Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show. On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_Podcast On YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHq On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-securit...
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Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
DtSR Episode 319 - Striking Out On Your Own 23.10.2018 47:47
This week, my good friend and entrepreneur Rock Lambros (of the newly formed Rock Cyber) joins me to talk about getting the itch to go out on your own and actually doing it. Many of us have thought about it, daydreamed, but very few do it . So hear an episode from someone who did... Highlights of this week's show include... What motivates and drives someone to jump the safety net of corporat...
DtSR Episode 318 - War, Cyber and Policy 18.10.2018 38:19
This week the DtSR podcast tackles one of the thornier issues going around in the news. As the accusations of Russsian hacking continue to mount, international leaders are speaking out and making bold statements that impact policy on a global level. This topic needed to be addressed with some folks who have actual expertise in the matter - and with the understanding that what we have here are opin...
DtSR Episode 317 - Protecting Higher Education 09.10.2018 39:21
While James is away, Raf will podcast all day ...or something like that. Highlights from this week's show include: Bill talks about what it's like to jump into a higher education system and try and play defense We discuss the role of governance, centralized policy, and management in higher education environments Bill discusses his view on the appropriate places to work in security, in...
DtSR Episode 316 - NCSAM 2018 03.10.2018 39:12
So, it's October 2018, and it's National Cyber Security Awareness Month. Again. James and I have a bit of an issue with this, as you'd guess. Why are we still talking about awareness when we need action? Are there really people out there that are saying "If only I was aware that there are bad people trying to do bad things, I'd had done it differently"? Highlights...
DtSR Episode 315 - Women in Cybersecurity-Mary Cheney 25.09.2018 51:37
On this episode of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast, Mary Cheney joins us fresh off her talk to the North Texas ISSA Women in Security group. She has such a colorful background and such great stories to tell - we just had to have her on the show. Highlights from this week's show include... A walk-through of Mary's colorful and extremely diverse background Mary talks about burno...
DtSR Episode 314 - None of This Crap is Secure 18.09.2018 54:10
This week, on DtSR Episode 314, the infamous (that's more than famous) John Strand joins us. No, not the male model ...the guy who's been an InfoSec legend since before you could walk. Highlights from this week's show include... We take a stroll down memory lane We discuss the challenges with more complexity in development John takes us through what he thinks some of the faults ar...
DtSR Episode 313 - Cyber Law Update Sept 2018 11.09.2018 43:03
Friends welcome to yet another edition of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast - as we invite perennial favorite, Shawn Tuma onto the show! Shawn has a new office, a new law firm, and is giving us his take on what's new in the world of cyber and law. Listen in! Highlights from this week's episode include... Shawn brings up "The GDPR" and the self-imposed disaster that it...
DtSR Episode 312 - Ann Johnson on Mental Health 05.09.2018 41:58
This week Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast welcomes two very cool ladies from the InfoSec realm. First Ann Johnson of Microsoft (if you don't know Ann, you're living under a rock, honestly) is here to discuss a tweet she put out a while ago ( https://twitter.com/ajohnsocyber/status/1033934334720278528 ) on mental health in high-pressure jobs in InfoSec. If that wasn't enough,...
DtSR Episode 311 - Further the Browser 29.08.2018 39:46
This week we dive into the world of the web browser. A brief history, some discussion about what's wrong and how it's broken - and a few suggestions for what to do next. This is a complicated discussion - so you can bet we'll come back to it with your feedback! Highlights from this week's show include... A brief walk-through of the history of browsing Solutions that tried, bu...
DtSR Episode 310 - RFP POC OMG 23.08.2018 33:03
This week, Rafal & James discuss one of the bigger challenges that an enterprise security team faces today - evaluating new/replacement security tools and services. Listen close if you're on the enterprise side, and listen closer if you're selling to them. Highlights from this week's show include... We address the difficulties of evaluating or replacing technologies or service...
DtSR Episode 309 - Digital Transformation, Take 2 14.08.2018 38:24
This week Nate Smolenski - Director, Cloud Architecture Services - joins us for an insightful discussion on the concept of digital transformation for the enterprise. Many companies are undergoing a digital transformation, or have done so already, and it's up to security to once again, catch up. Nate brings a truckload of experience and evidence into the conversation and as a security professi...
DtSR Episode 308 - Theoretical and Applied Futurism 08.08.2018 45:00
Friends, this week's episode is truly unique. We talk to a gentleman whose job it is to think big, and into the future in a big way. Jeremy Nulik is the "Evangelist Prime" at Big Wide Sky - an organization that looks to think big, and solve big problems, in big ways. This is an incredible journey into problem-solving on a grand scale. Highlights from this week's show include....
DtSR Episode 307 - Building and Teaching in Chicago 01.08.2018 33:33
On this episode of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast, Rafal is in Chicago for a few days and visiting with a long-time friend and colleague, Don Donzal. Don has some great history in the Chicago hacking and security professional scene, so we take a stroll down memory lane, talk about what he's doing now, and take a long look ahead. Join us! Highlights from this week's show inclu...
DtSR Episode 306 - Balancing Family and Career 25.07.2018 46:34
This week, we tackle a topic that should not have taken 306 episodes to get to - balancing family and work while growing a career in Information Security. Britney hits the high points with us, and takes us down the road of what it's like being a mother and security leader - as we explore the topic for everyone who is in our field. Highlights from this week's show include: Who does this a...
DtSR Episode 305 - Security for the Mid-market 17.07.2018 42:48
Do you work at a company that's too big to be "small business" but too small to be "large enterprise"? You're probably in that place known as the "mid-market". Many of the large vendors don't pay attention to you, and yet you still have all of the same problems big companies do - just without all the budget. What do you do? Listen to this episode of DtS...
DtSR Episode 304 - Transforming Security 11.07.2018 41:36
This week, James and I interview a former Optiv colleague and advisor to many Fortune 250 CISOs in his long career, our friend Ron Kurisczak. Ron's long and successful career has included time spent truly transforming the way security functions, and how it's seen in the boardroom. Spend 35 minutes and hear his take on where we've been, and why right now is so crucial to our future....
DtSR Episode 303 - Advising Security Leadership 03.07.2018 38:18
Thanks to my friend Brian Wrozek for joining us this week on Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast. Brian's long career as a CISO has broken several 'typical' molds... so he's a fantastic person to join us to talk about the things CISOs should be thinking about. Highlights from this week's show include... Prioritizing projects as the CISO Getting support from the outside be...
DtSR Episode 302 - InfoSec Superhero Syndrome 26.06.2018 38:30
This week, as DtSR rolls on to Episode 302, we talk with John Svazic who is a Cloud Security Architect for a day job and runs the Purple Squad Security Podcast in his spare time. His perspective on the idea of an "infosec army of one" is one that many of us share, and it needs to be solved. Highlights from this week's show include... Trying to solve everything, on our own... burn ou...
DtSR Episode 301 - Julie Conroy on eFraud and Identity 19.06.2018 41:08
This week on Episode 301, James is off and I take a one on one conversation with Julie Conroy from Aite group on the topic of global fraud. It's a fascinating conversation that winds through the fringes and often unexplored corners of enterprise security. Check it out, and special thanks to Julie for taking the time out of her busy schedule. Highlights from this week's show include......
DtSR Episode 300 - Reminiscing 14.06.2018 54:36
Thank you, listeners! Down the Security Rabbithole has reached milestone episode #300. In this episode, James and Rafal sit down with the nothing more than an open mic and talk through topics the podcast has previously covered, and others we still have yet to cover. Join us. And a personal thank you to all of our guests over the past 300+ episodes... we are looking forward to much more great con...
DtSR Episode 299 - Leadership Lessons w Chris Abramson 05.06.2018 41:29
Special thanks to Chris for doing this in-person. It was a fun conversation and always a pleasure! Highlights from this week's show include... Chris and I talk about measuring 'risk' We discuss 'brittle systems' which apparently are still alive and kicking Risk analysis, cloud computing, and your business Guest Chris Abramson ( @cabramson50 ) - Director, Information Se...
DtSR Episode 298 - Overcoming the Language Barrier 29.05.2018 50:36
Two more episodes until we hit #300...what a crazy ride it's been! Thanks for taking the journey with us, and we're looking forward to having you along for another 300 (maybe). Highlights from this week's show include... Applications of DoD security in a non-DoD world The meaning and elements of the risk equation Understanding (making sense of) the risk equation Swimming in the sw...
DtSR Episode 297 - A Model for Prioritizing Patching Efforts 22.05.2018 48:45
Before you listen to this podcast ... go grab this report: https://www.kennasecurity.com/prioritization-to-prediction-report/ from Kenna Security and the Cyentia Institute. Read it. Think about it. Then listen to this show. Highlights from this week's show include... A high-level walkthrough of the model that authors developed, and the many interesting insights Why what you're doing...
DtSR Episode 296 - Hype Machine Off the Rails 15.05.2018 52:34
This week, former analyst and security industry veteran Adrian Sanabria joins James & Rafal to talk about some of the hype in our industry. From current events, to learning lessons, to the on-going master-class in bullsh*t we convince ourselves of - this podcast is a riveting (although slightly longer) episode of free-flowing discussion. Highlights from this week's show include... We di...
DtSR Episode 295 - DevSecOps is Not a Thing 09.05.2018 47:36
This week, Mark Nunnikhoven joins us from the great white North. All the way from Ottawa, Canada - Mark talks with James and Raf about cloud computing, DevOps, and some silly things security folks are doing to undermine themselves in the brave new world. Highlights from this week's show include... A brief discussion on moose and Canada Why none of us believe "DevSecOps" is a thing D...
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