Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Disordered is the podcast that delivers real, evidence-based, actionable talk about anxiety disorders and anxiety recovery in a kind, compassionate, community-oriented environment. Josh Fletcher is a qualified psychotherapist in the UK. Drew Linsalata is a therapist practicing under supervision in the US. They're both bestselling authors in the anxiety and mental health space. Josh and Drew are funny, friendly, and they have a knack for combining lived experience, formal training, and professional experience in an encouraging, inspiring, and compassionate mental health message.
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Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Help! I'm In An Anxiety Spiral! (Episode 90) 13.12.2024 39:59
"Spiraling" is one of the terms heard quite often in the community of people struggling with anxiety disorders. There's a trigger like a thought or a sensation, then in short order you feel completely out of control, being dragged down into the pit of fear where you thrash about trying to make it stop but failing and just feeling worse and worse. This week on Disordered we're taking a closer look...
Anxiety Recovery: How Important Is Attention? (Episode 89) 06.12.2024 44:35
How important is the concept of attention in driving an anxiety disorder and influencing the recovery process? VERY important! This week on Disordered we're up to our usual hijinks but also we're digging into the idea that attention - choosing to pay very close attention to how one feels and what one is thinking - is the primary driver of disordered anxiety. And if this is true - which we say it i...
Anxiety, ACT, and The Happiness Trap w/ Dr Russ Harris (Episode 88) 29.11.2024 47:27
The struggle in an anxiety disorder is seen in two almost automatic responses to anxiety - we either obey it and do what it tells us we must do, or we resist it by trying to fight it, argue with it, and wish it away over and over. This week on Disordered Dr. Russ Harris - one of the world's leading advocates for Acceptance and Committment Therapy (ACT) - is here to chat about the principles of ACT...
Measuring Anxiety Disorder Recovery (Episode 87) 22.11.2024 40:11
How can you tell if you're getting better? How do you measure or at least see progress when working on recovery from an anxiety disorder? What happens if you're "doing it anyway" but not seeing progress? This week on Disordered we're looking at the "green flags" of anxiety recovery. What are the signs that tell you that you're making progress even when you might feel like you're not? How much of r...
Anxiety, Caffeine, Alcohol, and Cheeseburgers (Episode 86) 15.11.2024 46:09
Do you have to give up coffee, tea, wine, pizza and cake to recover from an anxiety disorder? Well ... if you ask the Internet and consult general wellness influencers this question you're going to get answers that tend to collide with best practices among well trained therapists and counselors. No, you do not have to give up your favorite foods and drinks to get better. You may choose to structur...
Obsessive and Compulsive? (Episode 85) 08.11.2024 45:51
This week on Disordered we're starting with the assertion that all anxiety disorders are obsessive and compulsive in at least some way. Then we make our way through all the "usual suspects" Panic disorder Health anxiety Social anxiety GAD OCD (obviously) We're looking at the obsessional components of each anxiety flavor, and the corresponding common compulsions or rituals designed to easy anxiety...
Listener Questions About Anxiety and Recovery (Episode 84) 01.11.2024 40:03
This week Josh and Drew are answering questions from Disordered listeners. How to deal with the shame associated with anxiety and recovery when a partner or spouse isn't terribly supportive. How do re-gain confidence in oneself? What happens if you don't remember what non-anxious you was like? What about flushing, feeling hot, and getting goosebumps when anxious? I'm an introvert. What do I do whe...
Anxiety Disorders - Primary vs Secondary Fear (Episode 83) 25.10.2024 39:40
This week Drew and Josh are talking about secondary fear. When triggered into an anxious state by thoughts, sensations, or anything else, we ALL experience a jolt of fear or discomfort. This is primary fear and its simply part of being human. Overcoming an anxiety disorder is not about removing this natural, healthy response to possible threats. People struggling with anxiety disorders will often...
WHY Did I Develop An Anxiety Disorder? (Episode 82) 18.10.2024 43:31
Everyone that develops an anxiety disorder wants to know why that happened. Why do some people develop disorders while others are anxious and stressed all the time without ever developing a disorder issue? Excellent question, and one that nobody would blame you for asking. This week on Disordered we're exploring the origins of anxiety disorders, why they develop, what makes us more vulnerable to t...
Learning To Be Bored in Anxiety Recovery (Episode 81) 11.10.2024 44:16
Anxious people in recovery from chronic or disordered anxiety can find themselves bored ... and this is often a problem. This week on Disordered we're talking about learning to be bored. Yes, we have to learn how to be bored, which can be challenging if anxiety is a problem for you, but this is a skill well worth learning and practicing. Allowing yourself to sit quietly or to engage in random acti...
Dating With an Anxiety Disorder (Episode 80) 04.10.2024 43:21
"I want to get back into dating but I'm still struggling with anxiety. What should I do?" "It's been going well with this new person and I'm afraid to tell them about my anxiety problem. Any tips?" "Do I need to recover fully before I start dating again?" "What if I start to like this person then then drop me because of my anxiety?" This week on Disordered we're examining the topic of dating ... w...
What's YOUR Anxiety Narrative (Episode 79) 27.09.2024 43:52
Your anxiety narrative is the way you conceptualize your anxiety issues alongside how you see yourself, the world, your life in general, and how you may think your anxiety disorder developed or was triggered. Your personal narrative is important because nobody knows more about you than you! When seeking help with an anxiety problem, your narrative is the place a good helper will start. Helpers do...
Anxiety Disorders: Shock, Attention, and Resistance (Episode 78) 20.09.2024 42:37
Three things start and drive disordered states of anxiety: Shock, Attention, and Resistance Shock is what we experience when anxiety levels skyrocket for what seems like no reason. We experience scary and disturbing physical sensations, thoughts, and emotions all at the same time. It is ... shocking! Attention drives disordered anxiety when our internal states become the most important and interes...
Health Anxiety and Somatic Hyper Focus (Episode 77) 13.09.2024 37:40
Somatic Hyper Focus - That thing where an anxious person becomes hyper aware and hyper fixated on specific bodily sensations or bodily functions. This is a common issue seen in health anxiety, OCD, and panic disorder. This week Drew and Josh are going into detail on somatic hyper focus. What does it look like? How do anxious people get stuck in this loop? What are the mechanisms at play? What tric...
Anxiety Recovery: When The Techniques Don't Work (Episode 76) 06.09.2024 41:00
What do you do when you're working on recovery from an anxiety disorder and your techniques stop working? How do you handle those hard days when you can't make it stop or go away? Well ... this is one reason why in the Disordered community we rarely if ever talk about tips, techniques, tricks, hacks, or steps for calming down, preventing anxiety, or managing anxiety or symptoms. This week Josh and...
The Social Impacts of Anxiety (Episode 75) 30.08.2024 44:01
This week Drew and Josh are looking at the social impacts of anxiety. What happens when panic attacks, anxiety waves, or a flood of scary intrusive thoughts happens in public or while in social situations or when interacting with friends, family members, co-workers, or relationship partners? If your past experiences in life or past relationships have contributed to developing self-beliefs or persi...
When Anxious People Try to Perfectly Fix ... EVERYTHING (Episode 74) 09.08.2024 46:16
Humans will often make the mistake of trying to apply our analytical and problem solving skills in areas where they do not belong. Anxious people - people struggling with anxiety disorders - do this all the time. Are you trying to fix how you feel? Are you trying to solve your anxiety and figure it out? Are you in the habit of trying to control how you feel, engineering away bad feelings and tryin...
Anxiety Questions and Answers (Episode 73) 02.08.2024 43:50
Let's do an old-fashioned anxiety question and answer session! This week Josh and Drew are answering questions sent in by members of the Disordered podcast community. Listen in for answers to the following questions: Are we supposed to challenge our beliefs in recovery? What about dizziness? How do you do recovery when real life happens? My health anxiety is "different". Can I use going to the doc...
Anxiety Recovery and the Fawn / People Pleasing Response (Episode 72) 26.07.2024 41:59
Fight ... flight ... or freeze. But what about the fawn response? This week on Disordered, Drew and Josh explore the fawn response and people pleasing. While this may not be a response we see directly like we do with fight, flight, or freeze, the fawn response that leads to habitual and almost automatic people pleasing can get in the way of the recovery process. It's not exactly easy to choose to...
Anxiety Recovery and Metacognitive Therapy (Episode 71) 19.07.2024 48:09
An anxious state can be at least partially fueled by the act of metacognition. That's thinking and feeling ... about thinking and feeling. When meta-beliefs tell us that thinking, rumination, worry, and mental problem solving is a good way to fix our internal experiences (like big emotions, scary thoughts, or anxiety), things can go off the rails. What seems like a good idea - thinking to fix how...
When Anxiety Feels Automatic (Episode 70) 12.07.2024 44:56
Even when you understand that changing your reaction to anxious thoughts, feelings, and sensations is the way out ... you may feel that this is impossible because those thoughts, those sensations, and your reactions feel completely automatic and unchangeable. This is a common concern for almost anyone struggling with anxiety disorder recovery so this week Drew and Josh are talking about how anxiet...
But What About ...? Applying General Principles in Anxiety Recovery (EP 69) 05.07.2024 43:27
If you've ever listened to an episode of Disordered and felt the need to ask "Yes, but what about when ...?", then this episode is for you. A common struggle among people trying to overcome chronic and disordered anxiety is gaining the ability to generalize the principles of recovery and apply them in an individual context. Anxious people will often hear advice aimed at different types of anxious...
Heat Anxiety (Episode 68) 28.06.2024 36:49
Summer has arrived in the US and the UK, so let's talk about anxiety based on the heat. Summertime is often a difficult time for people struggling with anxiety disorders because the seasonal change in temperature becomes an anxiety trigger. Today the guys are talking about: How heat is just uncomfortable. Being uncomfortable in any way is often unacceptable for people with anxiety disorders. Heat...
Anxiety Recovery and Food/Eating (Episode 67) 21.06.2024 43:24
We're back in business this week with both Josh and Drew in studio again chatting about the role of food and eating in the anxiety recovery process. Everyone eats, and for people struggling with anxiety disorders, food and the process of eating can become deeply connected to recovery and/or attempting to manage anxiety, symptoms, thoughts, or emotions. As usual the guys share from their own experi...
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy w/Dr. Steven C Hayes (Episode 66) 14.06.2024 46:15
The principles of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) are heard in every episode of disordered. Whenever you hear Drew or Josh talk about acceptance or allowing or surrendering and moving THROUGH anxiety rather than resisting it ... you are hearing elements of ACT. This week we're a bit banged up - Josh is traveling and Drew has the flu, but fear not. Not only are we going to talk about AC...
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