Matthew Bishop, Jessica Brown
Driving Change
Public policy impacts everyone’s life, for better or worse. The decisions taken by faceless civil servants have a lasting impact on the lives of every person on the planet and on the health of the planet itself. Yet beyond high profile officials, very few people know or appreciate the individuals who have dedicated their lives to creating and implementing the policies that change the world around us. We feel it’s time to change that. Join us each week as we interview the practitioners of public policy, discuss the work they do, and its impact on the world.
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Matthew Bishop, Jessica Brown
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Oct 2, 2025
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Pipenet, Cotana: internet delle merci, la rivoluzione dei trasporti è italiana 02.10.2025 6:15
È italiana l’internet delle merci, una rivoluzione dei trasporti pronta per essere realizzata. Si chiama Pipenet , è una rete di tubi sottovuoto nei quali viaggeranno capsule a levitazione magnetica a 1500 chilometri all’ora su tutto il territorio nazionale, e in prospettiva europeo.
Posidonia spiaggiata, Pollica la utilizza per produrre energia 15.09.2025 5:10
Posidonia spiaggiata : il primo impianto italiano che la utilizzerà per generare biogas e quindi energia si realizzerà a Pollica , nel Cilento , in provincia di Salerno. Ne abbiamo parlato con Stefano Pisani , sindaco di Pollica, che da anni si batte per realizzare il progetto, e sta vedendo il traguardo.
Books Driving Change: Sharath Jeevan and Intrinsic 23.03.2022 33:19
Matthew Bishop (MB): Hello, this is Matthew Bishop with Books Driving Change . And today I'm talking with Sharath Jeevan , who is the author of Intrinsic: A Manifesto to Reignite Our Inner Drive . Sharath is a social entrepreneur who came out of the business world, consulting world, and helped launch STIR Education -- which is an organization that helps teachers improve their performance through t...
Books Driving Change: Jonathan Greenblatt and It Could Happen Here 09.03.2022 40:23
Today on Books Driving Change we talk with Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, who has written a powerful new book called It Could Happen Here: Why America Is Tipping from Hate to the Unthinkable—And How We Can Stop It.
Books Driving Change: Agustín Porres and Unfinished Business in Education 14.02.2022 33:04
The people that work in education and that take the responsibility of leading the education system are mainly optimists. If not, you cannot take the job. In the latest episode of Books Driving Change, Agustín Porres and Matthew Bishop talk about Porres’ new book, Unfinished Business in Education , in which he interviews 31 previous education secretaries from around the globe. Each of them reflects...
Books Driving Change: Ron Gonen and The Waste-Free World 26.01.2022 31:23
In this episode, we talk with Ron Gonen, who is the founder of Closed Loop Partners, and the author of The Waste-Free World: How the Circular Economy Will Take Less, Make More, and Save the Planet. Ron believes we have a challenge in the American economy -- and a little bit in the U.K. as well some other developed countries -- where the highest status in society goes sometimes to the jobs that don...
Made in Africa: A Conversation with Yawa Hansen-Quao 13.01.2022 42:52
Hansen-Quao has also served for three years on the Foundation Board of the World Economic Forum’s Global Shapers Community, has worked as a leadership consultant to UN Women, and in 2016 was awarded an Eisenhower Fellowship in honor of her pioneering work nurturing emerging women leaders. Hansen-Quao talks with Bansal about her journey, both professional and personal, and how her experiences hav...
Books Driving Change: Anne-Marie Slaughter and Renewal 15.12.2021 33:33
Today we talk with Anne-Marie Slaughter, the author of Renewal: From Crisis to Transformation in Our Lives, Work, and Politics. Anne-Marie has been a big figure in Washington and thought leadership for the past 20 years or so. This book is both a story about how America, because America in some ways is also a beacon for the world, needs to go through a process of renewal to get itself out of its c...
Books Driving Change: François Bonnici and The Systems Work of Social Change 08.12.2021 35:13
Matthew Bishop (MB): Hello, this is Books Driving Change with me, Matthew Bishop. And today I'm talking with François Bonnici , co-author with Cynthia Rayner , of The Systems Work of Social Change : How to Harness Connection, Context, and Power to Cultivate Deep and Enduring Change. Obviously, this is a book that goes right to the heart of the mission of Books Driving Change, where we're looking a...
Books Driving Change: Peter Coleman and The Way Out 19.11.2021 43:47
Matthew Bishop (MB): Hello, this is Matthew Bishop with Books Driving Change . And today I'm talking with Peter Coleman of Columbia University, one of the co-founders of the Difficult Conversations Lab , which explores what do we do about toxic conversations, a subject that hopefully won't refer to the conversation we're having together now -- which will hopefully be a very positive conversation...
Made in Africa: A Conversation with Bright Simons 28.10.2021 41:25
That was also a very interesting lesson, because eventually, that will be the way we managed to make the most difference, not by convincing people about the goodness of our mission alone, or trying to shame them into doing good, we found out that ultimately strategic alliances, where people see the enlightened self-interest was almost always a more effective tool, which is where my activism was th...
Books Driving Change: Meighan Stone and Awakening 25.10.2021 39:54
Show me the social movement where there was no backlash. I'll wait for an answer, because there is none. There is not an example of a social movement that didn't trigger backlash. Because these things feel very threatening when we start to change the structures of society. -- Meighan Stone, Senior Fellow, Council on Foreign Relations; Former President, Malala Foundation
Books Driving Change: Paul Polman and Net Positive 06.10.2021 33:25
Paul, thank you for talking with us today. The audience of this podcast is people who are interested in being involved, in building back better, and dealing with some of the big global challenges that we're now facing. In a sentence, why should they read your book? Paul Polman (PP): Well, in a simple sentence will be one question: is the world better off because your company is in it or not? This...
Books Driving Change: Paul Shoemaker and Taking Charge of Change 29.09.2021 23:35
Matthew Bishop (MB): Hello, welcome to Books Driving Change . I'm Matthew Bishop, and today we're talking with Paul Shoemaker, who is the author of Taking Charge of Change: How Rebuilders Solve Hard Problems . Paul is a podcaster, activist, philanthropist, founder of Social Venture Partners International , which is a network of philanthropists, and has been really involved and an activist in chang...
Made in Africa: A Conversation with Chinny Ogunro 13.09.2021 40:02
“If I have to decide between creating one large hospital that impacts a small number of very, very wealthy lives, but makes me personally rich, versus having a large number of small clinics, that impacts probably the lowest income populations and makes me reasonably okay to eat, I will always choose the latter because I'm very much a utilitarian. I want to do the greatest good for the greatest num...
Books Driving Change: Gillian Tett and Anthro-Vision 27.08.2021 33:04
I'm going to start, as I do with all the authors that we have on this podcast, by asking you, Gillian, the audience we're aiming at here is people who are interested in how we can do a better job at improving the state of the world and who are interested in public service in some way. And the question to you is, in a sentence, why should people, our audience, read your book? Gillian Tett (GT): In...
Books Driving Change: Adam Grant and Think Again 16.08.2021 25:01
If you change your mind because you're telling people what they want to hear, and you're trying to curry favor or get the approval of your constituents, you're doing that for purely political reasons. And you are flip flopping, and we should be critical of that. But what if you change because you've encountered stronger evidence or sharper logic? That's not flip flopping, that's called learning. A...
Books Driving Change: Noreena Hertz and The Lonely Century 26.07.2021 33:59
“Loneliness thrives in an ecosystem that its drivers are structural, and political, and economic, as well as to do with choices we make as individuals, and therefore that its solutions need to be comprehensive. That we can solve today’s loneliness crisis, but only if we as government, we as business leaders, and we as individuals, make a decision to do so.” -- Noreena Hertz
Books Driving Change: Enric Sala and The Nature of Nature 14.07.2021 38:28
In this week's episode we talk with Enric Sala, Explorer in Residence at the National Geographic Society, who has written a terrific new book, The Nature of Nature: Why We Need the Wild. Enric is an extraordinary enthusiast for nature and a practical person who has personally led important work to save large amounts of the ocean through his Pristine Seas initiative, which we discuss in this podcas...
Books Driving Change: Jacqueline Novogratz and Manifesto for a Moral Revolution 28.06.2021 30:45
Today, I'm talking with Jacqueline Novogratz, who is the founder and CEO of Acumen, a nonprofit investment fund that takes businesslike approaches to building a better world. Jacqueline is an extraordinary leader herself and has experienced some really demanding challenges throughout her career, including having launched a microfinance institution in Rwanda, where some of the leaders got caught up...
Made in Africa: A Conversation with Elizabeth Wangeci Chege 23.06.2021 43:50
In episode three of Made in Africa, Driving Change’s conversation series with African visionaries whose work impacts the public good, Elizabeth Wangeci Chege speaks with Sarika Bansal about her life and career. Chenge is the CEO and co-founder of WEB Limited, a sustainability design consultancy based in Nairobi, Kenya. Until recently, she was also the chairperson of the Kenya Green Building Societ...
Made in Africa: A Conversation With Dalberg’s James Mwangi 04.06.2021 44:46
“The thing that I found actually resonated [with potential clients] was less of saying how much we knew, and actually playing into how much we didn't know. And actually coming in and saying, look, you shouldn't hire me if you think you shouldn't hire us, our team. If you think that we know more about this topic or your industry than you do. Because then you know, we should be in your job. What you...
Government for a New Generation: Q&A with Donald Kettl 03.06.2021 25:06
Professor Donald Kettl is a world-renowned expert in and professor of public affairs at the Lyndon B. Johnson School at the University of Texas, Austin. He’s a senior fellow at the Volcker Alliance and the Partnership for Public Service as well as the author of eight books on government, global management, democracy and public policy. Professor Kettl joins Driving Change in a conversation about wh...
Made in Africa: A Conversation with Dr. Tlaleng Mofokeng 13.05.2021 47:46
Dr. T is someone who seems at home in every space she enters, whether she is with sex workers in a tiny clinic or with heads of state at the UN General Assembly. She began her career as a medical doctor in the rural Eastern Cape of South Africa where she specialized in sexual and reproductive health, HIV care, and youth-friendly services. She was inspired to become an activist by her experiences g...
From Professional Provocateur To Political Insider. Q&A With Tim Wilson MP 13.01.2021 17:22
Driving Change (DC): In many ways, you have built your career by courting controversy and critiquing the system that you’re now part of. Can you tell us about that journey Tim Wilson (TW): I’ve gone from the experience of working in the world of ideas to what it means to be practical and to have to implement [those ideas] in terms of policy. That’s been a journey. When you’re in the world of ide...
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