Generis AI and Tokuma Labs

Distributed Dissent

Business EN ↓ 7 episodes

The intersection of Law, AI, and Finance. WITHOUT a corporate filter. En Hong (Generis AI) and Mathias Bock (Tokuma Labs) are both lawyers and finance veterans building startups in Hong Kong and Tokyo, respectively. Each week, they unpack the trends shaping the industry and explore the pivotal role of AI in legal tech. The conversation is varied and candid. Expect everything from startup war stories and heartfelt advice to deep dives into the books and ideas that are shaping their worldview.

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Generis AI and Tokuma Labs

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Latest episode

Jun 11, 2026

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Episodes

Distributed Dissent — Episode 7: The $500 Million Gamble, Temu Opus, and the Build-vs-Buy Reckoning 11.06.2026

Kirkland just told the world it's spending $500 million to build AI in-house. For a firm with $10.7 billion in revenue, that's a rounding error. For everyone ranked below it, it's a bet-the-firm decision. So what is the money actually for, and what happens when a services business decides it's secretly a software company? En and Mathias open Episode 7 on the announcement nobody in...

Distributed Dissent — Episode 6: Five Years to Make Every Dollar You'll Ever Make 06.05.2026

"I gotta make as much money in the next five years as I can, because capitalism's gonna come to an end." That's not a doomer on Twitter. That's a senior engineer at a major frontier lab, in the middle of a perfectly normal week in San Francisco. Mathias is back in Hong Kong after an extended trip through California and New York, and the conversations he had aren't the one...

Distributed Dissent - Episode 5: Killer Drones, Rogue Agents, and the 2028 Economic Collapse 11.03.2026

In this episode of Distributed Dissent, En Hong (CEO, Generis AI) and Mathias Bock (CEO, Tokuma Labs) dissect the collision course between AI labs, the US military, and global economics. They start with Anthropic’s massive standoff with the Department of Defense over autonomous "kill-bots," contrasting it with OpenAI quietly scooping up the contract. The conversation then shifts to the u...

Distributed Dissent - Episode 4: The "SaaS-pocalypse," Rogue Agents, and the End of Attorney-Client Privilege 22.02.2026

In this episode of Distributed Dissent, En Hong (CEO, Generis AI) and Mathias Bock (CEO, Tokuma Labs) break down a chaotic week in AI, starting with Anthropic’s release of Claude Opus 4.6 and "Claude Cowork." They analyze the massive market sell-off in SaaS stocks, the terrifying security implications of "Open Claw" (an unconstrained agent that can download tools, and even malw...

Distributed Dissent - Episode 3: "Vibe Coding," Engineering Slop, and the Exploding Ferrari 07.02.2026

You’ve built a legal app that looks like a Ferrari. But does it explode when you turn left? Is "Vibe Coding" the future of legal tech, or just engineering slop produced by amateurs? In this episode of Distributed Dissent, En Hong (CEO, Generis AI) and Mathias Bock (CEO, Tokuma Labs) dissect the "Vibe Coding" trend flooding LinkedIn. They debate the difference between building a...

Distributed Dissent: Episode 2: Gemini 3’s Arrival, The Rise of the "Cyborg" Lawyer, and the Copyright Conundrum 16.12.2025

Does the release of Gemini 3 prove that intelligence is a commodity and that OpenAI’s moat is gone? Episode Description: In this month's episode of Distributed Dissent , En Hong and Mathias Bock break down the immediate impact of Google’s Gemini 3 and its dedicated TPU infrastructure on the AI landscape. They debate the dangerous trend of companies firing junior staff to replace them with AI,...

Distributed Dissent: Episode 1: The Fine-Tuning Trap, "Gell-Mann" Amnesia in AI, and Building Legal Tech in Asia 30.11.2025

Episode Description: Is spending millions to fine-tune an AI model a waste of resources when frontier models like Gemini and GPT-5 are evolving so fast? In the debut episode of Distributed Dissent , En Hong (CEO, Generis AI) and Mathias Bock (CEO, Tokuma Labs) discuss the reality of being lawyers-turned-founders in Hong Kong and Tokyo. They debate the diminishing returns of training custom models,...

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