Abbey Suyker-Harrison and Charlotte Kells Robertson
Dumb Smart Mums
Oh, HEY! Welcome to the Dumb Smart Mums podcast. The podcast where your hosts, Abbey and Charlotte, take you through everything and anything on the minds of contemporary mothers today. Equal parts silly and dumb, smart and insightful, but always evidence-based, accessible, and FUN. Each fortnight we'll don our respective social worker and academia caps, and cover different topics from momfluencers to feminist theory. We'll take you along as we figure out the answers around why motherhood is both the greatest and (sometimes) the worst thing we have ever experienced.
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Abbey Suyker-Harrison and Charlotte Kells Robertson
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Latest episode
Jun 29, 2026
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Episodes
Kylie Jenner Makes Us Feel Weird Feelings (the Celebrity Mums Episode) 29.06.2026 1:49:08
This episode is proudly sponsored by The Mom Store! Go buy all the things! Thanks for your support, Mom Store team. <3 Well.. Hi there. I (Abbey) have done a terrible job at keeping the communication up with the big changes happening on this feed. So, if you don't follow me on social media and you're like "where is WDYPLT? what the heck is this?" surprise!!!! WDYPLT is dead. RIP. She was loved...
SOLO-SODE! Abbey's SKINNY! 16.03.2026 1:07:11
I'm down an organ and ready to paaaaarrrddddyyyyy! Today's solo-sode was born out of the boredom of being home post-surgery. Nothing like your body feeling meh, but your brain moving at one million miles an hour! New things coming soon, watch this space.. Mentioned in this ep: Kiss All the Time Disco Occasionally, Harry Styles Bookety Book Books Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash ...
Kahurangi Carter (@kahucarter) on Young Motherhood, Two Under Two, Parenting as a Political Act, How Parenting Shaped Her Journey to Government, and Kids Being Their Own Person? 02.03.2026 1:27:52
OH, we are so back! An honour to be back in this space for 2026, an even bigger honour for my first guest to be the gorgeous Kahurangi (Kahu) Carter (Ngāti Maniapoto, Tainui). Kahu is the Greens Party MP for Christchurch Central. Not only that, she is a mum of two. She had her first, Freddy (great name), and then 14 months later had Waiata! They are now 18 and 17. We cover so much in t...
Parenting is Political with Sophie Moskowitz feat. DR HEATHER JOHNSTON (@cradlednz) 05.01.2026 59:15
Parenting is political - and navigating baby sleep advice is a big part of it! Dr Heather Johnston of Cradled is one of the most qualified people in Aotearoa to help us deconstruct some of the messages that have dominated the world of baby sleep for the last century - and more! Heather brings to this kōrero her years of training and experience as a medical doctor, an Internationally Board Certifie...
How Elf on the Shelf and the Kardashians Stole Christmas | A HOLIDAY BONUS EPISODE WITH CHARLOTTE KELLS ROBERTSON (@phdmamanz) 22.12.2025 1:26:17
Ho, ho, ho MEEEEERRY CHRISTMAS! What better way to celebrate than to reflect on motherhood, the mental load, and ways that modern motherhood has been made more difficult by a few cultural events. We'd like to thank Maintenance Phase for their beautiful format of podcast episode. We are big, big fans! If you would like to keep up with Charlotte and the cool things she's doing her instag...
SOLO-SODE! Abbey's Reflections on a Year Postpartum, Birth Trauma, Recovery, Growth, One to Two, Refluxy Babies, Starting the Pod, Finding Yourself, and Juggling Balls Jokes 15.12.2025 1:03:09
WELL, I'M ALREADY FEELING A PRE-EMPTIVE VULNERABILITY HANGOVER. Be kind with me. Hold me gently. I'm giving you my feelings here, look after them. I hope that this episode is one you are interested in, let me know if it is and you'd like more! If you are in the early days of parenthood, I see you, you're great, and I'm rooting for you! Take some time to be proud of yourself. We h...
Lydia Tuaiti (@ifoundlydia) on Being 'Lydia', Stepping into Stepparenthood, Running for Mental Health, HG, PND, Prioritising Culture, and Actually Breathing Properly 01.12.2025 1:19:08
DECEMBER! DECK THE HALLS! LISTEN TO THIS GEM OF A HUMAN BEING! Lydia Tuaiti (@ifoundlydia) is the coolest. She's fun, she's a girls girl, she is reflective, and self-aware, and all-round just the coolest. I am so honoured that she was happy to sit down with me and talk about her experience of parenthood (including stepparenthood). This is a perspective I have wanted to share on the podcast for a l...
Parenting is Political with Sophie Moskowitz feat. GEORGE PARKER!! 24.11.2025 1:05:35
In this Parenting is Political episode, Sophie sits down to kōrero with Dr George Parker (they/them) for a conversation about why representation and inclusion matter in healthcare and social services - for all whānau but especially for members of the LGBTQIA+ community. George talks us through their journey from midwifery, to advocacy mahi with Women's Health Action , and then in...
Di McHardy (@_mamas_meals) on Resilience, Not Being Type A or B, 2 Under 2, a Postpartum Career Crisis, and the Love of Cooking 17.11.2025 1:02:26
And so the tradition of having wonderful conversations with wonderful people continues! Di McHardy (who you probably already follow @_mamas_meals) is just the kindest, coolest, most easy-going lady. I will never get sick of speaking to parents who have seen the need for a new resource and created it themselves. Di has done that this year by self-publishing her cookbook 'Family Cooking'. You can se...
Marama Davidson (@maramadavidson) on Being a Mum of Six, Navigating Work and Parenthood, Having Activist Parents, and Unconditional Love "Warts and All" 03.11.2025 47:30
Nope, I cannot believe it. This simply cannot be real life. The Marama Davidson sat down on this lil old pod to speak with me about her parenting journey. As much as I want to shower Marama with praise and adoration, Marama is the first person to point out that she is as human as the rest of us. So I will suppress my natural instinct to rattle off compliments and instead opt to thank h...
Sinead Corcoran (@sineadcorcoran_) on Brazilian Waxes, Red Bull Comfort Toys, and Being the St John's Tent for New Parents 20.10.2025 31:55
PLEASE VOTE FOR US FOR LISTENER'S CHOICE AWARD AT THE NZ PODCAST AWARDS 2025!!! Click here! No intro from me today because there was no housekeeping! I'm still alive and well, don't panic! The podcast gods have blessed us because Sinead Corcoran is back for part 2 of her episode! This time she is answering episodes 2-5. If you haven't listened to part 1, head back and listen to it. Her...
Parenting is Political with Sophie Moskowitz feat. EMILY WRITES! 13.10.2025 1:06:00
Chef Sophie is in the kitchen and she is COOKING! Welcome to the brand new podcast segment called 'Parenting is Political'! My fantastic pal Sophie Moskowitz (of Imperfect Parents fame) has been thinking about starting a podcast for a while, but has been wrestling with how much of a time commitment it is. So we decided why not give those conversations a home on the WDYPLT feed?! Sophie has s...
Sinead Corcoran (sineadcorcoran_) on IVF, HG, Elective C Sections, Love is Blind With Your Baby, Being Relentlessly Vulnerable, PND, and Being so Young and Gorgeous Everyone Thinks You're the Nanny 06.10.2025 1:05:32
Did I or did I not tell you that season 2 was going to be bigger and better than ever?! I have followed and loved this lady for a good, long while, and you'll soon see that I really took the opportunity to yap. Sinead has recently released a book called It Nearly Killed Me but I Love You which I insist you read. It is so fantastic, and there were so many moments that I felt so co...
BONUS: Answering Burning Questions with Kate Zame (@katezameslt) 29.09.2025 47:25
This season I wanted to introduce some new segments and styles of content, because this pod is a space for so much more than the main episodes (but they aren't going anywhere, don't worry, they are my lifelong love). So here is a new segment. Answering Burning Questions is a safe space where we can all come together with good faith and compassion, and ask and answer questions th...
Kate Zame (@katezameslt) on Finding Herself, Five (27) Chickens, Being an AFAB Non-Birthing Parent, the Many Ways to Create a Family, HG, Parental Preferences, and the Magic of Christmas 22.09.2025 1:26:59
This episode feels like a really special one. It's one that I have been fostering for a long time, mainly because I wanted to make sure that Kate and her wife Kelly felt confident in my motivations and ensuring that they knew I was only approaching this with the most care and reverence. Kate Zame is a badass SLT, and that's how you might have come across her work (and, valid, cos her work is...
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That? w/ Dr Morgan Edwards! 15.09.2025 38:16
AS IF WE DIDN'T LOVE HER ENOUGH ALREADY! Everyone's fave doctor, Morgan Edwards is back to answer some listener submitted questions! As with everything Morgan does, she answered them with grace, kindness, generosity, and wisdom. Content forecast: there is mention of sexual assault in the final question, so please look after yourself. Healthy Homes Initiative information is here! ...
Dr Morgan Edwards on HG, Being a Health Professional Parent, Breaking Cycles, Co-Sleeping, and Ignoring Terrible Parenting Advice 08.09.2025 1:07:23
Ohhhhh it feels good to be back. I'm so thrilled to be back with you all, and with Dr Morgan Edwards as my first guest, no less! I feel so honoured to have had Morgan on the pod with me. She is just an incredible wahine. I so admire her ability to stand on her ten toes about the things she believes in, even when she's copping flack for it. I really loved being able to hear more on her...
Hayden Donnell (my brother-in-law) on Bringing Instability to the Family, Hearing the Voice of Zeus, Blown Up Letterboxes, and Tantrums that Resemble Demonic Possession 04.08.2025 1:02:15
Hey, heeeeey! It's the season one finale!! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR THIS LONG I LOVE YA SO DAMN MUCH! This episode is with my brother-in-law Hayden Donnell. He is the father of my sweet, sweet nephew and niece (whose voices you have all become very familiar with in my pod jingle) and our spouses are siblings. You will very quickly learn that Hayden and I have a bit of an unhi...
Rebecca J Keil (@rebeccajkeil) on Age Gaps, Te Reo Reclamation, Treating Your Kids Like Humans, and Breastfeeding Being REALLY HARD 28.07.2025 1:40:46
Kia ora ano! Welcome back to another episode of WDYPLT, our penultimate episode of Season 1! (But don't worry, we've already got heaps of good stuff cooking for season 2!!) This week on the pod I was joined by the one-of-a-kind, OG influencer, good vibes, keeping it real, not afraid to speak up Rebecca J Keil!! Rebecca (@rebeccajkeil) is such a cooool lady. She keeps it so real, and is...
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That w/ Caylin Dickson from Pēpi & Parent! 24.07.2025 46:08
Ohhhh, you guys, she's a gem, she's a gem! Caylin Dickson from Pēpi & Parent is here to answer and debunk alllll things baby sleep. She carefully and considerately answers 5 listener submitted questions, and as she is doing so I develop a massive crush on her because she is just so wonderful! Thank you SO much Caylin, for lending your expertise to the WDYPLT listener whānau, we are...
Cassidy Skelton (@cassidyskelton) on "Moving Fast", Low Cortisol Parenting, Navigating Career and Motherhood, and "Here is Good" 21.07.2025 1:08:35
Who's that giiiiiiiirl, it's Cass! Cassidy Skelton (@cassidyskelton), the lady, the myth, the legend joins me this week for an extra fun, extra chaos chat. I mush so much about Cass in the intro and my pre-pod ramble so there isn't too much more I need to say here, but I was really thrilled to get the opportunity to sit down with my old pal and have a meaningful conversation about our parent...
Britt & MJ Meafou (@dadbehaviour) on Being High School Sweethearts, A Fertility Journey, Raising Kind Humans, and Creating Dads' Village Postpartum 14.07.2025 1:16:08
Blow me down, we've got a couple! It has been on my wishlist for a wee while now to have a couple speaking on their parenting experience together, and we got that this week with Britt and MJ Meafou! You may know MJ as @dadbehaviour on instagram. He shares his life as a Dad on there, but also has created a stroller club for dads in Christchurch! An opportunity for Dads to get together with th...
Abby Bridgeman (@theearlydaysnewzealand) on Solo Parenting, PND, ADHD & Parenthood, Working in Healthcare, and Janky Placentas 07.07.2025 1:17:03
Abby Bridgeman (@theearlydaysnewzealand), y'all. She has quickly become one of my favourite people, and I am really grateful to this podcast for introducing me to her. She wears so many hats: nurse, mum, neurodivergent, parenting educator, total badass, and we get into most of them on the pod! I could yap on for a long time about how much I appreciate and value her education and her fr...
Ben Boyce (@ben_boyce_) on Fostering Your Kids' Interests, Parenting Teenagers, Being in the Public Eye, Navigating Social Media, and Plane Vomits 30.06.2025 59:57
Haaaaaayyyyyooooo! Welcome back for another week! I'm so glad you're here! You have found this podcast while I am in the depths of norovirus and coming to you live from my bed. Everything hurts, chills, shakes, fever, headache. It's a whole thing. Which is WHY you will hear a weird automated intro from me this week. It's my words, but I truly did not have the strength to get out of bed...
BONUS: Why Do You Expert Like That? w/Shrenika from Little Beat First Aid! 26.06.2025 25:11
It's episode 2 of our bonus EXPERT episodes! If you don't know what these are, listeners from the WDYPLT community have the opportunity to submit questions to parenting-adjacent experts for them to be answered. This week Shrenika has 5 questions that she answers from listeners in the WDYPLT community, and she answers them beautifully! If you want to find Shrenika this is her website and this...
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