Michael Kell and Paul Johnson
Econ to Icon
Econ to Icon is a podcast about influential people whose careers began in economics and went somewhere remarkable — into politics, journalism, business, markets, even music. Each episode, hosts Paul Johnson and Michael Kell talk to someone who has been at the centre of the economic and policy decisions that have shaped our lives. Paul — former Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, author of Follow the Money, and one of Britain's leading economists — explores the substance: the policy choices, the economic ideas, and what economics got right and wrong. Michael — economist, former Treasu...
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May 22, 2026
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Episodes
Tim Harford: The Accidental Economist 22.05.2026 45:29
Tim Harford is one of Britain's best-known explainers of economics — presenter of BBC Radio 4's More or Less , author of multiple bestselling books including The Undercover Economist , and longtime columnist at the Financial Times . But as this episode makes clear, almost none of it was planned. Tim talks to Paul Johnson and Michael Kell about a career built on curiosity, accident, and a willingn...
Stephanie Flanders: Making Economics Make Sense 20.05.2026 53:16
Stephanie Flanders is one of the UK's most recognisable economics voices. She grew up in a family steeped in journalism and performance — her father was the comedian and songwriter Michael Flanders, of Flanders and Swann fame — and came of age politically during the high-water mark of Thatcherism, when she first realised that if you wanted to understand politics, you had to understand economics. T...
Sir Steve Webb: From Economics Nerd to Pensions Minister 20.05.2026 49:58
Sir Steve Webb is widely regarded as one of the most effective pensions ministers Britain has ever had. In this first episode of Econ to Icon, Paul Johnson and Michael Kell sit down with the man who drove through the new state pension, helped introduce automatic enrolment, and has spent his post-political career holding the system to account from the outside. Steve is characteristically direct, se...
Trailer - What is Econ to Icon? 20.05.2026 3:15
In this short introductory episode, hosts Paul Johnson and Michael Kell introduce Econ to Icon. This is a podcast about people whose careers began in economics and went somewhere remarkable, exploring the substance of what they did and the choices they made about their career. Paul Johnson has spent nearly four decades working on the economics of public policy — as Director of the Institute for Fi...
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