Disastrous
Disrupting Disasters
This is a podcast about doing disasters differently, because our future demands it. Join Elizabeth McNaughton in conversation with disaster experts from around the world. They’ll share stories and learnings from their work, all while discussing how we can change the way we do disaster preparedness, response and recovery to rise to the level of today’s climate challenges. Elizabeth is a disaster specialist and founder of Disastrous, a professional development and innovation hub for those working in disasters. www.disastrous.co
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Episodes
UN Disaster Boss Kamal Kishore on risk reduction, leadership and our interconnected world 12.10.2025 50:09
This special episode was recorded LIVE in Wellington, NZ. Join Elizabeth as she speaks with Kamal Kishore, the Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General for Disaster Risk Reduction and Head of the United Nations Office for Disaster Risk Reduction (UNDRR), based in Geneva. Kamal shares his experiences, from growing up in Delhi, to what drew him to disaster risk reduction, and h...
Carl Hammington on health, mindset training, and doing hard things 08.07.2025 53:29
In this episode, Elizabeth speaks with Carl Hammington, Academic Director at HealthFit Collective in Aotearoa New Zealand. Carl has over 20 years experience as an athlete, health presenter, podcast host, and fitness expert. Carl shares learnings from high performance sport and how they apply to disaster response. They chat about resilience and how a training mindset can help us prepare for life’s...
Briony Rogers on resilient communities, systems change, and fire to flourish 06.05.2025 35:24
In this episode, Elizabeth speaks with Professor Briony Rogers, based at Monash University’s Sustainable Development Institute. Briony is CEO of Fire to Flourish, a pioneering initiative partnering with fire-affected communities, researchers and philanthropy to co-create a model of holistic support for community-led disaster recovery and resilience building. They discuss Briony’s journey as both a...
Marco Toscano-Rivalta on human rights, disaster risk reduction, and finding harmony 16.04.2025 55:26
Elizabeth speaks with Marco Toscano-Rivalta, Chief of United Nations Office for Disaster Risk Reduction (UNDRR) for Asia and the Pacific based in Bangkok. Across his career, Marco has worked with the UN and other international organisations in humanitarian relief, refugee protection, promotion and protection of human rights, justice administration, sustainable development and disaster risk managem...
Hon Kiri Allan on crisis communication, localised knowledge, and bridging worlds 11.03.2025 1:13:46
Elizabeth speaks with former Cabinet Minister and lawyer, Kiri Allan. Kiri was a member of Parliament in the New Zealand House of Representatives from 2017 to 2023, as a List MP and then representing the Labour Party in the East Coast electorate. She held the positions of Minister for Emergency Management and Minister of Conservation (Nov 2020-June 2022), and Minister of Justice (June 2022-July 20...
Megan Stiffler on leadership, inclusivity, and walking your own path 29.01.2025 54:19
Elizabeth speaks with Megan Stiffler, Deputy Commissioner of Fire & Rescue NSW. Megan is a career firefighter and senior officer, leading the way for change in her industry, while leading Urban Search and Rescue (USAR) teams on deployment across large-scale events, and representing the sector internationally. She holds an MBA, is a graduate of the Australian Institute of Company Directors, and...
Dan Neely on community development, design thinking, and Vanilla Ice 16.12.2024 40:42
Elizabeth speaks with Dan Neely, Manager of Community Resilience and Group Recovery Manager at the Wellington Region Emergency Management Office–aka WREMO. Dan began his career in the Peace Corps in Honduras during the recovery from Hurricane Mitch, contributed to post-tsunami efforts in Sri Lanka with the International Organization for Migration (IOM), and since 2012 has led teams based in New Ze...
Dr Carrie Timko Santos on diplomacy, purpose, and women in leadership 28.07.2024 43:01
Elizabeth speaks with Dr Carrie Timko Santos. Carrie is currently based in Poland, working for American Red Cross, supporting the national Red Cross societies impacted by the Ukraine war and influx of refugees. Among her many roles, she has served as CEO of Entrepreneurs’ Organization, led international programs for the American Red Cross, and managed a $150 million portfolio in humanitarian donat...
Richard MacGeorge on future studies, strategy, and trying new things 07.07.2024 46:27
Elizabeth speaks with Richard MacGeorge, a futures expert and infrastructure financial advisor. Since the 1980s Richard has worked on projects around the world, including a time at the World Bank, focusing on financing infrastructure projects in low and middle-income countries. In 2011, he returned home to Christchurch, New Zealand on sabbatical to support earthquake recovery. He started pursuing...
Dr Kate Brady on pragmatism, community development & memento mori 16.06.2024 46:55
Elizabeth speaks with her 'disaster buddy' Dr Kate Brady. Kate has a PhD in Public Health with a focus on disaster recovery. She is the National Recovery Adviser for Australian Red Cross Emergency Services and Senior Research Fellow at the University of New South Wales. In this episode, they discuss why imagination isn’t always helpful, the pragmatic reality of systems change, and pros of...
Dr David Lallemant on risk, averted disasters, and The Little Prince 21.05.2024 41:06
Elizabeth speaks with Dr David Lallemant, Assistant Professor, Disaster Risk Analytics at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, and Head of Disaster Analytics for Society Lab. David’s background is in earthquake sciences and engineering, predictive modelling, geostatistics, and reliability analysis, all supporting research into resilient societies. He supported recovery following earthqua...
Dr Lucy Easthope on permacrisis, Hiraeth, and imagination 06.05.2024 42:35
In this episode Elizabeth speaks with Dr Lucy Easthope, the UK’s leading authority on recovering from disaster and author of the book When The Dust Settles: Stories of Love, Loss and Hope from an Expert in Disaster. They discuss the need for reflection time, the Welsh concept of Hiraeth (a feeling of longing and heart sickness for something lost), and the gap between policies and experience on the...
Welcome to Disrupting Disasters 24.04.2024 1:11
This is a podcast about doing disasters differently. It's for people involved in disaster recovery, emergency management, crisis leadership, or for anyone interested in what we can learn together to disrupt disaster. Join Elizabeth as she introduces Disrupting Disasters.
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