Down the Rabbit Hole

In this little re-connection episode, Bri and Sam discuss the ebbs and flows of the creative process: what it looks like to navigate transition, creative cycles, and how to embody the artist identity, even when you are stepped away from the work. Bri shares more about how her solo travel time is impacting her creative process, while Sam shares this year's big integration of a move and how that has...

This week, we're joined by friend, creative collaborator, and wildly talented musician Hannah Wicklund , for a conversation recorded from Edinburgh, Scotland.  We celebrate the launch of her latest creative endeavor, the Strawberry Moon Tribune , a new print publication featuring contributions from Sam, Bri, and dozens of other creatives, and discuss the importance of creating spaces where artists...

In this episode, Sam and Bri go down the rabbit hole of hypervigilence as a woman, and the many facets and identities that can form because of it. They unpack the experience of hosting their Paris retreat, the contrast between American culture and European ways of living, and the tension many women feel between presence and productivity while traveling. Bri shares more about her current solo trave...

We're recording live from Ledger Studio in Paris while we prepare to lead a creative retreat, reflecting on the strange and beautiful paths that creativity can pull us down when we actually listen to it, and follow the threads. In this episode, we share a few ridiculous moments from life on the road, the unexpected places creativity has taken us, and how learning to trust your intuition can comple...

We're introducing Body Is the Blueprint, our new embodiment institute born from years of navigating the art world, questioning stability, and redefining what it means to build a sustainable creative life. In this episode, we unpack the myth of the "fragile artist," share the moments where conscious embodiment shifted our lives, and explore how learning to trust the body became the foundation for e...

This episode explores how fear is embedded into the systems that shape our lives....and who benefits from it. Sam and Bri talk about how fear influences major life transitions, creativity, relationships, influencer culture, capitalism, and even the stories we inherit from past generations. From compliance culture to codependency, we unpack how insecurity is often reinforced because it keeps us con...

In this episode of Down the Rabbit Hole , we unpack the cultural moment we're living in—and how beauty standards are never just about beauty.   From the rise of the clean girl aesthetic to the rebranding of trad wife culture, we explore how discipline, control, and obedience are being repackaged as aspirational lifestyles. What looks like "wellness," "simplicity," or "femininity" on the surface of...

In this episode of Down the Rabbit Hole , Sam and Bri spiral (naturally) from creative retreats to Parisian art history to jujitsu mats and, somehow, swords. At the heart of the conversation is their shared belief that creative retreats are not indulgent escapes — they're a return. A way to refill the creative well. A way to remember who you are outside of productivity, partnership, motherhood, pe...

This one is for the artists .  In this episode, Sam and Bri talk shop, fully and without censor, all the ebs and flows of choosing a creative life path, the highs and lows, and everything in between.  Choosing to create your own career comes with incredible freedoms, and often a total lack of structure.  The artist must not only create the art, but must become an expert at self trust, nervous syst...

In this episode, Sam and Bri unpack the collective grief and rage many women are carrying, using Renee Good's killing to name the quiet power dynamics women navigate every day. They dive into feminism, masculinity, and their privilege as white women, while also reminding listeners to look for the collective good still alive in the world. From there, heading directly into self work, emotional capac...

The rabbit hole this week explores the outrage gap we feel between men and women, the power in shifting the gaze inward, the nuance of learned helplessness, and the seductive nature of political apathy.   00:00 Welcome Back and New Beginnings 04:04 Sponsorship Woes and Podcasting Realities 10:28 Collective Gaslighting: Women's Experiences 16:15 The Outrage Gap: Men and Women's Issues 23:13 Learned...

In this light-hearted episode, Bri and Sam discuss their issue with the New Year being too pressurized, fun memories and traditions of the New Year, and how the choose to set goals. They each give each other insight to the lessons they've learned: from breaking toxic relationship patterns to leaning in to self trust as a single woman. This episode focus on taking moments of gratitude and reflectio...

We dive into the emotional weight of nostalgia, the beginnings of holiday consumerism, and the importance of creating our own traditions as an act of self love.   We share some of the grief and healing that can come with stillness and seasonal cycles, and we also attempt to give some of our Christmas traditions the credit where they're due.  

In this episode, Sam and Bri continue exploring a conversation with friend and Pelvic Floor Therapist Dr. Kayleigh. They talk about health class and the shame it implements at a young age, how the world discounts intuitive bodily sensation, and the power of diaphragmatic breathing for strength, healing and resilience. The conversation works around chronic illness and pain as they talk about their...

In this episode, we're joined by our friend and pelvic floor physical therapist, Dr. Kayleigh, and we go way down the rabbit hole on chronic conditions, the body keeping the score, and what it can look like to learn how to heal your own body from the inside out. We get radically honest about our personal medical stories: endometriosis, appendicitis, chronic constipation, and even peeing ourselves...

This week, after a brief detour into the Hamilton obsession, Bri takes us back to her former life in the New York modeling world - and the unique relationship she developed with her body along the way.   Sam shares her own experience with bodily perfection and the pressure as a dancer.   They unpack body image, identity, and the ways society shapes what we think we want.  

Can men and women really just be friends? In this conversation, Bri and Sam unpack the intricate dynamics of platonic relationships across gender lines. They explore the nuance of power imbalances between men and women, sharing personal experiences of feeling unsafe and the ways these dynamics shape our interactions… even in friendships. From the tension between genuine connection and underlying s...

In this episode we're diving into competition as women, life as recovering 'cool girls', toxic views of femininity that take a lot of dismantling.   We also share our personal icks, the creepy masks of our childhood, and we'd love to 'make men gather for wholesome reasons again'.

Sam and Bri talk about the messiness of transition, living between homes and lives, and leaning on the help you didn't have to ask for.

In this episode, Sam and Bri dive into the complex topic of severing parts of the self in order to be more palatable. They share their own experiences of shrinking various sides of themselves in order to be taken seriously in the art world, what it means to be a multidimensional human, and how specialization culture is harming our global community. They chat about how women are the real outlaws, B...

Sam and Bri talk academic rejection, career validation, burning paintings, falling studio ceilings, and wrestling the tension between deeper work and social media.

Sam and Bri discuss how they met during the early phases of their careers, a van trip out west, and imposter syndrome and its many faces.   Not without recalling a few unfortunate doctor visits, the true cost of toxic relationships, and the way we catch ourselves after we jump off a cliff.