Withey Morris
Dirt to Development
We've got a dirty secret. Quite a few actually, and you will only hear them on our new podcast called Dirt to Development. We give you a behind-the-scenes look at key development projects and the insane stories surrounding them. Stay tuned to listen to all the dirt on land use, development, and the inside politics of Arizona!
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Withey Morris
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Jun 22, 2026
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Episodes
Ep. 27 - "Two attorneys walk into a bar…" with Mark Tarbell 03.01.2023 56:03
2022 was a banner year for Withey Morris and our favorite restaurant Tarbells. Who better to recap it with than an Emmy Award winner, James Beard nominated, Paris-trained, two-time inductee to the Arizona Hall of Culinary Fame, and award winning restaurant owner, Mark Tarbell!!
Ep. 26 - Finding Your Coach 29.12.2022 12:32
Quick Land Use Update with Ben Tate: Recapping new state law regarding Major General Plan Amendments and why you should talk to your land use Attorney immediately.
Ep. 25 - The Man, the Myth, the Legend: Mike Withey 29.11.2022 1:13:45
From pinstripe suits and cowboy boots, to Auto malls and State Land, few people have had more of an impact on local development than Mike Withey, the original founder of Withey Morris, PLC and a beloved friend to Jason Morris and Adam Baugh. Enjoy the laughs with us as we take a trip down memory lane and learn why finding friends at the kegger on the first day of law school pays off in the long ru...
Ep. 24 - Greg Vogel, Part 2 22.11.2022 57:31
The state of the residential land market, future projections, and why Arizona is well positioned for long term success.
Ep. 23 - We're Basically Famous 19.10.2022 1:14:52
What does Elvis at Las Vegas, The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show and the Dirt to Development Podcast at the AZ American Planning Association have in common? History making, wild fans and great performances. Listen as we regale audiences at the APA conference with a little back to the future planning knowledge.
Ep. 22 - Prosopagnosia and the Database Man 22.09.2022 42:57
When Greg Vogel started with Coldwell Banker in the early 80's, little did he know about the value of land databases. In the 40 years since, he created Land Advisors Organization, one of the premier land brokerage firms and leaders in PropTech. Listen as Greg shares how he went from Fraternity Brother to Land Guru while thrusting Arizona to new development frontiers.
Ep. 21 - Haboobs and the evolution of experiential retail development…with Chris Hake and Andy Call 09.08.2022 33:07
Development has inherent risks which is why it is critical to be responsive to new trends and land use changes. Listen to our friends at Thompson Thrift talk about how they make commercial development an experience and destination to adapt to land use trends.
Ep. 20 - How to destroy municipal zoning authority...and put zoning attorneys out of business, with Caleb Rhodes 01.08.2022 28:48
In early 2022, Arizona municipalities and cities were shocked to learn about a proposed bill in the Arizona State Legislature that would drastically handcuff municipal zoning authority in order to bring more affordable housing to market. We call it the Zoning Attorney Job Killer legislation. Thankfully, it didn't advance but the bill started a conversation about how Arizona might consider tackli...
Ep. 19 - Perry Mason, Harvey Specter, Ally McBeal, and…Dan Dowd??? 21.06.2022 43:46
If you can't play an attorney on TV, at least you can be a great one in real life. In this episode we discuss how land use litigation can affect the best deals and how important it is to assemble the world's best when involving high stakes transactions.
Ep. 18 - A Baker's Man 08.06.2022 41:53
Finding the land deal can be tricky but negotiating the transaction can be more challenging given seller demands, title exceptions, and more. Dave Baker guides us through the real estate transaction, purchase agreement, title review, and closing.
Ep. 17 - Sniffin' Butts and Other Common Pitfalls to Avoid in Site Selection w/ Brett Hopper and Steve Backman 24.05.2022 39:21
Sometimes you have to kiss a few frogs before you find a prince. Land development and site selection is the same, except choosing a poor site can blow up your deal…and your job. In this episode we learn from the best as they guide us through what to avoid when evaluating potential sites.
Ep. 16 - Top 10 Zoning Landmines to Avoid 10.05.2022 37:43
Rezoning land is like navigating a minefield. One bad step and your entitlement case is blown to pieces. Listen in to hear tips and tricks to help navigate your way to success with top zoning experts.
Ep. 15 - MRAD: Masters in Really Awesome Development…(sorta) w/ Mark Stapp and Andrea Alley 26.04.2022 50:47
When the Masters in Real Estate Development (MRED) program launched at ASU in 2006, few people could foresee the role it would play in development projects across Arizona. In the 16 years since, its influence is seen in the graduates, relationships, and projects that have been created because of it (as well as other copycat programs that imitate its success). In this episode we learn the origins...
Ep. 14 - Joe Johnston: The Mastermind Behind Agritopia, Epicenter, Joe's BBQ and More 13.04.2022 42:33
Agritopia is to planning what the Beatles Sgt. Peppers album is to music – a masterpiece. Joe Johnston's accomplishments as a developer and entrepreneur include other successes like Epicenter, Coffee Plantation, Joe's BBQ, Joe's Farmhouse Grill, Liberty Market, and more. Listen as we hear how Joe reinvented his family farm into a model for place-making and creative development and how William John...
Ep. 13 - Michael Rumpeltin, Creative Genius and Adaptive Reuse King 15.03.2022 34:16
Michael Rumpeltin is the design brains behind notable projects like The Yard, Joyride Taco, Stock and Stable, Postinos Highland and more. Hear how he makes unique spaces work with adaptive reuse and experiential retail.
Ep. 12 - Zoning Interpretations and other "Letters to Mom" w/Kevin Mayo and Tricia Gomes 01.03.2022 40:53
The Zoning Ordinance includes uses and development standards governing property development, but what happens when land uses don't fit neatly into a specific zoning district? Or when a site plan needs to change, or a zoning compliance letter is required? Listen as we discuss tips and tricks to work with planning agencies to secure favorable zoning letters that meet the intent of the code.
Ep. 11 - The Batman and Robin of Economic Development w/ Brian Friedman and Randy Huggins 15.02.2022 52:30
The City of Glendale is seeing tremendous success with new developments along the 101 and 303 Freeways, and the tip of the spear is the City's Economic Development Department. Check out how Brian and Randy from Glendale's Economic Development Department help prepare and pave the way for successful developments, and why all new projects should start with them first.
Ep. 10 - There is no replacement for proper(ty) due diligence with Stephanie Watney and George Pasquel 01.02.2022 39:00
Smart developers know the value of a good due diligence effort, which should only be done by local experts who know where the bodies are buried inside the city's zoning and permit records department. Yet for some reason, reckless developers are relying on out-of-state PZRs (Planning & Zoning Reports) as their sole resource for proper due diligence. In this episode we discuss why local knowledge i...
Ep. 9 - Amending the General Plan is Not Rewriting the Bible w/ Ben Tate 27.01.2022 33:29
If the General Plan were viewed as an atlas map, and a zoning map like a street map, then zoning attorneys would be Google Maps. In this episode we provide critical guidance on how to navigate General Plan amendments, key filing deadlines, and potholes to avoid during that process.
Ep. 8 - "Mary, Queen of N. Central" with Mary Crozier 18.01.2022 55:00
The North Central Phoenix Homeowners Association is no pushover, and rightfully so. They've worked hard to set high standards and encourage good development. But not all cases are easily won and some give and take with the neighbors and developers is necessary. Listen in as we discuss effective neighbor outreach and learn key insights from a well-respected community leader, Mary Crozier.
Ep. 7 - Even the Death Star needs a Planning Director with Alan Stephenson and Randy Grant 07.01.2022 47:39
The city planning department is more than just an episode of Parks and Recreation (but we sure would love to see Leslie Knope at the Planning Commission). As the Director of the fifth largest city in America, running the City of Phoenix Planning and Development Department is a daily sprint. Not far away, Scottsdale's planning director confronts the daily struggle of old time Scottsdale and new day...
Ep. 6 - Lessons learned from the Dais: Volunteer Commissions & Boards, with Jimmy Lindblom and Jessica Sarkissian 21.12.2021 1:00:20
Serving on municipal boards and commissions is a thankless job. Nobody pays you, it's inconvenient and almost every decision makes another person upset. So why do it? We've got some sage advice from two of our favorite community resident volunteers. Jimmy Lindblom and Jessica Sarkissian discuss the pros and cons of serving on zoning boards and commissions, share insights on what makes a good zonin...
Ep. 5 - "Don't Tell Me I Can't" with Nate Nathan 07.12.2021 55:43
Watching the Fiesta Bowl on TV in January 1974 changed Nate Nathan's life. Seeing the sunshine and tanned coeds in Arizona while he shivered in Chicago brought him west and he never looked back. More than 40 years later, nobody is more involved in land deals, transactions and developments across Arizona than the legend himself – Nate Nathan. Join us as we hear Nate's background story, why "no" is...
Ep. 4 - Zoning & Politics: A kick in the ball(ot box) - with Gibson Mackay 24.10.2021 54:23
Tribal politics is so 2020, yet we've been dealing with politics and land use since the Xerox machine. Zoning is at the intersection of politics and land use, and as a result, predictability is thrown out the window and uncertainty remains supreme. Listen as we discuss how politics and land use work together (and against each other) as we talk about the infamous Trump Tower zoning case from 2004,...
Ep. 3 - Won't you (not) be my neighbor? with Todd Chester 12.10.2021 53:41
How can a project be so successful that it spurs massive area redevelopment and investment and yet creates a huge neighborhood outcry at the same time? In this episode we dissect "The Yard at 7 th Street, '' a case study on land use entitlements that includes variances, use permits, abandonments, signage, zoning interpretations and more. You'll learn why its success is a model on how infill and ad...
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