Everyday Redemption

Season 4: Current Issues: Gender in Parenting, Trauma, AI in Counseling, and Social Media In this episode, hosts Caleb Martin and Cathy Chang are joined by Josh King, former Director of Communications at Perimeter Church and current Marketing Director at an AI software company, for a thoughtful conversation about technology, faith, and discernment. Together, they explore the growing presence of AI...

Season 4: Current Issues: Gender in Parenting, Trauma, AI in Counseling, and Social Media  In this episode, hosts Caleb Martin and Cathy Chang are joined by Darby Strickland, counselor at CCEF and author of  When It’s Trauma  (2025), for a conversation about trauma, suffering, and the heart of God toward those who are hurting. Darby gives language to the painful and confusing effects of trauma, gi...

Season 4: Current Issues: Gender in Parenting, Trauma, AI in Counseling, and Social Media  In this episode, hosts Caleb Martin and Cathy Chang are joined by Jeff Norris, Lead Pastor of Perimeter Church, for an honest and reflective conversation about the role social media plays in our lives. Together, they explore how easily our habits can form around our phones and invite listeners to consider wh...

Season 4: Current Issues: Gender in Parenting, Trauma, AI in Counseling, and Social Media  In this episode, hosts Caleb Martin and Cathy Chang are joined by Johnathan Holmes, founder and executive director of Fieldstone Counseling, interim director of CCEF, instructor at Westminster Theological Seminary, and author of  Grounded in Grace . Together, they engage in a conversation surrounding identit...

Season 3: Common Issues In Counseling In this episode, hosts Cathy and Caleb are joined by Chip Sweney, Executive Director and Pastor of Greater Atlanta Transformation at Perimeter, for an honest conversation about anxiety and depression. Chip vulnerably shares his journey of walking through intense anxiety and depression while serving in pastoral leadership and how God met him in the depths of hi...

Season 3: Common Issues In Counseling In this episode, hosts Caleb and Cathy are joined by Jimmy Kim, Executive Leader of Family Transformation at Perimeter, for a thoughtful discussion on guilt and shame. Jimmy speaks from his own background as a Korean American to shed light on how shame and grace can feel so difficult to walk through. Together, they explore how scripture and our union with Chri...

Season 3: Common Issues In Counseling In this episode, hosts Caleb and Cathy are joined by fellow Perimeter counselor Ashley Cable for a conversation about chronic illness. Drawing from Ashley’s own lived experience of walking through multiple ongoing illnesses, the three discuss what it looks like to cling to truth and trust God in circumstances that feel long, painful, and uncertain. Throughout...

Season 2: All Of Life By Faith In this episode, host Cathy is joined by cohost Jonah Martinez, a fellow counselor at Perimeter Counseling, to talk about the joys and challenges of parenting. Drawing from Jonah’s background in student and family ministry and his work in family counseling, they approach parenting with humility, hope, and dependence on the Lord. Together, they explore what it looks l...

Season 2: All Of Life By Faith In this episode, our hosts Caleb and Cathy are joined by fellow Perimeter counselor Karen Benater to talk about marriage—why it’s hard, why it’s worth it, and how God uses it to sanctify us. Together they unpack common false beliefs about marriage, inviting listeners to see it not as something to endure alone, but as a place where God sanctifies and grows us together...

Season 2: All Of Life By Faith In this episode, our hosts Caleb and Cathy are joined alongside Perimeter staff members Jamie Voss and Jackie Lucas to discuss singleness, contentment, and trust. Throughout the conversation, Jamie and Jackie share their own journeys in singleness and the ways the Lord has met them, shaped their desires, and given purpose in their stories. God gives both singleness a...

Season 1: Counseling Foundations In this episode, Cathy, Karen, and Caleb continue their conversation on unwanted or negative emotions, offering a thoughtful framework to help process them. Emotions are a vital part of our humanity—purposefully designed by God. Even Jesus, who had perfect faith, experienced negative emotions. So, can we obey in the midst of them? And what does that look like in re...

Season 1: Counseling Foundations In this episode of the Perimeter Counseling Podcast, Cathy, Karen, and Caleb come together to discuss the heart—or as the Bible describes it, the inner heart—and the emotions that come with it. Many Christians struggle with feelings of shame, failure, or guilt when experiencing negative emotions, fearing it reflects a lack of strong or mature faith. However, as the...

Season 1: Counseling Foundations In this episode, Cathy Chang, Karen Benater, and Caleb Martin discuss what distinguishes Perimeter Counseling as biblical counseling. The counselors discuss a different approach, emphasizing that the difficulties we face often stem from within us, not just from external circumstances. They share how we navigate these challenges and the support we receive as believe...