Nicole M. Quallen & Natalie M. Christley

Divorced People

Society EN ↓ 23 episodes

Why is divorce one of the remaining taboo topics in our increasingly outspoken culture? Why can’t we speak more openly about something that happens to half of our legal unions? Why do some couples divorce and some not? Can you predict if you are headed there? And why are we so damn judgey of divorced people? Let’s pull back the curtain and talk about it. Nicole Quallen, divorced person and divorce attorney, will be your host. Nicole has been asking all the questions about divorce since she went through her first one in 2009, and she’s just getting started. Nicole works as a collaborative divor...

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Nicole M. Quallen & Natalie M. Christley

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Society

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divorcedpeople.podbean.com

Latest episode

Jan 13, 2026

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Episodes

Nik + Nat Chat About Oona Metz 13.01.2026

Nicole + Natalie chat about the first episode of Season 3 with Oona Metz. They discuss her support groups, the thoughts on statistics for women in divorce, breaking the stigma around divorce or being twice divorced, and so much more! 

Season 3, Episode 1: Oona Metz- Supporting the Unhitched 13.01.2026

Welcome to Season 3 of Divorced People Podcast! We are starting our season off with Oona Metz, therapist, author, & twice divorced person. Oona is releasing a new book, Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women, comes out TODAY and we are thrilled to be able to be a small part of her journey in sharing this book with the world. Oona discusses the world of divorce specifically to women a...

Nik + Nat Chat About Heather Anne 09.01.2026

Nik + Nat Chat about the Heather Anne Interview and their thoughts on how Heather processed her divorce, healed, and the things she learned about herself during this transformation. Heather used her art to heal and physically process her divorce. She is a fierce warrior in breaking the stigma of divorce and that lesson that so many women learn as little girls, to just stay quiet and put up with co...

Season 2, Episode 8: Heather Anne- Truth Telling as Divorce Alchemy 08.01.2026

This is our final episode of season 2! It's been truly magical and special for us to produce this season, interview our guests who have been so open and willing to share a glimpse into their story, and connect with our listeners and hear how much each episode means to them. Heather Anne's episode is a perfect way to end the season. She is an artist who shows us healing and strength in her unique a...

Nik + Nat Chat About the Kelly Sundberg Interview 20.09.2025

If you enjoyed the Kelly Sundberg interview, take a listen to our debrief episode where Nicole and I discuss our favorite and most meaningful parts of her story. I read her Goodbye, Sweet Girl memoir and Nicole read her latest book that just came out a couple weeks ago, The Answer is in the Wound. We discuss both books and what stood out to us the most in each story. Her story is truly a story of...

Season 2, Episode 7: Kelly Sundberg- What Healing Feels Like Years Later 19.09.2025

This episode is so important, we couldn't wait a month to post it. Kelly Sundberg is an author and survivor of Domestic Abuse. Her memoir, Goodbye, Sweet Girl, broke our hearts and her newest book, The Answer is in the Wound, sewed it back together. Kelly is such a powerful writer and survivor. She tells her story of her marriage and divorce and doesn't hold back. We strongly suggest reading BOTH...

Nik & Nat Chat About the Laura Richards Interview 05.09.2025

Nik & Nat Chat about our latest episode, Laura Richards: Surviving & Thriving After Narcissistic Abuse. Make sure you listen to her interview first then come back here to take a deep dive into the episode and the lessons we learned!

Season 2, Episode 6: Laura Richards- Surviving & Thriving After Narcissistic Abuse 04.09.2025

Narcissism. A buzz word that swarms social media and is the topic of many funny reels, but in reality, it's a form of abuse that so many people live with. Whether it's your partner, your parent, or another family member or loved one, it's very real and very painful. In this episode, Nicole interviews Laura Richards. She is the host of That's Where I'm At Podcast, author of Married to a Nice Guy: G...

Bonus Episode: Nik & Nat Chat About Collaborative Divorce 27.08.2025

What is Collaborative Divorce and how is it different from Litigation? Nik & Nat spent some time chatting the other day about what Collaborative Law is and what it is they do all day at Two Families Law with their clients! Collaborative is a great option for people who want to have a more peaceful divorce, focus on their kids well-being, save money, and many other things.

Season 2, Episode 5: Anna Howerton- Prince Charming is Great, but Not Always Your Forever 05.08.2025

Not all divorce comes from a big trauma. Sometimes divorce comes from one or both spouses saying, “hey, I’m not happy/satisfied/fulfilled, and I want a divorce.” Anna’s story is just that. She thought her spouse was great and a good person, but their marriage didn’t fulfill her needs. They were two different people with different goals and love languages, and she needed to feel prioritized and lov...

Season 2, Episode 4: Lauren Stevens- Finding Her Inner Joy & Worth 24.06.2025

Lauren Stevens is a single mom, business owner, survivor, and badass. She took a huge leap of faith and quit her job, divorced her abuser, sold her home, and put everything she had into building Joy Worthy Co. Joy Worthy is an event rental space and creative workshop where she hosts paint pours, cooking classes, charcuterie making, holiday themed events, birthday parties, and more! She wanted a pl...

Season 2, Episode 3: Olivia Howell- Emotional Abuse, Enough is Enough 30.05.2025

Olivia Dreizen Howell is the joyful and dynamic CEO of Fresh Starts Registry and the host of the Divorce Happens Podcast. She is a powerful single mother and a survivor of emotional and psychological violence during her marriage. In this episode, Olivia shares what it was like growing up as a child of divorce and into her own divorce story. She has a beautiful village supporting her and her two sm...

Season 2, Episode 2: Dr. Brian Mackey on What Your Kid Really Needs in Divorce 23.04.2025

In my day job as a collaborative divorce lawyer, one of our most magical tools in our non-violent toolbox is a neutral, skillful, well-trained child psychologist. And Dr. Brian Mackey is the very best. Brian is a divorced dad, a new-ish step-dad, the owner of a booming child psych practice in NC (3-C Family Services), and an expert in representing children's interests in divorce. He meets with the...

Season 2, Episode 1: Jen Berlingo and her Magical, Queer, Midlife Emergence 19.01.2025

Jen Berlingo is a coach, a writer, an artist, a mother, a trained therapist, and an intuitive being. Her story is so intricate and beautiful.  As she writes about in her book, Midlife Emergence, Jen reached her 40s, married to a man that she loved, and felt an undeniable call to end her marriage to further pursue her queer identity and love with a woman. The way that Jen is able to hold love and t...

Episode 8: Sarah Armstrong's Good Divorce and Really Centering the Kids 12.08.2024

Sarah Armstrong has remained dedicated to having a "good divorce," for the sake of her daughter and her own peace. Her book, "The Mom's Guide to a Good Divorce" is a brilliantly organized and digestible handbook of the mantras, tips, and focus points that have helped her to co-parent her child to young adulthood with peace, stability, and care.   Please enjoy this final episode of the inaugural se...

Ep 7: Laura Phoenix: Healed and Healing, Somatic Experiencing in Divorce and Elsewhere 26.06.2024

Laura Phoenix is a treasured friend, practitioner, teacher, and role model for our host, NQ. This episode just begins to scratch the surface of the wisdom that Laura has gained through her abusive marriage, merciful divorce, healing journey, and through her current work as a somatic experiencing practitioner (and much more, of course).  Please enjoy the conversation, share widely, and reach out wi...

Ep. 6 Rebecca Feinglos: Grief Guru and the Power of Feeling it All 16.01.2024

Rebecca Feinglos is bringing grief guidance to the masses. After losing her father and her marriage in the early days of COVID, Rebecca boldly took a year off of her work in NC government and policy, declaring the time her much-needed and deserved "grieve leave." And she's been thinking, writing, and sharing about the topic of grief ever since. I have been hearing the word grief more and more each...

Ep. 5 Kamara Thomas: Let It All Fall Apart 17.08.2023

Kamara Thomas is a wise wise woman. A true artist and mother, tarot reader and playright, Virgo queen and now, a divorced person. This episode is spiritual sustenance and food for your faith muscles. Faith in yourself, faith in a healing spirit, and faith in humanity. Kamara shares the story of knowing it was time to end her toxic marriage, working through a cancer diagnosis during her separation,...

Ep. 4 Sam Falk and Rain Henderson: Take Care of Your Self 17.07.2023

Samantha Falk is a divorced person, co-parent, and communications professional. Sam's divorce began about 7 years ago, with an acute incident you'll hear about in the episode. An instinct to protect her children from verbal violence led Sam to divorce, and it was not a short or easy process. These days Sam is still working to protect her teenage sons, enjoying a happy and new second marriage, and...

Ep. 3 Heather Gray: When the Math Doesn’t Math Anymore 28.05.2023

Heather Gray is about 6 years past her divorce. She has brilliant clarity on why it was the right call, how to do better in her second marriage, and the worst part of it all (not seeing her kids all the time). There was no wild infidelity, no dramatic addiction, none of the storylines we like to see as 'excuses' for divorce, but for Heather the math just didn't add up anymore for what the marriage...

Ep. 2 Maggie Smith: Honesty, Integrity, and Endurance in the Messy Middle 17.04.2023

Poet, and now memoirist, Maggie Smith has made the messy middle of her divorce into a stunning and captivating piece of art: You Could Make This Place Beautiful, her newest book. Maggie's marriage began its formal ending in 2018, and she has been processing the experience in so many ways, including some of my favorite writings on the topic. (I give her book "Keep Moving" to loads of new clients wh...

Ep.1 Karen McMahon: Divorced Person, Divorce Guru 13.04.2023

Karen McMahon is the founder of Journey Beyond Divorce, a podcast and divorce coaching practice, and Karen has seen some sh%t! Karen is wise and kind and fun and funny and we had a blast sharing her long, incredibly difficult, and ultimately triumphant story. Karen began her divorce process 20 years ago, and is just now sharing her story for the first time in such detail. We talk about what it loo...

Intro to Divorced People 10.04.2023

Welcome to the Divorced People podcast. A story-telling podcast about what really happens in marriage and divorce, featuring the actual bravest and wisest people. Full episodes coming soon.

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