Digital Ecology
Digital Ecology Podcast
The Digital Ecology podcast creates a window into the backstory of technology adoption in the UK’s healthcare system. Through interviews with experts in the field, we shine a light on the inner workings of digital health and uncover a world of complexity and challenge. We are in the foothills of technology adoption, where the hype doesn’t always match the reality.
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Mar 25, 2026
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Episodes
Future of Digital Health in 2026: Exploring AI, Equity, and Innovation in Healthcare 25.03.2026 31:28
In this episode I speak with Pritesh Mistry, Fellow at the King's Fund, about the recent shifts and future direction of digital health in the NHS. We touch on the major developments of 2025, including structural changes, EPR rollout, and the launch of NHS Online. Pritesh highlights the NHS AI Ambassadors Group as a positive force for building skills and celebrating success in digital transformatio...
Rethinking Digital Transformation: From Transactional Systems to Human-Centered Change 08.12.2025 38:26
In this episode, I speak with Paul Taylor about the realities of digital transformation across health and social care, with a focus on how technology is adopted within the NHS and related sectors. Our conversation is rooted in Paul’s reflections on a blog he wrote critiquing digital transformation. Notably, his suggestion that “digital transformation was never about digital and rarely about transf...
Learning From Failure in Digital Health With Dr Sarah Crossland 03.11.2025 30:26
In this episode, I speak with Dr Sarah Crossland about the role of failure in digital health innovation. Sarah is a lecturer in medical engineering at the University of Hull and a practising clinician specialising in orthotics. We first met at a conference focused on human factors in digital innovation, where Sarah gave a memorable talk about failure and its importance in the innovation process. D...
Making Digital Health Accessible: Creativity, Co Design, and Collaboration at King’s Health Partners 15.09.2025 29:31
In this episode I speak with Dr Lili Golmohammadi and Emelia Delaney, both research associates at King’s Health Partners Digital Health Hub. Lili and Emelia come from design backgrounds but with experience in different sectors; from eco design and engineering to fashion and sustainability, and have now found themselves working in digital health for the first time. We discuss their journeys into di...
Digital Innovation in the NHS: Exploring the New Ten Year Plan with Hatim Abdulhussein 14.08.2025 33:35
In this episode I speak with Hatim Abdulhussein about the NHS’s new Ten Year Plan and what it means for digital transformation, innovation, and workforce development. Hatim is a practicing GP, CEO of Health Innovation Kent Surrey Sussex, and Honorary Professor of Innovation and AI at the University of Surrey. We begin with Hatim’s career journey, from his early experiences with digital syste...
People, Process, Technology: Why NHS Innovation Needs a Human Approach with Dr Helen Hughes 21.07.2025 28:08
In this episode I speak with Dr Helen Hughes, Associate Professor of Organizational Psychology at the University of Leeds and Director of the Behaviour Lab at Leeds Business School. Helen’s work focuses on the human side of systems, particularly how people think, feel and behave in complex environments such as healthcare and engineering. We discuss what ‘human factors’ means as a discipline and it...
Behind the Scenes of digital in NHS: Rochelle Gold on User-Centered Design 31.05.2025 27:44
In this episode I speak with Rochelle Gold, Head of User Research at NHS England. Rochelle’s background spans research in health, social care, and digital technology, and we explore the evolving role of user research and user-centred design in the NHS, both on a national scale and at the local level. Rochelle shares what her main role involves, from setting standards and policy for ethical and saf...
S3 E3 - Designing for Mortality and Innovation in Healthcare with Ivor Williams 25.03.2025 35:43
In this episode, I sit down with Ivor Williams, a designer with a background in both UX and product design with a focus on mortality and end of life care. Ivor brings a unique perspective to design in healthcare with his experience spanning academia, startups, and current independent venture, Delving into his work at Imperial College with palliative and end of life care projects. We talked a...
S3 E2 - Journey of Tiny Medical Apps: Greg Burch on Digital Health Innovations 11.03.2025 38:18
In this episode, I sit down with Greg Burch, a specialty doctor in the emergency department and co-founder of Tiny Medical Apps. Greg has been working in clinical settings for many years and shares his journey into the world of digital health innovation. Greg's professional background and the inception of Tiny Medical Apps, an app designed to support young individuals in managing their health cond...
S3 E1 - User-Centered Design in the NHS: Personas, Prototypes, and Pain Points with Lindsay Lewis & Hayley Grafton 22.12.2024 32:08
In this episode, I speak with Hayley Grafton, the Chief Nursing Information Officer at University Hospitals Leicester, and Lindsay Lewis, a master’s student in Service Design at the University of the Arts, London. We discuss their collaborative project focusing on medication management, which is part of Lindsay's Master's degree project. Delving into the use of personas to improve user engagement...
S2 E10 - The Craft of Caring: Douglas Hamandishe on NHS, Healthcare Innovation, and Patient Empowerment 24.06.2024 50:27
In this episode, I speak with Douglas Hamandishe about the challenges and potential innovations within the NHS. Douglas brings a wealth of experience and a diverse background, including roles as a mental health nurse, CCIO, broadcaster, creative director, and local councillor. His insights are deepened by an engineering background and his practical, hands-on understanding of healthcare systems. Do...
S2 E9 - Bridging Gaps: From Health Inequalities to Digital Innovation with Matt Boazman 20.05.2024 34:11
In this episode, I speak with Matt Boazman, the Chief Executive of Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital, about the evolving landscape of digital transformation in healthcare, focusing particularly on the crucial role of third sector organisations in engaging diverse communities. Matt, who brings a wealth of experience from his position at a prominent healthcare trust, delves into the intrica...
S2 E8 - Aahuti Rai on Women's Health and the Power of Digital Transformation 26.02.2024 45:29
In this episode of Digital Ecology, I speak with Aahuti Rai, a remarkable voice and advocate for women's health and a proponent for sustainable innovation in digital health. Aahuti shares with us her extensive experience in digital transformation across different sectors before focusing her expertise exclusively on health tech. With Aahuti's background in large multinational corporations, sh...
S2 E7 - Enhancing Nursing Practice with Technology: Conversations with Natalie Hayes 22.01.2024 39:13
In this episode of Digital Ecology, I have the pleasure of speaking with Natalie Hayes, the Chief Nursing Information Officer in a large acute trust in the Northwest. Our conversation centres on the impact of technology on nursing in the NHS and Natalie's experiences advocating for nurses in the digital transformation space. Natalie has been in her role for three years and describes it as being an...
S2 E6 - Empowering Digital Entrepreneurs: Insights on Innovation and Diversity in Healthcare with Jenny Chong 18.12.2023 37:16
In this episode of Digital Ecology, I delve into the dynamic world of digital health alongside my guest, Jenny Chong, a non-executive director at an NHS Trust. Our discussion traverses the myriad challenges, opportunities, and critical areas within the digital health sector, drawing from our personal experiences and insights. We kick off the conversation by sharing our personal hurdles in seeking...
S2 E5 - Jo Robinson on Suicide Prevention in the Digital Age 04.12.2023 46:57
In this episode of Digital Ecology, I speak with guest Jo Robinson, Professor and Head of Suicide Research at Orygen, a leading youth mental health service in Melbourne, Australia. Jo Robinson leads research programs on suicide prevention, specifically focusing on reducing suicide risk among young people. Our conversation centres around Jo's work with the CHATsafe intervention, a project focused o...
S2 E4 - Continuous Discovery: Unlocking User Insights for Better Product Development: Kayikunmi 'Kay' Sogo 09.10.2023 33:19
In this episode of Digital Ecology, host Victoria Betton is joined by Kayikunmi 'Kay' Sogo, a senior product manager specialising in product management and user research. Kay emphasises the importance of discovery, assumption testing and working with cross-functional teams to build software. Kay reflects on a recent decision-making process regarding a content management system (CMS) an...
S2 E3 - When I get things wrong, my brain grows: James Freed 19.09.2023 40:08
In today's episode of Digital Ecology, I chat with James Freed, a seasoned expert in digital health. We kick off by diving into James's eclectic career journey—starting from biochemistry and oncology, pivoting into NHS cancer services, and finally making waves in digital health. He offers wisdom on the essence of change management and even shares a personal story abou...
S2 E2 - Complicated, complexity & chaos in digital health: Sam Shah 09.08.2023 35:27
In this episode Sam Shah and I converse on the topic of complexity in digital health, the tendency to tip into chaos and the fact that things are rarely just complicated. Sam is a well known figure in digital health. In addition to his practice as a dentist, he's chief medical officer at Numan, senior adviser at Freuds, visiting lecturer at UCL and has a host of other roles besides. Sam refle...
S2 E1 - How to fail better with simulation: James Woollard, Wendy Chapman & Kit Huckvale 22.05.2023 43:32
In the first of my second series of the Digital Ecology podcast I host a panel conversation about the role of simulation in healthcare professional training and how it applies to all stages of design, development and implementation of digital technologies in the NHS. I'm joined by James Woollard, a child psychiatrist and chief clinical information officer along with Wendy Chapman and Kit Huckvale...
S1 Ep10 Hierarchy is the enemy of innovation: Charlotte Fox 05.05.2023 42:51
Is it possible to innovate in the NHS? Spoiler alert - Charlotte convinced me that the answer is yes. Charlotte is an innovation dynamo - starting life as a volunteer in the NHS, she now leads on innovation for one of the largest acute NHS trusts in the country. In the final episode of the series, Charlotte shares her personal journey and how she found a niche, creating the conditions which enable...
S1 Ep9 Making SystmOne sexy: Toby Avery 13.03.2023 34:25
In this episode I chat all things user-centred design with Toby Avery, chief digital information officer at Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust. Toby shares the story of how an idea and an experiment with design has turned into a trust wide approach to designing for the outcome with multi-disciplinary fusion teams. Toby and his team have gone as far as designing SystmOne user inter...
S1 Ep8 Bringing QI and digital transformation tribes together: Anne Cooper 04.02.2023 26:00
In this episode Anne Cooper and I chat about the relationship between quality improvement and digital transformation. Anne tells me about her Minerva programme, building the leadership skills of women working in digital health. I first met Anne when she was chief nurse at NHS Digital and she is now a non-executive director at an ambulance NHS trust as well as the chair of Ethical Healthcare Consul...
S1 Ep7 What we can learn from qualitative research into user-centred design for digital transformation: Tracey Watson 05.12.2022 31:04
In this episode I interview Tracey Watson about her research into the role of user-centred design in NHS digital transformation. With a previous role directing industry partnerships and engagement for the NHS, Tracey now leads digital transformation for the Northern Care Alliance NHS Foundation Trust. During our conversation,Tracey shares her not so usual pre-NHS background and goes on to talk thr...
S1 Ep6 The future of electronic patient records and why they are on the tipping point of disruption: Thomas Webb (part 2) 20.10.2022 20:20
In this episode I continue my interview with Thomas Webb, founder and CEO of Ethical Healthcare Consulting. Thomas shares his thoughts about the current state of the electronic patient record market and why he believes we are on the cusp of some big changes. He makes the case for open source, open standards and investing in the community of people trying to accelerate this new approach to the core...
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