legal process, however more frequently the process of contracting can be painful. In this episode we discuss how to remove unnecessary barriers from contracts while offering the same protections, benchmarking the performance of your contracts, and Alex’s reflections on 10 years since founding Radiant Law.    Key quotes   Quotes have been extracted from the live convers...

Alex Low is an expert in helping businesses implement and adopt marketing and sales strategies. He regularly speaks to experts through his podcast The Death of a Salesman and applies the principles at BeyondSales and DLA ignite. Oh and he's worked in the BD function at PwC, as Client Relationship Manager at BLP (now BCLP), lead Client Dev at JLL, and more.  In this episode we discuss:  Why good ma...

In this episode of Fringe Legal, host Abhijat Saraswat speaks with Janet Stanton. I reached out to Janet after having read her article on the importance of strategic client management. We discuss the topic in detail including what it means, the benefits for individuals and the firm, implementation advice, and pitfalls to avoid. Janet is an accomplished business person who brings her experience fro...

Making innovation everyone's business with Allister Spencer Innovation has as many definitions as the number of people you ask to define it. Regardless of what you think of as "innovative," the execution needs to permeate the business. Abhijat Saraswat speaks with Allister Spencer on how to make innovation everyone's business.   In this episode, we’ll go over: Review the state of the union earlier...