Forgive Me For I Have Followed

In this special bonus episode, Jessica and Kailea respond to the recent federal raids at Shekinah Church. They unpack what these developments could potentially mean, not just for the investigation, but for the survivors, the families, and the current members. Previous guest Angela joins to share her thoughts as well. Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit...

Jess and Kailea are joined by producers Leo, Aaron, and Sophie for a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the podcast and its exploration of the ongoing impact of Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. The team discusses the challenges of reaching out to victims, the emotional discoveries made during production, and the ethical considerations of handling such sensitive stories. They also...

In this second episode with Melanie Lee, Jess joins Kailea in their sit-down with the key figure from Dancing for the Devil: The 7M TikTok Cult documentary. They discuss the critical split in the early days of Shekinah church between leaders Robert and Catherine, an event that left a lasting impression on Melanie Lee. Melanie shares what it was like to be raised in the church, and how even the see...

In this powerful episode, Jess and Kailea sit down with Melanie Lee, a key figure from Dancing for the Devil: The 7M TikTok Cult documentary, to dive deeper into her experience with Shekinah and life after the church. Melanie reflects on pivotal moments not fully explored in the documentary, including her trip to Korea and a revealing conversation with her sister. She also sheds light on Robert&rs...

Jess and Kailea continue their conversation with Priscylla Leigh as she reflects on her tumultuous journey through Shekinah Church and what ultimately led her to leave. She also discusses how the process of filming the Dancing for the Devil documentary series and the healing power of finally sharing her story and how it brought about profound personal transformation. Finally, Priscylla talks about...

Jess and Kailea sit down with Priscylla Leigh to discuss her tumultuous journey through Shekinah Church, which promised salvation but ultimately led to emotional and physical abuse. Priscylla opens up about the manipulation she endured at the hands of Robert Shinn and his cohorts and the internal conflicts she faced, and the pivotal moments that led to her leaving the church multiple times. ...

Kailea guides Jessica through the intriguing world of the Modern Mystery School, founded by Gudni Gudnason, a descendant of the Norse god Thor?! As they delve into its claims of spiritual enlightenment, DNA activation, and esoteric teachings, they uncover the school's controversial journey from Iceland to the U.S., and its eventual rise on the international stage. The school’s rapid expansio...

In this powerful episode, Jess & Kailea sit down with past guest Angela (Former wife of Shekinah Church and 7m Films Member James B-Dash Derrick) and her best friend Lacy to discuss their experiences at Hospitality Church, led by Pastor David. They share how their journey within the church, marked by fear-based teachings and emotional trauma, led them to question their faith and ultimately lea...

In this episode, Jess and Kailea explore the world of Shen Yun, the globally touring performing arts company, and its controversial ties to the Falun Gong movement. They examine the fascinating backstory behind the organization, from its founding to the allegations of forced labor and cult-like practices. Joining them are friends Jeremy and Kylie, who share their personal experiences of attending...

In this week's episode, Jess & Kailea dive into the chilling world of the Zizians, a group with extreme beliefs that have led to tragic real-world consequences. The recent arrest of Jack “Ziz” Lasota, shines a light on the dangerous intersection of internet philosophy and radical action. The episode explores the origins of Ziz's unorthodox theories, which pushed the limits of ratio...

In this episode of Forgive Me For I Have Followed , Jessica & Kailea dive into the powerful role language plays in cults and high-control groups. They explore how leaders use loaded language, jargon, and manipulation techniques to isolate and bond followers, creating a strong sense of "us vs. them" while redefining everyday words to fit their ideology. From love bombing to the Babel Hypothesis...

In this episode, Jess and Kailea examine the balance between trust and ethical boundaries in creative education, focusing on acting coaches. They dive into the controversial methods of Michele Lonsdale-Smith, whose emotionally intense approach sparked concerns about manipulation and control. With testimonies from former students, they also discuss the dangers of crossing the line between personal...

What’s the difference between a high-control group and a cult? In this episode, we break down the key distinctions and explore how certain groups and leaders blur the line between self-improvement and coercion. Jessica brings Kailea up to speed about what she has learned about Candace Silvers, a former acting coach, now spiritual healer and life coach, whose methods have raised concerns and...

The ladies bring a couple updates to the table and Kailea shares what life's been like outside of the church in this bonus episode. Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing for the Devil documentary series by delving deeper into the personal stories of those affected by Robert Shinn, Shekinah Church, and 7M Films. We will focus on the experiences of...

In this special episode of Forgive Me for I Have Followed , Jessica and Kailea reflect on their journey throughout the series, revisiting the guests and conversations that left a lasting impact. They’ll also highlight memorable moments, share personal insights, and offer candid reflections on key sermon recordings from Shekinah Pastor Robert Shinn.   Forgive Me For I Have Followed conti...

In this episode, Migdalia Raino opens up about the heartbreaking journey of her son Nick’s involvement with Shekinah Church and 7M Films, detailing the troubling changes she witnessed in him over the years. She shares how Nick’s love for dance led him to the church, but soon the group’s emotional and financial manipulation began to tear apart his connection with his family. Migda...

In this episode, Jessica and Kailea dive deep into the recent controversies surrounding Krump dancer Chez “TIGHTEYEX” Wills. From the creation of  Krump Inc. and the rift it’s caused within the community, to his unwavering defense of Robert Shinn and Shekinah Church despite numerous allegations, they explore the complex layers of loyalty, power, and division at play. The hos...

In this episode, we sit down with  the Haleys, creators of Stop Culting and Exposing 7M , and Katie Joy, creator of Without a Crystal Ball , to explore the dark world of Shekinah Church and 7M Films. The Haleys  share their journeys of uncovering the manipulative practices of Robert Shinn and his church, while Katie discusses her personal connection to the Wilking family's story and her...

In this episode, investigative journalist Sarah Berman (Author of  Don’t Call It a Cult: The Shocking Story of Keith Raniere and the Women of NXIVM) discusses her reporting on NXIVM and cults. She shares insights into the emotional and ethical challenges of working with survivors, the evolving language around cults, and offers advice on spotting red flags. Sarah also addresses the legal...

In this episode, we’re joined by Andrew, a former member of Shekinah for over six years in the early 2000s. He shares his journey into the world of the church, how his labor was exploited, and how much of his experience was shaped by his various roles within the cult. He also discusses the disturbing accusations against Pastor Robert Shinn that ultimately led him to leave. Finally, Andrew explains...

  In the conclusion to our conversation,, we dive deeper into Kevin “Konkrete” Davis’s challenges with Shekinah Church and 7M Films. He reveals the key moments and conversations that helped him realize the changes he needed to make, as well as the fallout from his decision to leave and forge his own path forward.   Forgive Me For I Have Followed continues the exploration from Netflix’s hit Dancing...

In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, we catch up with Kevin "Konkrete" Davis to learn about his journey since leaving Shekinah Church and 7M Films. He shares how “Krumping” led him to the church, reflects on his challenging experiences there, and explains why it ultimately wasn’t the right fit. Kevin also discusses his growing relationship with his wife, Kailea, and his current pursuits in lif...

The director of the documentary series joins the show to discuss his experience in bringing the story of Shekinah Church and 7M to life. He explains why it was crucial to present the narrative from the perspective of former members. He also shares the cinematic influences that shaped the visual style of the series. Derek talks about how the documentary aims to support individuals facing similar st...

In this episode, former Shekinah Church member Amanda shares her personal journey, beginning with her current emotional state and the reasons for finally sharing her story. She recounts her connection with the church and Robert Shinn, her meeting and marrying her husband there, and the support she expected from the community, as well as her various roles within the church. The conversation then sh...

In this episode, we chat with Dr. Quincee Gideon, a psychologist and therapist, about the factors that attract individuals to controlled communities and what drives them to seek escape. We examine Shekinah Church and 7M Films, highlighting how these organizations stand apart from other cult-like groups. Additionally, we provide insights into effective solutions and ways to support those entangled...