Thrive
Diary of a CLO
Let’s be real. The same industry voices have been dominating the conversation in L&D for the last 20 years. But it’s time for a different perspective. Welcoming CLO’s, entrepreneurs, business leaders, sporting heros, learning leaders and even industry competitors this podcast goes behind the scenes to give L&D teams an unfiltered view of what it truly takes to progress, develop, learn and lead. Enjoy!
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Dec 16, 2025
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Episodes
Klaudia Mitura - Happiness as the new engagement stat 16.12.2025 30:00
In this episode I'm joined by Klaudia Mitura, L&D Manager at the Science Museum Group and author of The Alphabet of Happiness . Listen in as we discuss what we should really be interested in measuring in the workplace, and how L&D contributes to the picture. Klaudia's positivity shines through in this episode. Enjoy. Klaudia Mitura Thrive
Richard Reis - AI dating 06.08.2025 48:00
In this episode I'm joined by Richard Reis, entrepreneur and founder of Spark, an AI dating site where real people form real relationships with AI bots. Yes it feels slightly uncomfortable, right? In 2024 Richard set out to experiment with AI and aimed to start a new company every 2 weeks, totalling 25 start ups across the year. But he stopped at number five: Spark. We dig into the ethics of AI da...
Jodie Cook - Digital nomad life, powerlifting and AI coaching 05.06.2025 40:00
In this episode I’m joined by Jodie Cook - founder of Coachvox - AI for coaches. Jodie is not your average entrepreneur. She’s a powerlifter, a digital nomad, and a passionate writer. We explore the intersection of human and tech, and look towards the future particularly through the lens of AI. Jodie is engaging and enigmatic and this episode captures all of that and more. Enjoy. Thrive Jodie Cook
Marina Gerner - FemTech and The Vagina Business 03.04.2025 35:00
In this episode I’m joined by Marina Gerner , award-winning journalist and author of the acclaimed book ‘The Vagina Business’. Marina has a clear passion for shifting the status quo when it comes to the narrative surrounding FemTech, and her book broadly explores the future of female health. We unpick why FemTech has historically been an underfunded area, and uncover what the future might hold in...
Perry Timms - The future of work is human 19.02.2025 34:00
If you’re interested in why the future of work is human, then this episode is for you. I’m joined by Perry Timms, Founder & Chief Energy Officer, and number 1 most influential HR thinker of 2023. In 2024 Perry was was given the Lifetime Achievement Award from WorldBlu for service to self-managed and democratic, freedom-centred work. We cover why purpose-led work is so important, and what the f...
James Swift - Human centric organisational performance 08.01.2025 40:00
In this episode I’m joined by James Swift, Head of Talent Development at Leyton, an international consulting firm. James is the type of learning leader we all aspire to be: focused on human-centric organisational performance and consistently showcasing impact through his innovative application of AI. James has developed a model to help people put this into practise themselves, which is focused on...
Radhika Dutt - Radical product thinking 04.12.2024 34:34
In this episode I’m joined by Radhika Dutt, author of Radical Product Thinking and co-creator of the radical product thinking framework which is a free downloadable toolkit which helps organisations systematically build world-changing products. We talk about the intersection of product and learning, and how learning teams could always do well to think like product developers. Enjoy. Radical produc...
Craig Hamill - Talking male mental health 23.10.2024 35:00
In this episode I’m joined by Craig Hamill who has been in the L&D industry for over 20 years and has been in both vendor side and in-house roles. We cover what’s going on in the industry right now, but also dive deeper into what can be a taboo subject for some people and organisations: male mental health. Craig is a great advocate of talking, building connections and sharing, and we talk abou...
Hannah Litt - Creating safe spaces at work 02.10.2024 35:00
In this episode I’m joined by award-winning social justice activist and a seasoned leader in diversity, inclusion, and anti-racism - Hannah Litt. Hannah’s purpose-driven journey has been fuelled by a commitment to creating positive change, and Hannah now helps guide organisations to create cultures that value and celebrate diversity, unity, and collective healing. As a South Asian, Muslim woman fr...
Dean Jackson - Thinking people and culture first 18.09.2024 29:00
In this episode I’m joined by Dean Jackson, Director of Global People & Culture (Digital Experience) at Coca-Cola Europacific. Dean has built a career in digital workplace technology, with a focus on people and culture. With a huge depth of experience and enthusiasm for people experience, Dean is a really forward-thinking leader, and recognises the nuances of the range of audiences he serves i...
Margie Meacham - The Brain Lady 04.09.2024 38:00
In this episode I’m joined by Margie Meacham, otherwise known as “the brain lady”. Margie effectively bridges the gaps between neuroscience, AI and instructional design to help people think more holistically about how and why they are designing learning. We cover all of that in this episode, and look at what the future might hold for learning experience design. Enjoy. Margie Meacham Thrive
Pauline Rebourgeon - Learning at the forefront of innovation 21.08.2024 30:00
In this episode I’m joined by Pauline Rebourgeon, Head of Learning Technology and Innovation at Ericsson. If you can imagine someone who epitomises what a successful L&D professional should look like, Pauline is your lady. With a role that intersects across innovation, technology and community-building, the work Pauline is doing - particularly in the AI coaching and skills space - is so inspir...
Dr Adrienne Milner - Data driven diversity and inclusion 07.08.2024 30:00
In this episode I’m joined by Dr Adrienne Milner, who is an expert in all things culture and policy change in the DE&I space. Her colleagues at UNTHINK affectionately call Adrienne the ‘DEI doc’ and she uses advanced statistics and qualitative methodology to help organisations and individuals show true impact in this space - something that is so needed right now. We dig into all of that and mo...
Dr Charlotte Rae - Making four day weeks work 24.07.2024 20:00
In this episode I’m joined by Dr Charlotte Rae, a psychologist at the University of Sussex, who specialises in the biology of wellbeing. In particular, she studies how our working lives interact with our physical and mental health. Charlotte created the Sussex 4 Day Week project to study the effects that a 4 day working week has on staff, from brain function to sleep, and how these underpin perfor...
Michael Ioffe - Meeting people where they are 17.05.2024 30:45
In this episode I’m joined by Michael Ioffe, co-founder and CEO of Arist and a kindred spirit when it comes to trying to meet people where they are, and focusing on learning in the flow of life. We delve into why Arist was founded and the types of problems it solves for, as well as taking a look at the future of L&D more broadly. Enjoy. Arist Thrive
Jenny Muhlwa - Embracing feminine power 26.04.2024 30:00
In this episode, I’m joined by Jenny Muhlwa, a Leadership Consultant and Coach, and the creator of the world's first open programme for women to understand how they can lean into their strengths and show up effectively depending on what stage of their hormone cycle they are in. Being able to communicate effectively about what will work best for you, and planning your work life around your hormonal...
Adam Horne - Building open cultures 12.04.2024 35:00
In this episode I’m joined by Adam Horne, Co-founder of OpenOrg and People Metrics. Adam is pushing for more open and transparent working, particularly across people teams in the start-up space. As a new Dad for the third time, and a business founder by trade, Adam is no stranger to hard work and graft, but he also knows how important it is to get the people stuff right in order to impact business...
Dean Leak - Healthy high performance 22.03.2024 39:00
In this episode I’m joined by Dean Leak, Performance consultant and coach who has previously worked with team GB as a talent development manager, and now spends his time helping organisations to adopt a healthy high performance mindset. Dean is focused on improving decision-making, trust, belonging, and empathy amongst the teams he works with. This conversation is really insightful, and will help...
Lee Chambers - Allyship in action 08.03.2024 37:00
Lee Chambers is an inspiration to many. As a black, autistic, disabled person he has faced his fair share of prejudice and discrimination and has oftentimes throughout his life been told that he won’t succeed. Determined to prove people wrong he became a successful entrepreneur. But whilst he was recovering from an unexpected hospitalisation due to a debilitating autoimmune condition, he moved fro...
Erica Farmer - AI for the Average Joe 23.02.2024 36:00
Erica is co-founder of Quantum Rise and you’ll often find her keynote speaking at learning and education conferences and events. Erica’s area of specialism is the future of work and skills, digital learning and challenging the quality of our education systems. In this episode, we dig into AI, as Erica is passionate about driving innovation and creating spaces for communities to learn together. As...
Jack Green - The cost of achieving your goals 09.02.2024 37:00
In this episode, I’m joined by ex-Olympian Jack Green, who specialised in the 400m hurdles and represented Team GB in the 2012 and 2016 games. Jack retired at 28 and now spends his time involved in workplace wellbeing, mental health and coaching. After being diagnosed with depression, anxiety, bipolar tendencies and at one point being considered a risk to his own life, Jack has faced not only the...
Henry Coutinho Mason - Innovating towards a new normal 19.01.2024 38:00
In this episode, I’m joined by Henry Coutinho-Mason, a trend-watcher and a 'reluctant' futurist (his words, not mine!). Henry is the co-author of two books Trend-Driven Innovation and The Future Normal, and has spent his career identifying and analysing trends. Our conversation centres on Ai, future skills and what a new normal might look like for us. Enjoy. Thrive Henry Coutinho Mason
Anamaria Dorgo - Building communities 05.01.2024 38:00
In this episode, I’m joined by Anamaria Dorgo, an L&D practitioner with a community-first attitude. As founder of L&D Shakers, and Head of Community at Butter, Anamaria epitomises giving back to the circles in which she operates. We uncover the thinking behind the communities, why it's important now more than ever to share openly with them, as well as some of the best practices for anyone...
Dr Keith Keating - Becoming a trusted learning advisor 15.12.2023 37:00
In this episode of Diary of a CLO I’m joined by Dr Keith Keiting, who has had a rich and varied career in learning and talent development. Keith is currently a lecturer at the University of Pennsylvania - one of the only universities in the world to offer a doctorate in learning leadership, and is also the Chief Learning and Talent Officer at Archwell. Keith is currently pushing for greater change...
Jayne Howson - Playgrounds for growth 01.12.2023 31:00
Jayne is the Senior Vice President of Global Field Enablement at Salesforce and such a fabulous human being. Focused on a people-first approach and creating ‘playgrounds for growth’ Jayne shares how she encourages people to reflect on what they’ve learnt about themselves as opposed to about what they’ve learnt more generally, and creates safe environments for failure and resilience building. Enjoy...
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