John Holl
Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl
Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.
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Episodes
Ep. 206 - Diane Flynt, author of Wild, Tamed, Lost, Revived: The Surprising Story of Apples in the South 01.11.2023 41:28
This week, I’m delighted to be joined by Diane Flynt, the author of the recently published Wild, Tamed, Lost, Revived: The Surprising Story of Apples in the South. This is a story of history, diversity, and the future. For those who say social media is a bad thing, I get it. But occasionally it can provide gems. For example, last week I was scrolling through Facebook when I saw Sean Lilly Wilson,...
Ep. 205 - Sean O'Keefe of Pontoon Brewing 25.10.2023 55:24
There is a lot of uncertainty in the American beer industry these days, especially among the smaller breweries. In what is both a cautionary tale and one of optimism, Sean O’Keefe of Pontoon Brewing in Georgia is here today to talk about how his brewery was forced to close and to furlough employees. Earlier this month the brewery put up a social media post announcing that it needed to close. This...
Ep. 204 - Nate Schweber and This America of Ours (now in paperback) 18.10.2023 55:49
“I’ve known Nate Schweber going on 20 years now, we’ve been colleagues, friends, and even co-authors. I can say without a doubt that he is one of the hardest working reporters I’ve ever met, he has a keen eye for detail, enjoys a good drink, and knows how to rock with the best of them. He’s a raconteur, with endless curiosity and compassion, and great passion. My life is better because I know him...
Ep. 203 - Chad Yakobson of Crooked Stave 11.10.2023 55:38
If you’ve been paying attention to the beer social medias lately, you might have noticed a photo of a Colorado-brewed amber ale making the rounds. It’s called Re-Tired and it’s a clear homage to the original recipe of New Belgium’s Fat Tire. This beer, however, is made by Crooked Stave. Chad Yakobson, the brewery’s founder and brewmaster is here for a conversation. He founded Crooked Stave Artisan...
Ep. 202 - Tim Ogden of Deviant Libations 04.10.2023 39:04
This week, I’m excited to be joined by Tim Ogden of Deviant Libations in Florida, for a conversation that revolves around inclusivity in the beer space, and creating a taproom that reflects personality and passion. This is the last of the shows I recorded during the Florida Brewers Guld Conference this past summer, and I was grateful to meet and spend time with Tim Ogden. Ogden started home bre...
Ep. 201 - Water Chemistry and Malt Production 27.09.2023 56:12
This is a malt centric episode at the intersection of brewer curiosity. In a moment I’ll be talking with Chris Cates of Little Animals Brewing , Brent Manning of Riverbend Malt House , and Andrew Zinn of Leveller Brewing . A year ago, Cates visited Belgium and came back inspired. After visiting through some of the worlds best breweries, drinking classic and carefully crafted saison, he wanted to...
Ep. 200 - The Beer Initiative to Promote 9-8-8 the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. 20.09.2023 39:03
This episode will specifically be talking about self-harm experiences and prevention. Guests Jon Lane of O.H.S.O brewing in Arizona and Russ Klisch of the Lakefront Brewery in Wisconson discuss the beer initiative around 9-8-8, the national Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. This episode will specifically be talking about self-harm experiences and prevention. Lane has lost family and friends to suicide...
Ep. 199 - Eric Desmarais and Alexandra Nowell of CLS Farms 13.09.2023 53:03
Out to Washington this week for an update on the 2023 Hop Crop and to hear how the timing of the harvest impacts flavor and aroma. Eric Desmarais and Alexandra Nowell of CLS Farm in Yakima is here to share their insight. Mid-september means the hop harvest is in full swing in the Pacific Northewest, and to get insight on what is happening with the harvest I’m so pleased to be joined by Eric Desmar...
Bonus: The All About Beer Podcast. IPA Through Time 06.09.2023 1:25:03
India pale ale is the style that built craft beer. With bold, hoppy flavors, it was distinctive and different and tantalized tastebuds of craft beer drinkers. IPA is a historic style, but historic doesn’t mean static. Yes, there are many modern interpretations of IPA, but even historic IPA evolved over time, in response to tastes, wars, taxation and many other factors that drive beer makers and...
Ep. 198 - Ami Parrino of Florida Avenue Brewing 30.08.2023 40:26
During the Florida Brewers Guild Conference a few weeks ago I had the chance to meet a lot of dedicated professionals and folks working to bring deeper meaning to beer. One such person is Ami Parrino the Laboratory Manager at Florida Avenue Brewing Company. At the brewery she combines her expertise as a microbiologist and Advanced Cicerone to ensure the production of top-quality beers and elevate...
Ep. 197 - Live from Jack's Abby Craft Lagers 23.08.2023 1:06:32
A special live audience episode of the podcast co-hosted by John Holl and Andy Crouch. Recorded on location at Jack's Abby Craft Lagers in Framingham, Massachusetts. With special guests: Jennifer Glanville Love of Boston Beer, Sam Hendler of Jack's Abby Brewing, and Adam Romanow of Castle Island Brewing. This Episode is Sponsored By: Denver Rare Beer Tasting If you plan to be in Colorado in a few...
Ep. 196 - Randy Mosher and Your Tasting Brain 16.08.2023 1:03:38
Strap in, because we’re going on a ride, deep into flavor, our senses and what Randy Mosher calls “Your Tasting Brain.” No matter how long you have been around beer, thinking about beer, drinking beer, listening about or talking about beer, there is always something new to learn. This is especially true when around Randy Mosher. He’s the celebrated writer behind classic books like Tasting Beer, a...
Ep. 195 - First Magnitude Brewing 09.08.2023 48:44
A lot of breweries talk about sustainability and environmental practices, but few are as committed as Florida’s First Magnitude. This week on the show it’s a conversation with Christine and John Denny, the founders of the brewery. Located in Gainesville, Florida they are the Southeast’s first carbon-neutral brewery through a partnership with We Are Neutral, and they have donated a lot of money to...
Ep. 194 - Weihenstephan and Jack's Abby 02.08.2023 54:20
Last Week Jack’s Abby, the Massachusetts-based lager brewery announced that it would soon be releasing a collaboration with Weihenstephan, the venerable German brewery. It’s called Fest Of Both Worlds and it’s brewed with Pilsner and Munich malts along with Sterling and Adeena hops, and fermented with TUM 34/70, which Weihenstephan shared for this beer. At nearly 1,000 years old Weihenstephan is...
Ep. 193 - Mandy Naglich and How to Taste 26.07.2023 51:12
We’re tasting all the time when it comes to beer and our drinking experiences. But there is always a chance to become better, to go deeper and layer in more thought. Mandy Naglich, is the author of the new book “How To Taste” and she is here to guide us. There are several books that exist that help us understand our brains and senses when it comes to tasting. Now, there is a new one to add to your...
Ep. 192 - Brewing Guild Directors Discuss a Decade of Beer 19.07.2023 1:24:14
Perspective is important when it comes to enjoying beer and understanding the industry. This episode features a panel comprised of directors of three state brewing guilds. It’s amazing how much has changed in the beer industry in 10 years. We’ve seen the rise of the Hazy IPA all while the the number of operating breweries exploded. Trends have come and gone and mergers and closures dot the landsca...
Ep. 191 - Sandy Boss Febbo of Bang Brewing 12.07.2023 51:39
What’s it like being an organic brewery in 2023? Harder than you might think, but getting a little better. My guest is Sandy Boss Febbo of Minnesota’s Bang Brewery and she’ll explain. I love hearing about breweries that are not trying to be everything to every one. The ones that were founded with a sense of purpose and continue to stick with it. Headed into the craft brewers converence in 2022 i...
Ep. 190 - Scott Ungermann and Reflections on Anchor Brewing 05.07.2023 50:21
The recent news about Anchor Brewing pulling back it’s distribution to just California and discontinuing Our Special Ale, it’s Christmas offering, had me thinking about the brewery’s place in history and its impact. Scott Ungermann, the former brewmaster of Anchor is here to talk about all that and more. A few weeks ago Dave Infante, of the excellent Fingers Newsletter broke the news that broke he...
Ep. 189 - Eric Tennant of Benchtop Brewery 28.06.2023 46:33
We’re talking about food science, quality control, and the relationship to beer with Eric Tennant, the founder and master brewer of Virginia’s Benchtop Brewing. Occasionally beer gets sent to the home office here and on the afternoons when the schedule is clear and I’m in the mood for some refreshment, I open a few and let my mind wonder. A recent box from Benchtop brewing in Virginia got my tas...
Ep. 188 - Ryan Sentz of Funky Buddha Brewery 21.06.2023 56:30
Ryan Sentz is here this week to talk about how he and his brother bought back Funky Buddha, the Florida Brewery they sold to Constellation Brands six years ago. There’s an interesting trend happening in beer these days. Small breweries that had sold to larger brewing companies are regaining their independence. The founders of Three Weavers in California re-purchased the brewery from Fireman Capit...
Brewer to Brewer: Shaun O'Sullivan and Mitch Steele 14.06.2023 1:11:52
A note from John Holl: "This week I’m pleased to share with you a recent episode of the Brewer to Brewer Podcast, which runs on the All About Beer channel. Shaun O’Sullivan of 21st Amendment interviews Mitch Steele of New Realm Brewing. The duo discuss Steele’s career and he shares insight into his time working for Anheuser-Busch at the dawn of craft beer and the movements made to address and co...
Ep. 187 - Averie Swanson at Funk Fest 07.06.2023 46:47
Averie Swanson of Keeping Together is on the show this week in a conversation recorded last month at Funk Fest in Nashville, TN. We’re talking about saison, building a new brewery, and the creative process. Swanson is one of the most talented and thoughtful brewers in the U.S. today and her career path is well known. Going from a volunteer at Jester King in Austin to its head brewer in just four y...
Ep. 186 - Garrett Oliver at Funk Fest 2023 31.05.2023 57:10
This week the show is back in Nashville for the second of three conversations recorded before a crowd at Funk Fest, the amazing event hosted by Yzoo Brewing and Embrace the Funk. Mr. Garrett Oliver the Brewmaster of the Brooklyn Brewery is the guest. As any good beer fan knows, he is the brewmaster of The Brooklyn Brewery, the author of The Brewmaster’s Table, and the Editor-in-Chief of The Oxfor...
Ep. 185 - Camp Rauchbier 2023 24.05.2023 30:03
This is a special edition of This Week in Rauchbier as we celebrate Memorial Day Weekend 2023 with a visit to Camp Rauchbier. Recorded at Barrique Brewing and Blending in Nashville, Tennessee before a live and enthusiastic audience John Holl is joined by Spencer Longhurst in the co-host chair. Guests include Jack Hendler of Jack's Abby Craft Lagers and Khristopher Johnson of Green Bench Brewery ....
Ep. 184 - Vinnie Cilurzo at Funk Fest 2023 17.05.2023 46:42
A lively conversation over two beers with Vinnie Cilurzo recorded before a crowd at the 2023 Funk Fest in Nashville. Cilurzo talks about the relationship between wine and beer, dialing in acidity, and surprises and delights with pours of four-day-old Pliny the Elder. As one of the leading voices in hop-forward beers and proper barrel-aging he offers unparreled insights into what goes into making w...
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