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Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome back Kayla Jentes to walk through the rest of the Sodom and Gomorrah judgment. We end up talking a great deal about Lot's character, his relationship to God and his actions while fleeing the city that he had lived in with his family. We also discuss the wrath of God being poured out upon Sodom and Gomorrah (as well as the cities of the plains) as God...

Host Dave Lester preached about the meaning of life and the Garden of Eden at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on May 31, 2026. Church website: https://ckpres.org/ Sources Used for this Episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham *Biologos article: "What is the Relationship Between the Creation Accounts in...

Co-Hosts Dave Lester and Mike Mason are joined again by Kayla Jentes to walk through the Sodom and Gomorrah account in Genesis 19. Going long because the chapter is so filled with information, the trio only explored through verse 11. They talk about the 2 angels visiting Sodom and Lot's hospitality. They also discuss the mob that forms outside of Lot's house that is threatening to do horri...

Theologian and chiropractor Kayla Jentes joins Dave and Mike to discuss Genesis 18. We talk about the 3 strangers that came to visit Abraham and Sarah where the couple performs radical acts of hospitality. We also chat about Sarah's famous laugh from the tent and everything that means given what we know about her from the Biblical text. Finally, we dive deep into Abraham bargaining with God over t...

Everything you wanted to know about circumcision but were afraid to ask. Co-hosts Dave Lester and Mike Mason welcome guest, Pastor Jeffrey Prager, to walk through perhaps the pinnacle of the Abrahamic Covenant in Genesis 17. God says the sign of the covenant will be circumcision for the males. While visiting Abram (who changes to Abraham), God promises a son with Sarai (who changes to Sarah) named...

Author Liz Charlotte Grant joins the podcast to discuss the account of Hagar in Genesis 16. We dive deep into Hagar's abuse at the hands of Abram and Sarai, her fleeing into the desert and her encounter with the Angel of the Lord. Liz Charlotte Grant also talks about her debut book "Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible". Get a copy of Liz Charlotte...

Reuben Lester returns! Host Dave Lester and his son talk about Christmas memories, their favorites Christmas songs and movies and the birth of Jesus. They read from the Gospel of Matthew and Luke. Sources used for this Episode: *The NIrV Adventure Bible for Early Readers. Published by ZonderKidz Opening Music: Holly Jolly Christmas by Burt Ives Other Music Used: He Shall Reign Forevermore by Matt...

This is a sermon host Dave Lester preached at Central Valley Presbyterian Church on November 23rd, 2025. He speaks on the closing credits of Philippians 4:10-20 including the Apostle Paul's contentment in all circumstances and his statement about how believers can do all things through Him who strengthens us- a profound verse that has been abused. Website for the church: https://ckpres.org/ So...

Host Dave Lester and his friend Mike Mason are joined by Laura Pugh- a wife, a mother, a teacher and an advocate for the least of these- to talk about Genesis 15:12-21. The first half of Genesis 15 involved a beautiful vision of Abram's descendants being as numerous as the night time sky. Now comes a disturbing prophetic dream of Abram's descendants being enslaved in Egypt for 400 years. O...

Dave Lester is joined by authors Billie Hoard (a previous guest on the "Drunk and Naked Noah" episode) and Dr. Paul Hoard (his literal neighbor down the street) to chat about their new book: "Eucontamination: Digust Theology and the Christian Life". The book is an intersection between theological and psychological ideas and is super fascinating, contains many CS Lewis quotes an...

Host Dave Lester talks about the horrific murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. He also plays Charlie Kirk's ugly comments regarding race, DEI, affirmative action and more that have been called out by many people including the black community and black pastors. Analysis is offered regarding those comments. Furthermore, Dave discusses Kirk's comments about Taylor Swift's engagem...

Host Dave Lester is joined again by long time friend, Mike Mason, to discuss Genesis chapter 15:1-11. We chat about Abram challenging God over his childless status. Then God makes a huge promise to Abram while ushering him outside on a clear night. The promise: Abram's descendants would be as numerous as the stars in the sky. Also talked about his acts of faith producing declarations of righteousn...

On this special episode, host Dave Lester discusses the religious impulse in humanity to create sacred Scriptures (documents that human beings for a very long time have considered inspired by God). From that foundation, Dave gives a general survey as to when the books of the Bible were written and talks about the process leading up to their canonization and then transmission down through the ages....

Having quite the challenging year, host Dave Lester shares about his cancer diagnosis and his journey (so far) this year. He also shares some reflections about faith and a Bible passage in Acts 17 that he has thought about. Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong

On this special episode of the podcast, host Dave Lester discusses 3 author's thoughts and views of the Bible. Sources used for this episode: *The Bible by Karen Armstrong *The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God: Why New Atheism Grew Old and Secular Thinkers are Considering Christianity Again by Justin Brierley *Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to the Women of the Torah and the Throne by Wi...

On this special episode, Dave Lester is joined by his son, Reuben! There is talk of favorite Bible stories, what kinds of Bibles Reuben reads and his favorite verse. It was so much fun! Sources used for this episode: *The NIrV Adventure Bible for Early Readers by Lawrence O Richards *The Action Bible: God's Redemptive Story by Sergio Cariello and David C. Cook *The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in...

Host Dave Lester is joined by his friend and former pastor, Brent Rood, to discuss the Lot kidnapping situation and Abram springing into action for the rescue. Abram leads 318 men on a daring night time raid against kings and their armies around the Dead Sea. Brent also discusses his background in fundamentalism and his views of the Bible. Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commen...

Dave Lester is again joined by Mike Mason and they explore the strange text of Genesis 14 which involves two different alliances of kings going to war with one another around the Dead Sea. And then there are tar pits! And Lot is kidnapped! Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP...

This episode is a sermon that Dave Lester preached at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on April 27th, 2025. The message was on Exodus 15:1-6 which is an ancient song that Israelites sang after being delivered from slavery in Egypt and crossing the Red Sea. Website for the church: https://ckpres.org/ Sources used for this message: *The NIV Application Commentary: Exodus by Peter Enns *Word Biblic...

In this special episode, Dave Lester talks about Dr. Bart Ehrman's book "How Jesus Became God" which he is currently reading (at the time of recording). He gives a brief bio of Dr. Ehrman and engages his ideas about Jesus' deity and resurrection. Sources used for this episode: *How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee by Bart D. Ehrman Opening Music:...

On this special episode, Dave Lester shares a reflection that he gave on Good Friday at his church (Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church). It was a reflection that was part of a larger presentation remembering Jesus Christ's death on the cruel cross. The reflection was based on Matthew 26:47-52 where Judas Iscariot leads a group of Roman soldiers to arrest Jesus and one of Jesus' companions...

Abram and Lot officially separate with Lot moving eastward toward Sodom and Gomorrah and Abram staying within the promised land. Mike Mason joins me to discuss the conflict between Abram and Lot and some geography in this ancient Biblical land. Special thanks to AD Riddle for insight he provided to Mike Mason for this episode. Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis...

Dave preached a sermon at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on January 26, 2025 out of Exodus 2:15-25. Info on Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church: https://ckpres.org/ Sources used for the sermon: *Word Biblical Commentary: Exodus by John I. Durham *The JPS Torah Commentary: Exodus by Nahum Sarna *The NIV Application Commentary: Exodus by Peter Enns Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Lo...

Returning guest Mike Mason and I talk about Abram, Sarai, Lot and their caravan coming back up out of Egypt to the promised land. There is a dispute between Abram and Lot which leads an amicable separation. Go to the right! Go to the left! Or vice versa! Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. W...

Host Dave Lester shares a Christmas reflection for the season of 2024 while quoting from the final book by Rachel Held Evans called "Wholehearted Faith". Sources used for this episode: *Wholehearted Faith by Rachel Held Evans (with Jeff Chu) Opening Music: "The Gift of St. Cecilia" Jars of Clay from their album "Christmas Songs"