Patrick Buckley
Empires
Empires explores the top brick & mortar businesses through stories, and interviews of multi-unit franchise operators, founders, and executives. empirespod.substack.com
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Patrick Buckley
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Latest episode
Oct 5, 2026
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Episodes
The Pickleball Franchise Boom - Where is it Now? 05.10.2026 52:30
Jay Diedrich, co-founder and CEO of Ace Pickleball Club, breaks down the business behind the pickleball boom. We discuss why clubs are struggling despite the sport’s popularity, how high rents and unrealistic revenue projections are hurting operators, and why Ace paused franchising. Jay also shares Ace’s expansion into media and why he remains optimistic about pickleball’s future - even as he pred...
From Quiznos Employee to 10+ Unit Restaurant Owner 24.09.2026 47:41
Kayla went from working at Quiznos at 16 to helping Mike’s Red Tacos sell hundreds of franchises—and then buying a majority stake in a multi-unit portfolio spanning Arby’s, McAlister’s, and Little Caesars. We discuss her move from franchise sales to ownership, turning around a struggling restaurant group, and building Red Door Brands into an operating partner for other franchisees. OPEN NEW LOCATI...
How Slick City Puts up 7 Figure EBITDA 10.09.2026 48:18
Bron Launsby shares how he went from an initially skeptical franchise prospect to building a nine-location Sky Zone portfolio in under a decade. He explains why trampoline parks offered unusually attractive economics, how he kept locations relevant through constant reinvestment and new attractions, and why he ultimately sold the entire portfolio in 2024. Bron then tells the origin story of Slick C...
From Borders to Wahlburgers - Lessons in Brick & Mortar 02.09.2026 1:08:28
Rick Vanzura draws on a career spanning Borders, Panera, Wahlburgers, GameStop, and GrowthFactor to explain why certain brick-and-mortar brands thrive while others lose their way. He breaks down Cava’s advantage over Sweetgreen and Chipotle, how Panera “optimized itself to death,” and why the majority of value in restaurants accrues to the category winner. Rick also shares remarkable stories from...
The Franchise Being Built by Sean Thomas (Grandson of Wendy’s Founder, Dave Thomas) 21.08.2026 50:13
Sean Thomas is the grandson of legendary Wendy's founder Dave Thomas. Today, Sean not only owns multiple Wendy's locations, but he is also the co-founder of his own chicken and dirty soda chain, Minnie Bird. OPEN NEW LOCATIONS IN WEEKS WITH CLOUDKITCHENS: https://l.cloudkitchens.com/empires--CONSIDERING SELLING YOUR BUSINESS?https://www.empirespod.com/for-multi-unit-owners This is a public episode...
Building Tint World: The Makings of an Auto Empire 10.08.2026 1:34:29
Charles Bonfiglio, founder and CEO of Tint World, shares how he went from growing up in his father’s Brooklyn clothing factory to becoming one of Meineke’s top franchisees and eventually building Tint World into a national franchise system. He explains how he learned franchising from the operator side, why he bought Tint World, and how he spent years refining the model before accelerating growth....
From Raising Cane's to The Coop: The Economics of Chicken Tenders 20.07.2026 1:09:02
Eliot McDonald went from Raising Cane's shift manager to founding his own chicken tender concept. We discuss everything about chicken tenders & QSR, and how his restaurant chain is doing thus farOPEN NEW LOCATIONS IN WEEKS WITH CLOUDKITCHENS: https://l.cloudkitchens.com/empires--BUY OR SELL FRANCHISES WITH OUR TEAM: https://www.empirespod.com/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss...
Why Handel's is the #1 Ice Cream Business in America 10.07.2026 1:38:20
Andrea Huerta has been operating franchises since she was a teenager, starting as a crew member in her parents McDonald’s location. After helping her family grow a portfolio of El Pollo Loco locations, Andrea decided to go all in on Handel’s Ice Cream. Handel’s might just be the top ice cream business in America on a per unit basis, and Andrea shares everything there is to know about this concept,...
How One of the Largest Family Owned Fast Food Empires Was Built (265+ units) 02.07.2026 1:21:15
Harsh Ghai is one of the largest Burger King franchise owners in America. He's also one of, if not the, largest family owned franchisee with over 250 locations across Burger King, Taco Bell, & Popeye's. We discuss the Burger King comeback, as well his lessons operating over multiple decades....OPEN NEW LOCATIONS IN WEEKS WITH CLOUDKITCHENS: https://l.cloudkitchens.com/empiresBUY OR SELL FRANCHISES...
The Bagel Wars: How H&H Is Scaling Without Private Equity 22.06.2026 1:19:07
Jay Rushin, owner of H&H Bagels, joins the podcast to break down the rise of the bagel category, why H&H has taken a different path from venture-backed competitors, and how the brand is scaling its New York bagel model through franchising. He shares the story behind acquiring H&H, rebuilding the business, launching breakfast sandwiches, building a Queens production facility, and creating a franchi...
The Evolution of Subway - Bill Mathis (3 unit owner) 10.06.2026 1:03:56
Bill Mathis worked for Subway starting in 1992, and eventually became a franchise owner in 2001. He's owned as many as 4 stores, and gives us an inside look at the brand over the past few decades. We dive into everything and everything, including the impact of the $5 footlong promo, the sandwich wars with Quiznos, what Fred DeLuca was like, and how the transition under Roark Capital has been. FOR...
The Iconic New York Slice Shop That's Franchising (Prince St. Pizza) 28.05.2026 1:20:40
Prince Street Pizza went from a single NYC slice shop to one of the most viral pizza brands in America. In this episode, Prince Street Pizza CEO & co-owner Lawrence Longo breaks down how the brand exploded through Instagram, celebrity co-signs, and its iconic Spicy Spring slice. He’s now leading the brand's expansion across the U.S. with a highly selective franchising strategy. JOIN OUR WEEKLY NEW...
Building Jersey Mike's - 25 Unit Operator 15.05.2026 1:09:29
Kavrin McGuire operates 25 Jersey Mike’s locations alongside his father and brother. In this conversation, we break down:• How Jersey Mike’s maintains product quality at scale• What it’s actually like operating a high-volume sandwich business• Why Peter Cancro built such intense loyalty among franchisees• The truth about the Blackstone acquisition rumors• How Kavrin’s family scaled through acquisi...
Inside the Largest KidStrong Empire (60+ Units) 30.04.2026 1:09:19
Joe Pedatella is scaling one of the fastest-growing KidStrong empires in the country: * 16 locations open * 60+ in development * And a goal of 100 long term In this episode, he breaks down how he pre-sold 700 members before opening, built a culture that scales, and turned one gym into a multi-unit machine that is only just starting to hit it’s stride. Considering buying a franchise? www.empirespod...
Franchising the Farm: Area 2 Farms 24.04.2026 1:15:38
Area 2 Farms, a venture backed start up, is trying to bring (vertical) farms into every town across America. They've learned from past mistakes of other vertical farm startups, and have changed the model, which they are now franchising... Considering buying a franchise? https://www.empirespod.com/buy-a-franchiseSubscribe to our weekly newsletter: https://empirespod.substack.com/For multi-unit fran...
The Booming Business of Bundt Cakes 15.04.2026 25:06
Nothing Bundt Cakes was recently acquired for $2 billion dollars. Founded in 1997, the brand has quietly built one of the greatest franchises of all time. I explore how they did it, and what their unique X-factor is that has created such consistent success…. Listen to the full conversation with Nick (coming out next week): https://www.youtube.com/@EmpiresPod Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: Cons...
What It’s Really Like To Operate Chick-Fil-A (2-Unit Owner) 31.03.2026 2:09:04
Brandon Hurst went from - in his own words - “a broke college student” working overnight shifts, to becoming one of the top-performing Chick-fil-A operators in the country, now running multiple locations that generate tens of millions in revenue. In this conversation, Brandon breaks down the real Chick-fil-A business model, why the $10K buy-in is misunderstood, and how profit-sharing actually work...
How a Soviet Refugee Built a $12M Restaurant Empire 20.03.2026 1:03:37
Orhan Veli’s story sounds like a movie. At age 6, he watched the Soviet Union collapse overnight: chaos, violence, and uncertainty took over. His family fled with nothing. Within months, his father built a small business…until the mafia burned it down and demanded payment. They eventually escaped to the United States with just $25,000. From there: Roofing jobs in Florida Delivering pizzas Living i...
How Wingstop Became an Empire 14.03.2026 40:26
Get in Touch Interested in buying a franchise? https://www.empirespod.com/buy-a-franchise Are you a multi-unit owner considering selling your business? https://www.fdcapitalgroup.com/ 📝 Episode Description Wingstop started as a tiny wing shop in Dallas in 1994. Today, it’s a $5+ billion global franchise empire with over 3,000 locations, and one of the most profitable unit economic model...
From Dutch Bros Barista to $20M Exit | Darren Spicer (Clutch Coffee Founder) 27.02.2026 1:19:36
Get in Touch Interested in buying a franchise? https://www.empirespod.com/buy-a-franchise Are you a multi-unit owner considering selling your business? https://www.fdcapitalgroup.com/ Get in touch with Darren: https://110-ventures.com/ https://leapbrands.io/ 📝 Episode Description Darren Spicer started as a barista at Dutch Bros. Years later, after the company shut down its franchise...
He Quit His Job to go all in on Club Pilates 19.02.2026 1:00:33
Get in Touch Interested in buying a franchise? https://www.empirespod.com/buy-a-franchise Considering selling your franchise locations? https://www.fdcapitalgroup.com/ Description In 2016, Jon left a secure family business to invest in a then-emerging boutique fitness concept: Club Pilates. Less than a decade later, he owns 48 studios across three states and recently partnered with private...
From One Motel to Billions: The Patel Hotel Empire 12.02.2026 32:15
Get in Contact For multi-unit owners looking to sell their business: https://www.fdcapitalgroup.com/ Interested in buying a franchise? https://www.empirespod.com/buy-a-franchise Description Today, Indian Americans own over 60% of hotels and motels in the United States. Most of them trace back to one region in India: Gujarat. But this didn’t happen by accident. It began in the 1930s with Kan...
The Man Trying to Save Frozen Yogurt Franchising 30.01.2026 59:36
Get in Touch Interested in buying a franchise? https://www.empirespod.com/buy-a-franchise Are you a multi-unit franchise owner considering selling your business? https://www.fdcapitalgroup.com/ Partnership Opportunities https://www.empirespod.com/about#about-footer 🧠 Episode Description Frozen yogurt was written off as a dead category. Neil Hershman didn’t buy that. After leaving finan...
He's Building a Dessert Truck Empire (70+ territories) 23.01.2026 1:04:34
In this episode, Cliff Kennedy, CEO of Frios Gourmet Pops, shares how he went from being a franchisee to acquiring the entire brand, rebuilding the company from the ground up, and transforming it into a mobile-first dessert empire Interested in We unpack: Why Frios’ product was great, but the company was broken How COVID forced a shift from brick-and-mortar to mobile trucks The economics of a mobi...
The Ex-Private Equity Analysts Building a Meineke Empire (25+ locations) 06.01.2026 48:12
Get in Contact For multi-unit owners looking to sell their business: https://www.fdcapitalgroup.com/ Interested in buying a franchise? https://www.frandawgs.com/buy-a-franchise Get in touch with the host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-buckley-%F0%9F%8C%AD-89539499/ Get in touch with Jack and Jake: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-foster-098030a8/ https://www.linkedin.com/in...
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