Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show. On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_Podcast On YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHq On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-securit...
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Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
DtSR Episode 442 - S11E15 - TPA Fighting the Good Fight 13.04.2021 40:19
Prologue This week, the show is back after a brief spring break, and we have with us Dmitri Alperovitch - who has taken on a new venture in his latest role. We discuss cybersecurity policy, government's role in private enterprise defense, and why you should probably never run your own MS Exchange Server. Lots of great content from the always informative and entertaining Dmitri. Guest Dmitri A...
DtSR Episode 441 - TPA State Secrets and Diplomatic Protection 29.03.2021 43:04
Prologue ** First, before I say anything else, I want to thank Lonnie and his staff for their service to our country. Protecting diplomats is not an easy task I imagine, and being the most powerful nation on Earth, our diplomats are likely a target 24x7x365. ** This week, Lonnie Price joins me and James on the show for an intriguing talking through some very, very cool stuff. Now, this episode is...
DtSR Episode 440 - TPA Fighting Back Against ATO 23.03.2021 41:13
Prologue Account Take-Over (ATO). You've probably not given this too much thought, unless you've had your account jacked. Whether it was someone stealing your Twitter account, or your bank account, or God-forbid your Facebook - you know the ramifications are serious. But how do you identify it, prevent it, detect and respond to it, and maybe even recover from it... at scale? Rafal's...
DtSR Episode 439 - TPA Open Source Endpoint Defense 16.03.2021 41:15
Prologue OK, say it with me, defender tools suck. They all have their own dashboards, data formats, ways to look at what's going on...and that wouldn't be bad if they even remotely worked together . OSQuery isn't the end-all for endpoint tools, but it surely can tell you a whole lot about what's going on out there - and then you can actually intelligently do something . But i...
DtSR Episode 438 - TPA Implementing Zero Trust Principles 09.03.2021 47:41
Prologue This week on a very cool conversation, Rafal snags a chance to do a virtual sit-down with Yuri all the way from the Netherlands. Yuri is one of the quintessential experts on Zero Trust (not the commercial tools stuff, but principles and foundations) and you need to hear his take on how we get it implemented, where, and why. Guest Yuri Bobbert LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuribo...
DtSR Episode 437 - TPA Healthcare IT Under Siege 02.03.2021 40:44
Prologue This week, DJ McArthur joins James and Rafal to talk shop about his career in defending healthcare IT. The Cliff's Notes version is that it's more complex, more under siege, and more critical than ever. No problem, right? This episode has been a long-time coming, and DJ is an honest-to-goodness expert in the field. He teaches classes on this topic which you may just want to go a...
DtSR Episode 436 - TPA A Dev Perspective on AppSec 23.02.2021 43:53
Prologue Continuing what accidentally became a series of AppSec or Software Security focused episodes, #436 takes it from yet another direction. Rey joins us to talk about AppSec from his perspective - that of a life-long developer that's moved into software security. It's been an interesting journey, and while some of the things we discuss aren't necessarily revelations - listen fo...
DtSR Episode 435 - TPA WPScan and Wordpress 16.02.2021 36:29
Prologue Episode 435 is packed with OpenSource goodness, talking about WordPress and WPScan with Ryan Dewhurst. Ryan started WPScan (a tool you probably use as a security practitioner) and has now made a business out of it. He spends a half-hour discussing the product, his road, and Wordpress/security in general and includes some plans for the future. Guest Ryan Dewhurst LinkedIn: https://www.link...
DtSR Episode 434 - TPA Open Source Software Security 09.02.2021 43:50
Prologue This week, Jennifer Fernick of NCC Group joins me to talk about her work with open source software and security. With a storied career, Jennifer is well-qualified to talk about some really interesting topics, but finding bugs in open source software, at the scale we need it to be done, is a monumental task. If you're a developer and keen on innovation and open-source, and know secur...
DtSR Episode 433 - TPA Leading the Alliance 02.02.2021 37:08
Prologue: This week, Gary Latham joins the podcast to talk about taking the reigns of the Security Advisor Alliance, at a pivotal time for the organization. If you don't know about the SAA, I highly encourage you to check it out here: https://www.securityadvisoralliance.org/ Guest Gary Latham LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-latham-8bb62925/ Have something to say? Let's...
DtSR Episode 432 - TPA Identity and Trust 26.01.2021 40:38
Prologue On this week's episode of the podcast, boomerang guest Robb Rock joins Rafal to talk identity, trust, and what's happened since the last time Robb was on the show ( which was in 2016!). Of course they talk about the "big hack", and retreat into identity, Zero Trust, and the challenges of mid-market companies trying to do their own security. The lesson here? "The m...
DtSR Episode 431 - TPA Medical IOT 19.01.2021 37:50
Prologue This week on DtSR, an old friend Jamison Utter joins Rafal to talk about medical IoT devices, and what makes them different -- and of course, how we can better protect them. Jamison's company, Medigate , is a healthcare security and medical analytics company - and it's an interesting discussion on how this type of IoT differs from others with security implications. You'll...
DtSR Episode 430 - TPA What We Learned in 9 Years 12.01.2021 45:25
Prologue David was a guest on the podcast many years ago, back in episode 7. We had a great conversation and it's interesting to see how so many of the topics have evolved in the last nearly a decade. Or not. Guest David Elfering LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aroundomaha/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/icxc Have something to say? Let's hear it. Support the show >>> Please...
DtSR Episode 429 - YGHT Crowdsourcing Security Intel 08.01.2021 15:03
You Gotta Hear This! [YGHT] This special edition of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast is the first of it's kind. For 2021 I've decided to throw in a bonus episode here and there that doesn't necessarily fit the typical format when I find something interesting, or a topic or person worth your time. Right now, with CrowdSec is that time. Philippe Humeau is a wealth of informati...
DtSR Episode 428 - TPA TIM-enabled NextGen SOC Platforms 05.01.2021 33:43
Prologue Let's start 2021 off right with a returning guest whose name you will want to remember. Joep (pronounced like "soup" but with a "you") Gommers the founder and CEO of EclecticIQ joins Rafal to talk about threat intelligence - from platforms to TIPs, use-cases, implementations, limitations, and the move to TIM. It's a fun conversation that looks at where "...
DtSR Episode 427 - TPA Security Beyond the RegExp 29.12.2020 41:52
Prologue This week, on the last episode of 2020, Michael Coates joins Rafal to talk about wire-speed-data-protection. Sort of like CASB but more universal. Interestingly, Rafal and Michael talk through how DLP has evolved and into what, and some interesting developments along the way - then the promise of something better. Guest Michael Coates LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcoates/ Twitter...
DtSR Episode 426 - TPA Winning Intelligence Collecting Zombies 22.12.2020 45:22
Prologue First and foremost, thank you to Prevailion for giving us some of Karim's time, and content for this episode. Adversary intelligence is critical to protection and defense, so the methods and means in which it's gathered, refined, and provided back into the industry is always a great topic of discussion. I can't stress enough how much I recommend going and doing this - http...
DtSR Episode 425 - TPA Being Media Trained 15.12.2020 35:54
Prologue This week, one of my old allies in the advocacy for sane media appearance joins James and me on the podcast. We talk about being a media liaison, managing speakers and security types with lots to say and few f***s to give for the media. It's an interesting conversation if you want to hear about what your media and PR person has to go through. Guest Diana Wong LinkedIn: https://www.li...
DtSR Episode 424 - SOC Fight 2020 08.12.2020 50:23
Prologue Fill up your coffee cup, find a comfortable seat, and get ready to dive into this show! Richard & Anton join James and Rafal to discuss the SOC and it's evolution (or not) in today's enterprise. What are the major issues with SOCs today? What will the SOC of tomorrow be like? Does anyone know why Anton's hair is so nutty? These and other questions will be answered, mayb...
DtSR Episode 423 - TPA Malware and Other Bad Things 30.11.2020 45:40
Prologue This week, virtually live from Enfuse 2020 we've invited Grayson Milbourne, who is the Director of Security Intelligence at OpenText (formerly Carbonite/Webroot), to the show to talk about his work, malware, and the ever-evolving battle between good and evil'ish. This is a unique look at the intelligence, research, and innovation that goes into anti-malware tools and the arms...
DtSR Episode 422 - TPA Blurry Ethical Lines 23.11.2020 43:16
Prologue: This week is a TREAT for you Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast listeners. Before she does her keynote on the topic, you'll get to hear Tarah Wheeler's take on the graying lines of privacy, security, and ethics. Just because we can ... does that mean we should? Lots of interesting discussions, and some totally nerdy and pedantic references you'll want to listen to a few...
DtSR Episode 421 - TPA Holding the Public Ransom 16.11.2020 37:05
Prologue Welcome to week 2 of our coverage of the OpenText Enfuse conference! This week I'm super excited about two very cool guests - Brian Chidester and Tyler Moffitt. Y'all know Brian who is now officially a multi-time returning guest, and Tyler's background is pretty cool (literally, you'll know what I mean when I post the video hopefully soon). Huge thanks to OpenText for...
DtSR Episode 420 - TPA Virtually Live from Enfuse 20 Overview 09.11.2020 41:42
Prologue This week on DtSR Anthony Di Bello from OpenText drops by the show to talk about Enfuse, and the future of forensics, eDiscovery, and cyber security - and happens to let out a few details of the Enfuse 2020 conference kicking off this week. Anthony's always a great interview and of course we talk about my favorite topic lately - " convergence " of security disciplines. Join...
DtSR Episode 419 - TPA CISOs in Covid Times 03.11.2020 41:54
Prologue This week James and Rafal have the pleasure of being joined by Allan Alford, from his work-cave somewhere near Dallas, TX to talk about what we're hearing and seeing as we advise CISOs during the times that Covid brings. We discuss budgets, priorities, and "good enough" security strategy in a weird time in our industry and world. Guest Allan Alford LinkedIn: https://www.lin...
DtSR Episode 418 - TPA Another Security Inflection Point 27.10.2020 38:56
Prologue This week on DtSR, John Steven joins Rafal & James to talk about an inflection point in security that's happening right now. As you may notice, everything about security is changing, especially in the AppSec space... listen in and you'll hear John's thoughts on a very interesting time to be in the industry. Evolve, or die... Guest John Steven LinkedIn: https://www.li...
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