Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show. On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_Podcast On YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHq On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-securit...
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Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
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Oct 27, 2026
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Episodes
DtSR Episode 483 - How Not to Screw Up Your Cloud 11.01.2022 46:08
Prologue We have a repeat guest today! Mr. Mark Simos joins me once again to talk about Microsoft's Cloud Adoption Framework (CAF) and it's applicability to not only Azure, but also your other clouds. Building resilient and secure clouds isn't just about security, it's about design and architecture that adheres to good practices. Microsoft's CAF is fantastic place to start...
DtSR Episode 482 - Tales of Wireless Hacking 04.01.2022 41:27
Prologue This week, on a good start to the new year, Eric Escobar joins us to talk about hacking wireless - and a little bit of history on the topic. Taking us back to early wireless hacking where you had to have the right wireless PCMCIA card and drivers, to today where things are a little more complicated but oddly not too much has changed. Guest Eric Escobar LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/i...
DtSR Episode 481 - Spies In Your Tech 28.12.2021 37:26
Prologue Bentsi is a guy with some experience in the bad guy world when it comes to devices and gadgets getting compromised. In this episode, he tells us stories and anecdotes on things he's seen and the threats gadgets face. It's a very interesting discussion, and might just make you a little more paranoid before it's over. Guest Bentsi ben-Atar https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentsi-b...
DtSR Episode 480 - Juice Jacking 21.12.2021 40:19
Prologue Have you ever plugged your smart phone, tablet or other "smart thing" into a power cable that wasn't yours ? I'm guessing you've answered yes - and if so, you need to listen to this episode. As we travel and move around with our smart devices, we don't always have our charging cables & blocks with us, and that can lead to disaster. Hear more from Robert...
DtSR Episode 479 - Productivity of Jump Boxes and Bastion Hosts 14.12.2021 44:25
Prologue In a technically deeper episode, Ev joins Rafal to discuss how security has made productivity challenging at times, in terms of having to jump through hoops to get work done, and what we should be doing about it. Ev asks us to image an entirely new paradigm of productive access to necessary resources - so listen in and dream big with us. Guest: Ev Kontsevoy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin...
DtSR Episode 478 - Beyond Buzzwords: XDR 07.12.2021 37:35
Prologue This week's episode is one of my favorite topics - marketing buzzwords. You've all heard the term "XDR" and wondered (probably like me) what the heck it is and how it's different than EDR or MDR. Do we really need more buzzwords? Mark Alba from Anomali joins me this week to discuss this, and I think it'll help sort things out for you, it sure did for me. I&ap...
DtSR Episode 477 - Passwords are Dead and Other Fables 02.12.2021 41:50
Prologue Welcome to the last month of 2021 - December. This month we have a few bonus episodes, starting with this gem on identity. We've got a great guest and Mike Kiser has some interesting opinions he's definitely not holding back on. Thanks for listening - we hope you enjoy this episode. And special thanks to SailPoint for bringing Mike to the mic. Guest Mike Kiser LinkedIn: https://...
DtSR Episode 476 - Securing Public Cloud with Azure ASB v3 30.11.2021 44:40
Prologue Folks, the video of this episode which was live-streamed to our YouTube channel is here: https://youtu.be/IYVB_LNhURQ - and if you can, watch it. Huge mega-thanks to Microsoft and Lightstream for bringing together Jeff and Mark on this one to deliver some truly phenomenal content. This week is Azure Security Benchmark (not baseline, oops) version 3.0 hot off the presses. We talk about wha...
DtSR Episode 475 - Community Sourced Threat Instructions 23.11.2021 45:22
Prologue Fair warning y'all, this episode may have been just slightly more fun than the Surgeon General allows. That said, on this one we not only made up some new terms ("Threat Instructions", Anton) but also had some fun describing what a well-functioning system of highly automate-able threat data would look like. And as it turns out, it's CrowdSec's "Fire" dat...
DtSR Episode 474 - Unraveling Mountains of Evidence 18.11.2021 40:48
Prologue Hey! Are you attending OpenText World Enfuse? If not, click here and check it out - it's virtual! Straight from Enfuse Chuck Dodson joins Rafal & James to talk about digital evidence collection, management, and processing in the realm of law enforcement. A fascinating look at the law enforcement side of things, and a topic perspective most of us never have occasion to think about...
DtSR Episode 473 - Cyber Security by Executive Order 15.11.2021 42:52
Prologue In this episode, we host a lady who only needs one name, like a movie or rock star. But "Jax" deals with topics we normal people don't have the stomach for, like CMMC and government security. In this episode, she joins us to talk about the current Executive Order on Cybersecurity ( Executive Order 14028, May 12, 2021 - https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/17/20...
DtSR Episode 472 - Rick Howard on Trust and Tech 09.11.2021 46:57
Prologue Let me start by saying how much I enjoy chatting with Rick Howard, today's podcast guest. Rick's been on before, and we always go long (especially on this one, sorry not sorry), but the content is well worth your time. On today's episode, we chat about "Zero Trust" and where technology meets concept, what's missing, and what's next. If you think you know...
DtSR Episode 471 - TPA Threat Modeling the Software 02.11.2021 39:28
Prologue On Episode 471, as we rapidly hurl towards our 500th episode, we bring back Chris Romeo to talk about threat modeling. Specifically, we discuss threat modeling of software - with developers, methodologies, silos, incentives, and outcomes all in play for discussion. Chris has been doing this a while, and has some deep insights into what it takes to make things work - and he we welcome your...
DtSR Episode 470 - Security Leadership Insights from Ann 26.10.2021 45:51
Prologue On this episode of the DtSR Podcast - Ann Johnson joins special guest-host Ken Fishkin of NJ ISC2 chapter, along with James & Rafal to talk about leadership, and sports apparently. Thanks to the NJ Chapter of ISC2 ( https://www.linkedin.com/groups/4425593/ )for submitting questions and Ken for joining us to guest-host. On this episodes, we ask Ann to talk to us about leadership challe...
DtSR Episode 469 - YGHT They Hacked Ransomware 19.10.2021 46:11
Prologue This week on a ridiculously awesome episode of the DtSR Podcast the one and only Mr. Steve Perkins of Nubeva joins Rafal & James to talk about something worth shouting about. They've figured out how to beat ransomware... yes, there are a few 'catch' things, but the tech seems solid and the possibilities endless. Give this episode a listen, then scroll below to click the...
DtSR Episode 468 - TPA Another Journey Into Security 12.10.2021 40:53
Prologue This week, we get to meet Sean Jackson. You may not know Sean, but his journey may feel familiar. He got here much like many of you, and his story of discovery and understanding of his role in the business as "the security guy" is something you should probably know. There are many paths into our profession, and there are many different ways to view what we do - Sean's is co...
DtSR Episode 467 - TPA Chips and SLSA 05.10.2021 37:26
Prologue This week, Kim Lewandowski joins Rafal & James to talk about Google's latest contribution to the Open Source software movement - Supply-chain Levels for Software Artifacts (SLSA). We have a great conversation, and I hope you guys go watch the video (when it comes out) and check out the axe in the background. I never did find the interesting logo Kim talks about- maybe one of you...
DtSR Episode 466 - TPA Vulnerability Management Goat Rodeo 28.09.2021 39:37
Prologue This week, fresh off his Twitter rant, Travis McPeak joins Rafal to talk about the goat rodeo that vulnerability management in the enterprise. Travis talks about the multitude of reasons vulnerability management is so difficult, and what we can be done about the whole mess. Great episode, lots of great discussion and big thanks to Travis for the contribution to the topic. This needs more...
DtSR Episode 465 - TPA Nic-NAC-Security-is-Whack 21.09.2021 49:10
Prologue I have no excuses, and no ideas, how this show has made it so far without having the one and only JJ as a guest. She's been doing network security and architecture for a long time, in addition to being a force for good. Her focus on NAC (Network Access Control) shines through in this discussion too. Hilarity ensues. Guest Jennifer ("JJX") Minella LinkedIn: https://www.linke...
DtSR Episode 464 - TPA An Empowering Discussion on the Grid 14.09.2021 35:52
Prologue This week our pal and previous guest Patrick Miller joins us to talk about the power grid, current state of the thing, and what he's working on in the power generation and distribution sector. It's a strange place where 8" floppy disks and DOS 2.2 still live. Yeah, go search those, you think there's a 0-day for DOS 2.2? Guest Patrick C. Miller LinkedIn: https://www.lin...
DtSR Episode 463 - TPA Human Security Engineering 07.09.2021 39:22
Prologue This week our friend Ira Winkler joins Rafal & James to talk about the human element in cyber security. Ira, like us, absolutely loathes the phrase "stupid user" - so you'll want to hear what he's working on, and his comments on the space. Have something to say? Let's hear it. Support the show >>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the...
DtSR Episode 462 - TPA Aki Peritz on Open Source Intel 31.08.2021 42:01
Prologue With all the craziness going on in the world, from terrorism, to catastrophically botched withdraws from a 20 year war, to the incredible proliferation of ransomware, and "cyber privateering" making a comeback in the news - it's as good a time as any to discuss open source intelligence, collection, and analysis. Aki is a guy who would know a little bit of something about th...
DtSR Episode 461 - TPA Peacocking Without PCAPS 26.08.2021 27:18
Prologue Let me start off by saying that this episode isn't about politics. It's about facts, claims made, and election security facts and myths. I want to thank Rob Graham for getting on the show and sharing his experience on short notice, and providing insights from Mike Lindell's "Symposium". It's truly eye-opening, and hopefully a conversation that strikes at the...
DtSR Episode 460 - TPA About CIAM and Other Auth 23.08.2021 41:00
Prologue Thanks to Okta, for providing what is surely an entertaining (at least to record) and informative episode with some really cool guests. Bharat and John join James and Raf to talk about CIAM (a term Raf had to look up) and all things authentication history, past, and present. By the way, if you haven't registered, you should register for this very cool Okta Developer Day " Auth f...
DtSR Episode 459 - TPA A Defenders Endpoint Perspective 17.08.2021 36:01
Prologue Big thanks this week to OpenText for providing access to Fabian Franco (go check out his bio below). He joins James & Rafal to talk about protecting endpoints, and some of the interesting things that go along with state-of-the-art detection and response capabilities. Also, if you'd be so kind as to support those who keep this show going, go check out the OpenText link below and g...
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