Holy Culture
Doc Watson and Trig: The Inside View
From concepts to companies …. How do you take a project from $500 to $500k in revenue? How do you take a label from nowhere to 200 songs and 80 million streams in a year? How do you do both while remaining focused on God and Kingdom Building? From concepts to companies, Doc Watson (Jacob Makaish), Co-CEO of Reflection Music Group and Trig (James Rosseau, Sr.), CEO of Holy Culture, come together to share their long-standing relationship, as well as their individual and interwoven journeys through CHH. More importantly, they share their collective experiences with the intent of helping others...
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Episodes
Episode 18: Collaborations 09.12.2025 18:23
On the latest episode of the Inside View, Doc Watson and James Rosseau aka Trig, sits down with Derek Minor and Canon for a powerful, unfiltered conversation about music, ministry, and the business behind both. They break down what truly makes a great collaboration—chemistry, trust, and the willingness to learn from each other. The trio opens up about creative burnout, evolving seasons, mental hea...
Episode 17: Financial Literacy for Artists 29.10.2025 56:43
In this episode of The Inside View, James Rosseau Sr. (Trig) and Doc Watson, co-CEO of Reflection Music Group, explore the importance of financial literacy for artists. They reveal how lack of business knowledge—bad deals, overspending, and poor tax habits—can limit long-term success. Doc explains how setting up an LLC, managing publishing, and understanding ownership are key to financial stabilit...
Episode 16: The Evolution of CHH 06.10.2025 1:11:20
In this episode of The Inside View, we explore the evolution of Christian Hip Hop—from early pioneers like Cross Movement, Gospel Gangstaz, and Tunnel Rats to today’s new generation shaping the culture. The conversation covers first encounters with CHH, the balance between gospel clarity and artistry, the shift from theological depth to clout-driven competition, and how social media, streaming, an...
Episode 15: Touring Smarter Not Harder 05.09.2025 41:59
In this conversation of the Inside View James Rosseau Sr. aka Trig, and Doc Watson discuss the complexities of the music industry, particularly focusing on the financial aspects of touring, the importance of genuine fan engagement, and the challenges artists face in maintaining relevance. They emphasize the need for artists to build deeper connections with their audience, understand their metrics,...
Episode 14: Faith & Business Non-Negotiables 12.08.2025 54:05
Join Doc Watson & Trig as they delve into the intricate balance between faith and business in the music industry. Discover the non-negotiables that guide industry leaders in maintaining integrity while pursuing success. From the importance of ownership to the dynamics of record labels, this episode offers valuable insights for artists and entrepreneurs alike. Don't miss out on this enlightening di...
Episode 13: Difference Pre & Post Pandemic 02.07.2025 13:09
On this episode of The Inside View, host James Rosseau Sr. aka Trig is joined by Doc Watson to discuss the evolving expectations for artists in today's music industry. They explore the importance of content creation, the impact of AI and virtual experiences post-pandemic, and the critical role of live performances in building genuine fan connections. Doc Watson shares his perspective on the challe...
Episode 12: Publishing & Licensing 03.06.2025 22:10
In this episode, we delve deep into the complexities of music publishing with an industry expert. The discussion covers the origins of music publishing, the evolution of the industry, and the various types of royalties involved. Key topics include the role of administration in collecting royalties, the importance of registering songs and splits, and the challenges artists face in the modern landsc...
Episode 11: Project Planning & Strategy 04.05.2025 15:51
In this installment of The Inside View with Doc Watson & Trig, the conversation delves into the evolution of project planning and strategy in the music industry, especially from a producer's standpoint. They discuss the initiation and development of new artist relationships, balancing production responsibilities, and the impact of personal compatibility on professional collaborations. The dialogue...
Episode 10: Independent or Label? Key Considerations For Emerging Artists 01.05.2025 4:47
Independent or Label: Key Considerations for Emerging Artists In this episode, we discuss essential factors for artists deciding between staying independent or signing with a label. We explore the benefits of starting independently, crucial metrics indicating the right time to seek a label, and the importance of owning your catalog. Additionally, we offer advice on the proactive steps artists shou...
Episode 9: How To Get Your Music Heard 29.04.2025 29:28
James Rosseau (aka Trig) and Doc Watson, a veteran in the Christian hip-hop (CHH) industry, discuss various aspects of the industry, including the evolution of content creation and its impact on music consumption pre- and post-pandemic. Doc Watson shares insights on the challenges and opportunities for artists, highlighting the significance of authenticity and live performances in building a fanba...
Episode 8: Marketing Your Music 28.04.2025 17:04
In this episode, we delve into the fast-paced world of Christian Hip Hop (CHH) where approximately 40 new songs are released every week. We discuss the challenges of getting on editorial playlists, the role of major platforms like Apple and Spotify, and how they select tracks. The conversation highlights the importance of having industry insiders who understand the game and the new opportunities f...
Episode 7: The A&R Process 04.08.2020 1:00:15
The A&R (Artist and Repertoire) process can be daunting. Doc and Trig break down the different components of the process, discuss the give and takes between the artist and the label, along with key considerations that artists should have as they approach a deal. Special gues Byron Juane joins and shares his experiences too! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 6: Music Publishing and Licensing 09.06.2020 55:45
How critical is publishing and licensing and how do you do it? If you plan to have a successful career as an artist, you need to find out! In this episode, Doc and Trig are joining by Lynn Lowe, President of Music Services where they have managed the catalogs for more than 250 companies including Reach Records, Goatee Records, Clear Sight Music, Spring Hill Records and more. Throughout they have h...
Episode 5: Doc Watson meets "Bristol Poppins" 27.05.2020 28:33
The key to longevity in any business is sustainability and momentum. In the music industry that comes down to catalog power. To build that, one cannot go it alone. We discuss the importance of building a team, what some of those roles are, the trade-offs, and what typically holds people back from doing so. Doc also gives counsel to our hypothetical artist, “Bristol Poppins,” who aspires to become...
Episode 4: Growing Pains … Establishing the “Blueprint” 11.05.2020 24:22
How do you handle the various stages of business growth, stabilizing a company, building a team and shifting from founder/owner to CEO and team-leader? When you’re growing your venture in the public eye, many see the climb, but not the journey. Entrepreneurship can be filled with the weight of “carving a new groove in the wood,” bouts of loneliness, the fear of failure, and a barrage of key decisi...
Episode 3: Making Marketing Matter 28.04.2020 16:51
Doc has had his share of experiences after driving nearly $500,000 of revenue from the Redemption release with a minimal budget. He and Trig discuss marketing strategy and ways to optimize spending. They go in-depth relative to understanding consumer behavior and what drives better online conversion and what things are sub-optimal). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 2: Launching Reflection Music Group 15.04.2020 15:45
At the time of this recording, in 2019 alone, Reflection Music Group overall had put on 200 songs and had amassed 80 million streams, but this didn’t happen overnight. Doc shares some of the insights on how they launched (in 2009) and run Reflection Music Group, which has five artists. He explains the concept behind Amplify, which helps veteran artists continue to expand their platform through dis...
Episode 1: History, Relationships, and the Foundation 30.03.2020 30:44
Doc Watson and Trig kick off the interview and discuss how their relationship started. Further, Doc shares his transition from the military to music production, mixtape, events, selling tracks, radio, his migration to Christian Hip-Hop, joining forces with Derek Minor (formerly known as Pro) and the birth of Christlike Entertainment (now Reflection Music Group). Trig shares his journey in secular...
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