Find The Outside

In this final episode together, Tuesday and Tim reflect on endings, beginnings, and the uncertainty that comes with both. Looking back on years of conversations about leadership, transformation, and the human experience, they explore what it means to stay open when the future is unclear. From hosting difficult conversations to navigating personal transitions, they discuss the difference between fo...

In this penultimate episode of Find the Outside , Tim and Tuesday reflect on what comes next as they step into new seasons of work, leadership, and life. Together, they explore themes of uncertainty, spiritual maturity, systems change, personal transformation, vocation, mentorship, and the courage to meet reality with honesty and humanity. Tuesday shares her vision for work rooted more deeply in t...

As Tuesday transitions out of The Outside, she and Tim take a long look back at nearly two decades of working together - from meeting at an Art of Hosting training in Colorado to leading large-scale systems change work around the world. In this deeply reflective conversation, they unpack the original hypotheses behind The Outside: Could participatory leadership and equity genuinely transform syste...

In this deeply personal episode, Tim and Tuesday open up about a major transition: Tuesday’s decision to step away from The Outside after nearly two decades of partnership. What unfolds is an honest, emotional, and thoughtful conversation about what it means to listen for “what’s next” - even when it’s unclear, inconvenient, or uncomfortable. Together, they explore the tension between clarity and...

What if the past isn’t behind us - but still speaking, through stories, spaces, and even the buildings around us? In this rich and reflective conversation, Tim sits down with facilitator, counselor, and radio host Maria Bakari to explore the deep connections between people, place, and participation. From the ancient island of Rhodes to European youth work and civic engagement initiatives, Maria sh...

In a world that feels increasingly unpredictable, how do we know what’s ours to do? In this episode, Tim and Tues reflect on recent conversations with Zaid Hassan and Sommer Sibilly-Brown - two leaders taking bold, values-driven action in complex times. Together, they explore the tension between clarity and doubt, the limits of strategy in a rapidly changing world, and why action - not perfection...

In this thought-provoking cross-post conversation, Tuesday sits down with Daniela Papi-Thornton to explore what happens when systems change, leadership, and the sacred feminine collide. Together, they question traditional leadership models that privilege logic over intuition and control over connection - and examine why personal transformation is inseparable from the systemic change our world is c...

What does it mean to stay grounded in a time of global uncertainty? In this conversation, Tim and Tuesday sit down with Sommer Sibilly-Brown of the  Virgin Islands Good Food Coalition  to explore community, regulation, anger, responsibility, and the work of building the world we want to live in. From food sovereignty in the Caribbean to the importance of our “root systems,” this episode...

What does it really mean to evolve — as individuals, communities, and societies? In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Tim reconnects with longtime collaborator and systems thinker Zaid Hassan to explore his new book,  How to Evolve and How Not To . Drawing on 25 years of work tackling complex global challenges - from climate negotiations inside the UN COP process to launching a decentr...

On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday reflect on two recent conversations with Meg Buzzi and Chris Keevil and follow the threads that emerged long after the recording stopped. What unfolds is a wide-ranging, deeply human dialogue about courage, leadership, imagination, and how we decide what  really  matters in turbulent times. They explore the tension between reflection and action, the fa...

What gives you goosebumps when the world feels uncertain? On today’s episode, Tuesday and Tim welcome back Meg Buzzi for a wide-ranging conversation about wakefulness, collective power, and staying engaged in times of rapid change. From large volunteer-run movements to housing co-ops and political organizing, the conversation explores how participation, urgency, and agency come together at scale....

On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday welcome long-time friend Chris Keevil where they explore the themes of personal growth, leadership, and the complexities of masculinity. They discuss the importance of adventure in shaping identity, the role of sports in personal development, and the necessity of kindness in navigating success. They also delve into the challenges of modern masculinity, the signi...

In this episode, Tim and Tuesday dig into masculinity, leadership, and the cultural fallout of bullying and toxic masculine norms. They unpack why authoritarian leadership models are gaining traction, how fear and division shape today’s politics, and why our individual choices in community engagement matter more than ever. The conversation moves through political discontent, the citizen–state rela...

On today’s episode, Tuesday and Tim crack open the powerful themes of dissolution and reinvention  -  and what they mean for the future of our communities. From environmental protection to collaborative care, they explore why some systems need to be allowed to fade out so that fresh, community-driven alternatives can rise. It’s a lively, thought-provoking conversation about clearing spac...

Get ready for an inspiring and heartfelt conversation with Dennis Adams, as he opens up about what it really means to live fully and age gracefully! Dennis dives into the power of surrounding yourself with the  right  people, finding joy in everyday moments, and staying true to who you are. From embracing authenticity and building genuine connections to facing your fears with courage, th...

In this soul-stirring episode, Tim and Tuesday dive deep into the rhythms of change, the mystery of time, and the power of presence. Together, they unpack the tension between reflecting on the past and embracing the unknown ahead. With honest stories and thoughtful insights, they explore emotional maturity, the evolving role of men’s work, and what it means to build truly supportive spaces. Tune i...

We’re back — and we’re not playing it safe. In this exuberant Season 8 kickoff, Tim and Tuesday dive headfirst into life’s crossroads, where change isn’t just inevitable — it’s fuel for something greater. They’re talking bold pivots, fresh perspectives, and what it really takes to lift your gaze when the road gets rough. This isn’t just reflection — it’s ignition. Tune in.  Resources: Learn m...

In the final episode of Season 7, Tim and Tuesday are re-joined by Dr. Gabrielle Donnelly and Gian Paul Ganzoni, where they all reflect on their season’s journey, diving into themes of courageous leadership, nature as a guide, and the power of community. These four powerhouses explore the tension between speed and stillness, the need for self-care, and how intentional action can drive personal and...

In this rich and thoughtful conversation, Tim and Tuesday delve into the themes of integration, imagination, and the courage it takes to face darkness—both personal and collective—in times of societal upheaval. Drawing inspiration from Ursula K. Le Guin’s radical storytelling to the recent SSIR article on systems collapse, they explore alternatives to traditional heroic narratives and consider oth...

On today’s episode of Find The Outside, Tuesday and Tim dive into the art of  unwinding —physically, emotionally, and spiritually. They share personal stories and practical insights about how tuning into the body can transform how we lead, live, and heal. From finding motivation to navigating tough moments, Tuesday and Tim explore how body awareness fuels emotional intelligence and personal g...

On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday reflect on the choices we make and what we release as we step into new chapters. They share their evolving connection with nature, the effects of climate change on that relationship, and the physiological benefits of time spent outdoors. The conversation weaves through themes of letting go, navigating transitions, and shifting from strategy to wisdom—both person...

Outside Conversations with Toke Moeller: On the practices that allow opposites to exist (Best of Find The Outside: The Podcast) Originally published on July 6, 2022, this episode welcomes long-time friend, and mentor, Toke Moeller, co-founder of the Art of Hosting, The Flow Game, and The Practising for Peace dojo. Toke is one of the most grounded, pragmatic and visionary leaders we know. The conve...

On today’s episode of podcast, Tim and Tuesday officially announce The Outside’s next Art of Hosting training, coming this October in beautiful Nova Scotia, Canada . They dive into a rich conversation about the growing importance of participatory leadership in our fast-changing world, and why tapping into collective intelligence and collaboration is more vital than ever in leadership. Tune in for...

Join Tim and Tuesday where they reflect on their recent guests - Betsy Taylor, Bob Wing, and Margaret Wheatley - and explore themes of personal growth, self-acceptance, and the journey back to one's true self. They discuss the challenges of living authentically in a rapidly changing world and the importance of eldership in guiding this journey. Through personal anecdotes and insights, Tim and Tues...

In this heartfelt and inspiring episode, Tim and Tuesday sit down with their longtime friend and mentor, Margaret Wheatley, a trailblazer in understanding and navigating systemic collapse and disruption over the past four decades. Margaret, a thought leader and writer, shares insights from her new book of poetry and delves deep into the complexities of leadership, compassion, and community in toda...