Withey Morris

Dirt to Development

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We've got a dirty secret. Quite a few actually, and you will only hear them on our new podcast called Dirt to Development. We give you a behind-the-scenes look at key development projects and the insane stories surrounding them. Stay tuned to listen to all the dirt on land use, development, and the inside politics of Arizona!

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Withey Morris

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Latest episode

Jun 22, 2026

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Episodes

Ep. 77 - Big Box to Big Blocks: The Empty Commerical to Multifamily Makeover w/George Pasquel 22.06.2026

As retail vacancies linger and housing demand surges, Arizona HB 2110 is creating a new playbook for adaptive reuse across the state. In this episode, we break down how commercial-to-multifamily conversions are moving from theoretical to feasible—and why this bill could be a game changer for developers, municipalities, and investors alike. We dive into how HB 2110 opens the door to by-right or str...

Ep. 76 - The ROAD Less Traveled: What Congress' Housing Bill Means for BTR with Steve LaTerra 01.06.2026

Congress is close to delivering the most significant housing legislation in decades - but not without sparking a fierce debate over build-to-rent communities and institutional investment.  In this episode we speak with Steve Laterra (Terra Lane Development) to break down the latest version of the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act, the controversial provisions that nearly upended the BTR indust...

Ep. 75 - Build-to-Rent Meets the Federal Speed Bump 21.05.2026

 In this episode of Dirt to Development , Adam Baugh breaks down the proposed federal “21st Century ROAD to Housing Act” and explores how it could reshape housing development, zoning, and institutional investment across Arizona. From build-to-rent uncertainty to the unintended consequences for housing supply, this episode examines whether the legislation is truly paving the road to affordabil...

Ep. 74 - Watt’s the Deal with Data Center Zoning? 07.04.2026

Data centers may be the backbone of the digital economy, but getting them approved on the ground is anything but seamless. In this episode, we unpack the growing tension between surging demand for data infrastructure and the realities of local zoning and land use regulation—where megawatts meet municipal code. From intensive utility demands and transmission constraints to water usage concerns, noi...

Ep. 73 - Razing the Bar: An Adaptive Reuse Love Story 25.03.2026

The pursuit of land use entitlements comes with risk.  For partners Adam Baugh and Jason Morris, the risk was worth the reward as they converted a local bar into a swanky law office complete with a putting green and a speakeasy.  The redevelopment of this 40-year-old building is a masterclass in adaptive reuse execution. Said best, "I'm sure the sports bar served better wings, but we dis...

Ep. 72 - Proportionately Yours 18.03.2026

 In this episode, we break down the concept of proportionality appeals in the land use context and why they have become an increasingly important tool for developers and property owners. When cities and towns impose conditions on development approvals—whether through exactions, infrastructure requirements, or other mitigation measures—the law requires those conditions to remain proportional t...

Ep. 71 - Community Outreach 101...with Tom Bilsten 29.01.2026

Changing the status quo can be hard for neighbors to accept, and it often drives NIMBY reaction to new development.  Smart developers know the value of hiring a Neighborhood Outreach Specialist. Hear how Tom Bilsten navigates community outreach and makes it an early step for development success.

Ep. 70 - The Toy Barn - A grown ass mancave...with Jason Phillips 18.11.2025

Boys love their adult toys...but where can you put them?  Jason Phillips at Wesley Development cracked the code in the development of the Toy Barn, a luxury storage condo project meant for all your biggest toys.

Ep. 69 - Shouting Loudly: Is Civic Discourse a Lost Art? 27.10.2025

Recent shootings and other public discord has affected us all. Is there a way to disagree better? County Supervisor Mark Stewart and former Councilwoman Kathy Tilque still have hope.

Ep. 68 - Golf Course Conversions: Pulling off the impossible 16.09.2025

Turning dirt to development is hard enough, but try converting a golf course into a new subdivision and the whole world loses their mind. Against all odds, the impossible became possible over a 3 year slog. As the saying goes, where there is a will, there is a way.

Ep. 67 - Friends in the right places...with Steve Bowser 09.09.2025

Land development is not for the faint of heart, but it certainly helps to have friends on the zoning commission.  Even better when they are a professional civil engineer. It doesn't always mean a yes, but at least you know they understand the facts.  

Ep. 66 - Taking Punches...with Rich Zacher 02.09.2025

Like a cat, Rich Zacher has 9 (development) lives.  Listen as we go down memory lane with one of our favorite guests.

Ep. 65 - Friends in the right places...with Steve Bowser 27.08.2025

Land development is not for the faint of heart, but it certainly helps to have friends on the zoning commission.  Even better when they are a professional civil engineer. It doesn't always mean a yes, but at least you know they understand the facts.  

Ep. 64 - Origin Stories: Zoning Attorney to Superhero...with Ben Tate and Alex Hayes 05.08.2025

Every superhero has an origin story and so do our zoning attorneys. Whether begging for a job, stalking your future employer, or asking your mom to make an intro...it requires creativity to launch a coveted zoning career. Listen as we reflect back on starting a career in land use and zoning law.

Ep. 63 - What does a PHD from MIT have to do with Development?...with Alex Pollack 20.05.2025

Alex Pollack created a data-driven analytical approach to contracting.  Could it be useful in land use entitlements?

Ep. 62 - C.R.A.B.S and Referendums: Two Things Nobody Wants...with Grant Fisher, VAI Resorts 06.05.2025

Referendum laws are designed to empower citizens by allowing them to challenge legislative decisions through a public vote. However, in recent years, these laws have been increasingly misused by out-of-state union groups as a tool to block zoning changes and halt new developments. This trend has raised concerns that referendum laws are being weaponized to obstruct economic development rather than...

Ep. 61 - Buildng a Winning Entitlement Strategy...with Todd Gosselink 29.04.2025

Anatomy of a zoning case Pt.2: Building a winning strategy during the entitlements phase

Ep. 60 - Halo Vista: A City Within a City...with Craig Henig 25.03.2025

Turning the desert into a $7 billion development project is no easy task. Billed as a "city within a city", Halo Vista will feature 2,300 acres, 28 million square feet of mixed-use development capacity, and up to 8,960 residential units as well as industrial, retail, and office spaces.  This truly is a story of dirt to development.

Ep. 59 - "A Finger on the Pulse"...with Scott Isham 04.03.2025

When the development process is fraught with uncertainty, relying on strategic relationships can help you avoid unforeseen pitfalls.  Listen as Scott Isham, Chief of Staff for Maricopa County District 4 Board of Supervisors, helps guide developemnt to a Yes...and shows us how to be a big time movie star.

Ep. 58 - Engineer to Developer; Passion to PowHer 07.02.2025

The path from dirt to development is evolutionary.  Some doors close while new ones open.  Hear Shelby Duplessis's story from engineer to developer, to motivating female empowerment.

Ep. 57 - Oh, What a Year! with Matt Mancini 17.01.2025

2024 was a riot.  No really...some of our cases caused a riot.  Recapping 2024 with our good friend Matt Mancini, Partner at 3 Engineering.

Ep. 56 - "I've seen a lot of tools…" 27.12.2024

Anatomy of a Zoning Case Pt. 2: Building an effective neighborhood outreach campaign.

Ep. 55 - Why every project needs alignment between their zoning attorney and civil engineer…with Darrell Wilson of Colliers Engineering and Design. 26.11.2024

Episode 55: Why every project needs alignment between their zoning attorney and civil engineer…with Darrell Wilson of Colliers Engineering and Design.

Ep. 54 - "If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else" 30.10.2024

Anatomy of a zoning case Pt.1: Don't sleep on the pre-filing strategy.

Ep 53 - Making News with Greg Barr, Editor, Phoenix Business Journal 09.10.2024

Making news is our jam, and the Phoenix Business Journal is your insider's guide to the world of development. Join us as we navigate the crossroads of land deals and breaking news —because in our world, even dirt has a story to tell.

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