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Double D Calling it OUT

SEASON 7 is coming...Leadership or Leadershit? Welcome to Calling it OUT, the podcast challenging the global leadership deficit. Calling it Out is the no-bullshit podcast for leaders who are done with sh*t leadership. We’re calling it, it’s leadership or it’s leadershit. Call out leadershit, Call in leadership. Let the movement begin. The impact of leadershit on the everyday is an instant energy suck that has long term ramifications. In each episode of Season 7 with our guests we share our coaching approach of from stuck to solve to simplify to thrive.

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Feb 24, 2026

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Episodes

#128 Stephanie Harrison The burden of helping in a world that won't help back 24.02.2026

When the world demands you disconnect, what if helping others is the only way back to yourself? Stephanie Harrison returns to explore why New Happy feels more urgent than ever. In a world where systems don't have our best interests at heart, she argues that we have each other and that might be enough. The conversation moves through the challenge of holding ideals while knowing your actions feel in...

#127 Jon Dutton : Chain Reaction, what British Cycling teaches us about leading when everyone’s watching 09.02.2026

From Olympic podiums to local bike lanes, Jon Dutton unpacks the joy, pressure, and purpose behind leading a sport that half the UK now touches. In this episode of the and. Double D podcast, Dave Evans and Debbie Halls-Evans speak with Jon Dutton , CEO of British Cycling. With nearly half of the UK’s adult population riding a bike at least once last year, Jon shares what it really means to lead a...

#126 Dominic Colenso The Actor, The Algorithm, and The Awkward Presentation 05.01.2026

In this episode of and. Double D , Dave and Debbie speak with actor-turned-communication-expert Dominic Colenso , exploring the journey from starring in Thunderbirds to becoming a renowned coach, speaker, and author of Cut Through . We discuss the power of performance skills beyond the stage, the neuroscience of communication, and how to reduce complexity to land messages with real impact. Dominic...

# 125 Erin Fletter What if the mess is where the magic is? 09.12.2025

Founder of Sticky Fingers Cooking® Erin Fletter serves up a deliciously honest conversation on failure, flavour, and feeding the future. What if leadership looked less like order and more like creativity, chaos, and courage? In this episode, Dave Evans and Debbie Halls-Evans stir things up with Erin Fletter , founder of Sticky Fingers Cooking®, a revolutionary US-based children's cooking school. W...

#124 Rudy Gestede Mediocre Career, Maximum Clarity? 13.08.2025

He played in the Premier League. He calls his career mediocre. Now that’s leadership. Rudy Gestede went from global footballer to the boardroom with zero ego and a work ethic built on grit, faith, and no backup plan . He’s not here to impress you. He’s here to challenge everything you think leadership looks like. How do you lead when your body gives up before your ambition does? In this no-frills...

#123. Eboni Usoro-Brown. 117 caps. Zero ego. One hell of a story. 06.08.2025

She didn’t just play for England. She bled for it. Netball star turned litigator Eboni Usoro-Brown drops the truth about legacy, leadership, and why knowing your values is your ultimate power move. What happens when elite sport ends and “real life” begins? In this raw, unscripted episode, Dave and Debbie sit down with Eboni Usoro-Brown—former England netball champion, Gold Coast gold medallist, co...

#122 Sherilyn Shackell Still leading like it’s 1994? You’re the problem. 30.07.2025

Burn the Old Playbook, ttill leading like it’s 1994? You’re the problem. Sherilyn Shackell built a global movement to fix leadership from the inside out. She’s here to call out ego, expose the rot, and torch the outdated crap that’s still infecting your company culture. This isn’t inspiration. It’s demolition. Sherilyn Shackell, founder of The Marketing Academy, joins Dave and Debbie for a blister...

#121 Greig Laidlaw What if giving someone more power makes them worse? 25.07.2025

He led Scotland. Now he’s building better leaders one brutal truth at a time. From test matches to Tokyo Bay, Greig Laidlaw shares what leadership really looks like when ego’s out, pressure’s on, and you’ve got no place to hide. What happens when the armband comes off and the clipboard goes on? Former Scotland captain Greig Laidlaw has seen leadership from every angle: on the pitch, in the locker...

#120 Ego-led leadership is killing performance. Here’s the antidote. 22.07.2025

What if the real problem isn’t bad leadership it's all the fake stuff pretending to be good? From boardrooms to footballs inner circles, Chris Brindley MBE is done with the fluff. This is leadership stripped back no ego, no buzzwords, no PowerPoint charisma. In this straight-talking episode, Dave Evans sits down with Chris Brindley MBE , a titan of both sport and business, to unpick what true...

#119 What if you’re solving the wrong problem? 22.03.2025

What if you’re solving the wrong problem? Season 6 | Guest: Dan Bennett – Storytelling Strategist, Senior Partner & Lead of Behavioural Science at Ogilvy Consulting What if your biggest business problem isn’t the problem—but how you’re talking (or not talking) about it? In this episode, we’re joined by Dan Bennett , a master of story, simplicity, and solving through conversation. With his back...

#118 What happens when you never stop becoming? Jamie Jones-Buchanan 17.02.2025

In this episode, Dave Evans and Debbie Halls Evans sit down with Jamie Jones-Buchanan , former Leeds Rhinos Rugby League star and now the Director of Culture, Diversity, and Inclusion at the club. Jamie shares his remarkable journey from a working-class upbringing to winning seven Grand Finals and now shaping the next generation through leadership, diversity, and inclusion. From discussing faith,...

#117 What happens when you rebel against the ordinary? 08.02.2025

Why is leadership in crisis? In this episode of the podcast, Dave Evans and Debbie Halls Evans sit down with James Eder, a serial entrepreneur, leadership advocate and passionate believer in living with intention. From co-founding Student Beans to navigating life with a heart condition, James shares how leadership, action and resilience are central to making the most of every opportunity. Together...

#116 How do you stay in the game when the rules change? 31.01.2025

Mindset, sacrifice, and life after football with Matt Jarvis 
In this  episode of and Double D, Matt Jarvis, former Premier League and England international footballer, sits down with Dave and Debbie to share his journey on and off the pitch. From representing England at Wembley to navigating the challenges of retirement, Matt reflects on the lessons that football taught him about resilience, lead...

#115 How do you find the blindingly obvious? 17.01.2025

In this fun episode of and Double D , hosts Dave and Debbie sit down with the hilarious and insightful David Taylor, author of The Naked Leader . Together, they unpack the myths of leadership, challenge corporate norms, andredefine success. 💡 Key moments include : The radical power of a blank flip chartHow to embrace failure, take risks, and focus onoutcomes Why the comfort zone is a myth and how...

#114 Ripple effects. The quiet power of individual impact. 10.01.2025

In this thought-provoking episode of and Double D , hosts Dave Evans and Debbie Halls-Evans sit down with the transformative Alex Belisle-Springer. Together, they navigate the power of language, the courage to self-correct, and the beauty of embracing discomfort. From redefining curiosity to exploring human equity through tartans, this conversation is a masterclass in connection and authenticity....

#113 Are you letting the calendar decide your life? 31.12.2024

#113 Bending reality is about vision, not deadlines. This episode asks what if reality isn’t as rigid as you’ve been led to believe? In this mind-bending episode the transformational coach and bestselling author Victoria Song how to uncover the secrets behind her groundbreaking book, Bending Reality.  Together, they explore the art of making the impossible probable, why fear is a hidden superpower...

#112 Can an architect design your emotions? 19.12.2024

Gareth Dauncy on Building Emotional Freedom In this episode of  and Double D , we sit down with Gareth Dauncy, architect and creator of the mood App , to uncover how the art of design can transform emotional well-being. What if your emotions were like the tides—shifting, flowing, and endlessly dynamic? From the quiet beauty of his coastal life in Cardigan to the innovative concepts behind Mood, Ga...

#111 What if happiness isn’t what you think it is? 13.12.2024

What if the way we’ve been taught to chase happiness is actually making us miserable? In this episode, we sit down with Stephanie Harrison, founder of  The New Happy,  to unpack why our cultural obsession with achievement, perfection, and self-focus is breaking us—and what we can do about it. Stephanie doesn’t just challenge the traditional idea of happiness—she flips it on its head. Backed by ove...

#110 What’s fun got to do with it? (Everything) 06.12.2024

What if your business could be fun, fulfilling, and wildly successful—all at the same time? In this episode of Double D, Do Business , we sit down with Simon Severino, the mastermind behind the Strategy Sprints method, to uncover how coaches and entrepreneurs can break free from the feast-or-famine cycle and build a sustainable, thriving business. Simon takes us on a no-fluff journey through his p...

#109 Are you telling the story of you? 29.11.2024

In this episode of Double D , Dave Evans and Debbie Halls-Evans dive into the colourful world of Anna Campbell Jones — https://annacampbelljones.com/ Anna is a celebrated TV presenter, interior designer, and creative powerhouse. Known for her role in Scotland's Home of the Year and her trailblazing work in sustainability and design, Anna opens up about her journey from a rebellious teenager to one...

#108 Work sucks (or does it?) 22.11.2024

Tim Duggan’s Radical Guide to Taking Back Your Life Burnout, Balance, and Bold Moves—Discover How to Redefine Success and Start Living on Purpose In this episode of Double D , Dave Evans and Debbie Halls-Evans welcome Tim Duggan , an acclaimed author and optimist, for an insightful conversation about rethinking work, life, and balance. The trio dive deep into Tim’s latest book, Work Backwards , wh...

The Book- leadership or leadershit? 07.10.2024

Written and Narrated by Dave Evans Dive into the speed read of Leadership or Leadershit —think of it as the "Blinkist" version, distilled into under 44 minutes of sharp insights. If you're short on time or just prefer listening, Dave gives you the essence of the whole book in a digestible, podcast-style format. Perfect for leaders on the go who want the core message without missing any impactful t...

#107 Finale- Leadership or Leadershit? Speed Read and summary 30.07.2024

This is it the finale of Season 5. We wrap up the season using the Speed Read part of the book. Season 5 is all about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Leadership or Leadershit.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ending the season summarising at speed and tangents of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leadership or Leadershit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ . The book is built around eight faces of leadership or leadershit, and we explore each one, our interpretation, experiences and thoughts. We aim to g...

#106 Season 5 Leadership or Leadershit? Reality or Illusion? 30.07.2024

This is the final chapter (face) of the book. Penultimate episode of Season 5. Season 5 is all about ⁠⁠⁠⁠  Leadership or Leadershit.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Let's be honest: We've all encountered some great leaders and some terrible ones the leadershit. Sadly, our experience has been that there are more leadershit than the leadership we all want to work with. We can also be blind or do not know how to move...

#105 Leadership or Leadershit Evolution or Revolution 30.07.2024

Season 5 is all about ⁠⁠⁠  Leadership or Leadershit.  ⁠⁠⁠ Let's be honest: We've all encountered some great leaders and some terrible ones the leadershit. Sadly, our experience has been that there are more leadershit than the leadership we all want to work with. We can also be blind or do not know how to move our leadership from leadershit we've all done it at some point in our careers...

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