Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show. On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_Podcast On YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHq On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-securit...
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Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
DtSR Episode 294 - Securing Azure 02.05.2018 40:38
* Special thanks to Microsoft for giving DtSR access to fantastic guests, and printing t-shirts & stickers for RSA Conference 2018. Please help us say thank you and check out all of the MS announcements at https://microsoft.com/rsa and if you really want to check out something amazing where IoT and cloud collide, check out https://microsoft.com/azure-sphere . On this second special episode...
DtSR Episode 293 - Diana Kelley from RSA 2018 24.04.2018 39:28
* Special thanks to Microsoft for giving DtSR access to fantastic guests, and printing t-shirts & stickers for RSA Conference 2018. Please help us say thank you and check out all of the MS announcements at https://microsoft.com/rsa and if you really want to check out something amazing where IoT and cloud collide, check out https://microsoft.com/azure-sphere . On this very special episode of t...
DtSR Episode 292 - Navigating Industry Conferences (RSA) 17.04.2018 42:37
This week, James is back and he and Raf sit down for a discussion on navigating the big industry conferences, as RSA Conference kicks off in San Francisco. We add just the right bit of snark to your day, and provide some much-needed commentary on the industry, conferences, and survival. Highlights from this week's show include... A quick overview of RSA Conference Getting value, learning some...
DtSR Episode 291 - A New Perspective On Endpoint (Nyotron) 10.04.2018 39:05
[This week's episode and fantastic discussion on endpoint security is sponsored by Nyotron]. DtSR listeners already know we don't do advertisements or traditional sponsorship - so when we bring in a sponsored guest it's because we believe the topic is interesting and the guests have a genuinely interesting point of view. On that note... The topic this week is the endpoint. Yes, the...
DtSR Episode 290 - What Ails the CMS 03.04.2018 41:59
This week on the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast, Tony Perez stops by for an early morning chat about the content management systems we in InfoSec love to hate on. We talk about Drupal, Wordpress and all the other CMSes out there that have similar issues. Highlights from this week's show include... Why start a company that does CMS security (they're hopeless anyway right?) How man...
DtSR Episode 289 - Neither Security Nor Privacy 27.03.2018 49:37
This week, join DtSR as Rafal sits down across the virtual table with the one and only Robert Hansen. Rob (aka @Rsnake ) discusses his roots of being an almost-bad-guy, to the security of browsers, and privacy. Plus we get to reveal something pretty awesome... Highlights from this week's show include... Rob's fascination with alien conspiracy theories A back history of browsers you&apo...
DtSR Episode 288 - Experienced Opinions 20.03.2018 50:23
This week, while James was out on family duty, I sat down on a Saturday morning with my good friend Will Gragido to talk security. Will is an industry old-timer ( sorry buddy, we're old ) and has some seriously valid opinions on many things. We discuss some interesting topics, and apologize for nothing. Highlights from this week's show include... It's conference season again... an...
DtSR Episode 287 - Armored and Battle Tested 13.03.2018 46:19
In case y'all don't read LinkedIn or Twitter - Rafal recently joined Armor ( Armor.com ), so what better time to interview the CEO Chris Drake than right now. So this week, Chris Drake joins us in the studio to talk about his background (which is quite interesting, by the way) and how he got to start a fast-paced cloud security-as-a-service company. Highlights from this week's sho...
DtSR Episode 286 - Breach vs Incident vs Lawyers 06.03.2018 44:52
This week's DtSR Podcast sits down in the offices of Shawn Tuma to discuss an update on the law with regards to data breaches, or incidents - and what the differences between. We talk through current events, past history and look into the future a bit. Highlights from this week's show include... the legal differences in the words we use (breach vs. incident) notification and disclosure...
DtSR Episode 285 - Alt-Tab Alt-Tab Swivel-Chair 27.02.2018 48:28
We have a treat for you folks this week! On episode 285 of the podcast I'm joined by three well repected, forward thinking, and entrepreneurial-minded security executives to talk about about some of the challenges they see in the industry and what they're doing to solve them. From cloud, to threat intelligence, staffing, and other scaling issues - we address the issues head-on, and provi...
DtSR Episode 284 - MSS SOS 20.02.2018 50:46
This week on the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast, Raf and James welcome long-time friend of Rafal's - Scott Stanton - to the microphone. Scott's able to join Raf in person in Atlanta, while James is predictably on the other end of a Howdy Doodie (you'll get this if you listen). This week, we tackle the MSS issue (Managed Security Services providers) again, but with a fresh angl...
DtSR Episode 283 - Testing Security Into Applications 13.02.2018 49:45
This week an old friend, Vinnie Liu of Bishop Fox, joins Raf and James to talk about the history of App Sec. We started trying to test ourselves secure, and we continue to come back to it - so this episode is a walk down memory lane and a glimpse into the future of application security. Don't forget to like us on iTunes and share with your colleagues! Guest Vinnie Liu ( @VinnieLiu ) - Vince...
DtSR Episode 282 - DDoS - Past, Present, and Future 06.02.2018 43:25
Join us this week on Down the Security Rabbithole as Barrett Lyon (who knows a thing or two about DDoS) is our guest to talk about the evolution of the art and science of kicking people off of a network. Barrett is the authority on DDoS, with over 20 years in the field, going back to when angry teenagers flooded each other off of IRC servers. This is a fun episode that walks through DDoS - where i...
DtSR Episode 281 - Exploiting and Defending Human Behavior 30.01.2018 48:59
This week, go Down the Security Rabbithole with James and Raf as they host Robert Sell. Robert took 3rd place at the Defcon SECTF (Social Engineering Capture-the-Flag) in 2017 and he has some lessons to you in the enterprise. "Social Engineering" (while a ridiculous and non-descriptive term) is a real attack vector. How are you defending your enterprise? Listen in. Then talk back on Twit...
DtSR Episode 280 - A Cloud Container Security Primer 22.01.2018 45:49
This week, Chris Rosen from IBM joins us to talk about cloud containers - and the security (or lack thereof) of them. There is a paradigm change coming which significantly impacts security - if we're ready for it. Chris talks us through the dramatic changes (or maybe not) of doing cloud security with containers and the impact to the shared responsibility model. Join us, and let us know what y...
DtSR Episode 279 - Deeper Down the SDP Rabbithole 16.01.2018 44:28
This week, Jason Garbis re-joins the podcast to go past the Primer (Episode 257) and dive deeper into SDP (Software Defined Perimeter) with a discussion on cloud and relevance to the re-invention of the data center and related infrastructure. Related DtSR listening: Zero Trust Model w/ John Kindervag: http://podcast.wh1t3rabbit.net/dtsr-episode-222-zero-trust-security-model Software Ate the Peri...
DtSR Episode 278 - The Meltdown Over Spectre 09.01.2018 43:37
Welcome Down the Security Rabbithole. This week we bring Jeff Schilling from Armor to talk about Spectre and Meltdown - the two hottest topics of the security right now and for the foreseeable future. While you listen to us talk, check out these links: http://uproxx.com/technology/what-are-meltdown-spectre-computer-bugs-explained/ http://bgr.com/2018/01/04/intel-chip-security-flaw-how-slow-mac-p...
DtSR Episode 277 - An Outside In Look at Security and Innovation 02.01.2018 46:41
Happy New Year, 2018. Friends, thanks for listening! I can't believe this podcast is still going strong after all these years and 277 episodes. I started this podcast with an idea - give you something to listen to that was office-friendly, informative, and focused on advancing our trade. Over the years I've gotten some encouraging comments from people ranging from those trying to get int...
DtSR Episode 276 - Game Changer in ICS (no FUD edition) 26.12.2017 44:04
What: In this episode we get the facts on the recent game-changing malware/attacks that appear to be nation-state sponsored attacking critical safety systems in industrial controls (ICS). Why : You've probably read about it, and depending on what you read you may only have the hype or half the story. Who: As always, Sergio Caltagirone from Dragos is the master at telling a great story, from j...
DtSR Episode 275 - Beyond 2017 A New Hope 19.12.2017 44:08
For episode 275 we are once again joined by the one and only Haroon Meer ( @haroonmeer ) to follow up on his conversation from September 2016 titled " What will get us there ". If you've not had a chance to listen to that show, you absolutely should do that first. Haroon shares his perspective including... "The cloud has won" Fundamentals are still hard, we're still l...
DtSR Episode 274 - Let's Talk Power Grid 13.12.2017 38:51
This week, Patrick Miller returns (another boomerang guest from the way-back machine) to talk about the energy grid. It turn out, things aren't super different from 5 years ago, but some things have changed. Patrick and I discuss resiliency (over actual security) in the grid, and focus on transmission, generation, and "getting it all working again" from a life safety perspective. It...
DtSR Episode 273 - Automate or Die (w/Demisto) 05.12.2017 29:10
Join James and Rafal, one last time, live from Enfuse Conference (Las Vegas, NV) this past summer. In this episode, we track down a personal friend of Raf's - Bob Kruse, Demisto, VP Sales & Alliances, and talk about the need for the enterprise to automate and orchestrate. Oh, also, Bob pretty much said by 1 year from the recording of that episode he would get an "Automate or Die&qu...
DtSR Episode 272 - Innovation, Startups, and the Security Bubble 28.11.2017 42:33
This week, Grant and Mark join me live and in person in Las Vegas at the Amazon AWS re:Invent conference to talk about the security marketplace, innovation, "the bubble" and more. Here's the announcement we talked about at the opening of the show McAfee announces agreement to buy SkyHigh Networks: https://www.skyhighnetworks.com/mcafee-and-skyhigh/ Guests: Mark Arnold ( @lotusebha...
DtSR Episode 271 - The Secrets of Influence Through Communication 21.11.2017 45:06
This week James and I are fortunate enough to have one of the best keynote speakers I've ever seen on the show. He's an amazing speaker, a brilliant magician and a sharp dresser - this guy is the real deal. Straight off the keynote stage at the Security Advisor Alliance (SAA) Summit in Denver ... ok maybe not straight off, Vinh Giang joins us to talk about how to influence people while y...
DtSR Episode 270 - Secrets of InfoSec at Scale 15.11.2017 50:54
Ladies and gentlemen - we have our first 3-time guest! Brandon Dunlap, my good friend and industry titan, joins the podcast for his third trip down the rabbit hole. In this episode Brandon Dunlap ( @bsdunlap ) and I talk through the challenges of security at scale, in person and live from Seattle. In the previous two episodes that Brandon has done on this show we've talked about the challeng...
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