Find The Outside

When we intentionally practice what it means to be together, we increase the possibility of levelling-up. In episode fourteen, Gibrán Rivera joins us for a conversation about how to co-create the space to tackle insurmountable problems. 1.14 —— SHOW NOTES Tues: Today we’re talking to one of my favourite people in the world, Gibrán Rivera , a facilitator also working in systems change. Gibrán is an...

In episode thirteen, Tim and Tuesday continue their conversation around history, impact, and our world — since context fundamentally alters how we relate to each other in the work of change, we delve in. 1.13 —— SHOW NOTES Tim: Vulnerability is about revealing something of yourself, which invites others to do the same.  Tues: Vulnerability feels like something we, as a people, are seeking and...

In episode twelve, Tim and Tuesday talk about how we honour and interpret our ancestors’ actions, roles, and impacts — think reverberations of colonialism and class — to grasp the underpinnings of our current world. 1.12 —— SHOW NOTES Tim: I’ve been doing a lot of work around what it means to have been raised and educated within my class. I realized the need to own the impacts of my ancestry on me...

In episode eleven, Tim and Tuesday deconstruct the change journey of a piece of work that rings bells across the spectrum. Using sport as a container, what can the rest of us learn about breaking through to ‘win’? 1.11 — SHOW NOTES Tues: This piece of work represents an intersection between our growing up, our current physical activity, and our work. Tim and Tues reflect on their own connection to...

In episode ten, Tim and Tuesday talk to author and collaborator Kate Inglis on the parallels of how we can be light-keepers despite impossible loss as human beings, and impossible odds as change leaders. 1.10 —— SHOW NOTES Author and collaborator Kate Inglis reads a short excerpt from her new book Notes for the Everlost , reflecting on the randomness we confront when trauma or loss occurs in our l...

In episode nine, Tim and Tuesday dig into the reflex to act without pausing to consider the schisms at-play — and illuminate how and why we retreat from difficulty (and from each other). 1.09 —— SHOW NOTES Tues: Tend to be a person who really likes “this” and “that” even when they are seemingly opposites and it’s very true around my whole personality. Attribute to being a bi-racial person. If you...

In episode eight, Tim and Tuesday empathize with facilitators and collaborators separated by organizational difference or mandates — and explore how to go deep and draw out the greatest value. 1.08 —— SHOW NOTES Recent favourite binge-worthy shows: The Good Place and Occupied. When we set up people in a circle, we invariably wind up having it feel like therapy. This can make some of us feel open,...

In episode seven, Tim and Tuesday invite us ‘backstage’ to share revelations and lessons along the path of making their work of systems change into a repeatable, bankable business. 1.07 —SHOW NOTES Tim talks about his first entry into the working world, wanting to find a job that could make a difference. Tuesday notes that she never wanted to work for herself. Many of us have that moment of taking...

In episode six, Tim and Tuesday explore the role played by limiting beliefs in their work on systems change, equity and leadership—and the practice of letting them go. 1.06 —— SHOW NOTES Can working with our limiting beliefs be liberating? Is it possible (or even advisable) to eliminate our limiting beliefs? What kind of limiting beliefs show up most frequently in your work? Can you remember somet...

In episode five, Tim and Tuesday unpack why they’ve declined invitations to grow bigger, choosing instead to make The Outside small, flexible, and connected. 1.05 —— SHOW NOTES We are totally committed to building capacity within the communities and organizations we engage. We don’t want to build a dependency on ourselves for the people we’re serving. We create the conditions for people to get to...

In episode four, Tim and Tuesday reflect on the mindset shift of seeing reality clearly—not just the future that we hope for—and the value of working with what is, right now. 1.04 —— SHOW NOTES Tim shares a quote from the podcast Scroobious Pip : “You work with what you’ve got—not with what you hope for.” The gap between working with what is, versus what you hoped for can feel like miles. We don’t...

In episode three, we contemplate the nature of neutrality. Is it even possible - or desirable - to be neutral as a host or facilitator? What are our obligations towards the people in the room? SHOW NOTES Tim and Tuesday explore the presumption and delivery of neutrality as facilitators, and its connection to equity. Says Tim: “I will very specifically recommend to people to not take actions that i...

In episode two, Tim and Tuesday recap the facilitation paths that led them towards their collaboration on equity, big systems change, and leadership. SHOW NOTES First, Tim and Tuesday discuss where the work of systems change and equity began for each of them, and how has it shifted over the years. What would a typical project look like ten years ago, and for who was the typical client? How did the...

In episode one, Tim and Tuesday kick off with a lively conversation on what matters most as change makers push back — on broken systems, missing voices, and the status quo.  SHOW NOTES First up, we introduce ourselves, talk about our work—who we are and what we do—who are these voices in your ears? Then, we raise the deeper questions we’ll dive into in the coming months: key building blocks a...