Borderlands Trail Running
DFL Before DNF
Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, Borderlands Trail Running Welcome to Season 3 of DFL Before DNF. This season is a celebration of the great ultrarunning courses. In each episode, the course is the hero through the eyes of someone who is training for it or who has run it. Season 1 of this podcast propelled me to finish the Zion 100. This is evergreen content for anyone going after something big. Season 2 featured some great brands in trail running. Check out our new mobile app, Wylder. We want it to be the center of your run club.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Transformed by Running [Wolfie's World] 29.07.2025 26:36
In this episode of Wolfie's World, the host Brian shares the inspiring story of Nolan, a young man who transformed his life through running after experiencing personal tragedy. The episode emphasizes the power of community, the journey of self-discovery, and the significance of honoring friendships through meaningful actions. Subscribe to Wolfie's New Channel ( Apple | Spotify ) (Wylder is now ava...
The Pacer Debate: Should We Allow Pacers at 100 Milers? 22.07.2025 56:03
Today's episode is produced by you, the listeners, and hosted by Josh + Brian . In this episode we take calls and read comments responding to what you care about. Everyone is welcome to chime in here. We will never humiliate anyone. If you bring good faith takes to us, we will return with good faith answers. Jim Walmsley calls out pacers Are Western States + Hardrock hiding behind virtue? Here for...
Ultrarunners Pay Full Price, Nothing's Free [Full Price Runner] 21.07.2025 8:35
Ultrarunners pay full price for everything from gear to race entry fees to travel. But also, we pay the price with our family time and work time. We pay the price of perfection in our personal lives to make room for ultrarunning. Kade Wilcox is joining the podcast creator family that will soon be a formal podcast network. He is preparing for Moab 240 and he's going to bring us along in the journey...
The Hardrock 100: A Run not a Race? It's a Race. And a Run. [Bad Runners Take] 14.07.2025 50:58
In this episode, Josh and Brian dive deep into the Hard Rock ultramarathon, discussing their experiences, reflections on the race, and the community surrounding it. Josh reflects on his evolving understanding of Hard Rock. The Hardrock race is seen as more of a celebration than a competition. Katie's course record The Here for the Women's Race shirt incident sparks a conversation about intentions...
What's Special About Hardrock 100? Hyperlyte Hotline, Outrider Running League, Dan Green/Max Jolliffe/Wolfie Run [Bad Runners Take] 07.07.2025 49:28
Hardrock 100 comes quickly after Western States perhaps hiding in a shadow it prefers. More than any other ultramarathon, Hardrock is about the runner. Other notable races have to navigate a lot of pomp and circumstance, but this one focuses on getting 145 runner around the loop to kiss the rock. So what's so special about the Hardrock 100? Find out. Hyperlyte Hotline - In America? Call RUNMORE649...
Paris Fashion Week + Run Culture - what's the connection? + PFW Recap 04.07.2025 48:55
Paris Fashion Week is a celebration of running and style. Innovative running brands show up from all over the world to showoff upcoming styles, run together, dine together, and generally engage the aggressively growing running indsutry. Huge thanks to Aire Libre + Naked Sports Innovations for the support necessary to make this all happen. We went to see a lot of brands. Here's the skinny on each o...
Post Game Show: Western States 100 - What Will We Remember About 2025 10 Years from Now? 30.06.2025 44:59
What will we remember about Western States 2025 5 years from now? * Outrider Running League * How did friends of the podcast do? - Dan Green, Hans Troyer, Emily Hawgood, Jeff Browning, + Ryan Montgomery. ****Aire Libre - What Brought You Here <----The Video Josh Referenced (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Aire Libre - Discover the World through Running. Naked Sport...
Who is Going to Win? Pre Western States Race Coverage: Bad Runners Take 27.06.2025 1:07:43
Josh Rosenthal and Wolfie dive deep into the upcoming Western States 100. They discuss the dynamics between established elite runners ('Made Men') and emerging talents ('Associates'), the impact of age on performance, and the significance of prize money in the sport. The conversation also highlights the competitive landscape of the women's race and the potential for community engagement to shape t...
Matt Daniels: 10 Minutes with The Nolan Ryan of Trail Running | Pre Western States Commentary 25.06.2025 14:46
Matt Daniels needs no introduction in the trail world. He's a speedy elite runner with a great career. He's not running Western States 100 but he knows what its like and can bring us insight that few others could. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Hyperlyte Liquid Performance - Leave us a message here on the Hyperlyte Hotline to respond our episodes, ask questions, tel...
Jeff Browning: 10 Minutes with the Great Bronco Billy | Pre Western States 2025 24.06.2025 13:52
Jeff Browning is a legend in ultrarunning even if he stopped running today. At the age of 53, he has an incredible resume of performance and influence in the sport ultra trail running. But he isn't slowing down or stopping. He's running WSER 2025 planing to compete with the young guys with an eye on the over 50 years old age group record for WSER. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ----...
Ryan Montgomery: 10 Minutes with a Legend in the Making | Pre Western States 2025 24.06.2025 10:15
Ryan Montgomery is an endurance athlete of layers - a high performer in every facet of life. Yes, many know him from his triumphant entry into the WSER arena with a 7th place finish in 2023. But Ryan has run races like Badwater, Desert Solstice, + Tahoe 200. Ryan is an endurance runner's endurance runner. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Naked Sports Innovations - the...
Paris Fashion Week is for Runners 23.06.2025 24:39
Sam Lohse joins Josh to talk about Paris Fashion Week and why its important for runners world wide. We understand that the problem here is squarely that this movement is happening at Paris Fashion Week. We understand that hesitiation with accepting this movement if you're not in it, but hear us out. The only thing more beautiful than the aesthetic is a lot of the people participating in it. (Wylde...
Chris Severson: 10 Minutes with a non-elite running Western States | pre Western States 23.06.2025 11:18
Chris Severson is an ER doc, husband, father of many and running Western States 2025. In this interview we talk about how someone spinning all the plates prepares and thinks about Western States. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Hyperlyte Liquid Performance - Leave us a message here on the Hyperlyte Hotline to respond our episodes, ask questions, tell us off, etc. Nak...
Emily Hawgood: Ten Minutes with Zimbabwe's Finest Ultrarunner | Pre Western States 100 22.06.2025 12:32
Emily Hawgood has been dominating the world's hardest ultramarathons in recent years. She joins a stacked 2025 women's field and joins Josh and Brian for a 10 minute prerace interview. Photo Credit: Waste of Time and Talent . (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Hyperlyte Liquid Performance - Leave us a message here on the Hyperlyte Hotline to respond our episodes, ask qu...
Hans Troyer: 10 Minutes with the Kid himself | Pre Western States 100 20.06.2025 10:54
It's a big season for the Hans Troyer - a Golden Ticket giving him an entry to WSER and a world class doc called 'The Kid' by Hyperlyte Liquid Performance. 10 Minutes with Hans before the great 2025 WSER. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Naked Sports Innovations - the best running belt in the world Hyperlyte Liquid Performance - Leave us a message here on the Hyperlyt...
Dan Green: 10 Minutes with the Silver Bullet | Pre Western States 100 20.06.2025 10:41
Dan Green is the Silver Bullet and we sat down with him for 10 minutes to talk nicknames, marshal, pivoting from Black Canyons to Cocodona 250, and more in the lead up into the 2025 running of the Western States 100. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partner ---- Naked Sports Innovations - the best running belt in the world Hyperlyte Liquid Performance - Leave us a message here on...
Hans Troyer/The Kid, WSER Hype, Pure Running at Paris Fashion Week [Bad Runners Take] 19.06.2025 38:23
Josh Rosenthal and Wolfie discuss the upcoming Western States race, featuring elite athlete interviews, insights into the competition, and a unique connection to Paris Fashion Week. They explore the human interest aspects of running, the significance of community engagement through the Hyperlite Hotline, and the impact of documentaries like Hans Troyer's on the running culture. The conversation em...
Feed Your Running Dream [Wolfie's World] 18.06.2025 32:15
Brian discusses the importance of balancing life and running, the new partnership with HyperLyte , and the upcoming athlete interviews for the Western States race. He emphasizes the significance of feeding the dream and normalizing routines to achieve success in ultra running. Brian also shares insights on creating a focused environment for training and the need to balance dreams with daily routin...
Is Norda 001 the Air Max 1 of running? + Mallrats [Inky Steve] 17.06.2025 37:48
Manchester's favorite running child, Inky Steve , joins Josh again to was poetic on the intersection of Trail Culture x Sneaker Culture. We also pick a movie to characterize the intersection of the day. Air Max 1s are iconic and we believe Norda 001s have the same potential to be unchanged for decades to come. Did Nike know they had a winner from day one? Did Norda? Time will tell, but there are s...
Lydia Oldham | 650km Projecto Portugal, Solo TSP, and How to Savor Big Accomplishments 16.06.2025 33:17
Lydia Oldham ran across Portugal (5 days, 17 hours) and did a solo TSP from Las Angeles to Las Vegas. Runners like Lydia almost make it look easy so long as you don't pause and contemplate the wild complexity of planning and near-impossible reality of actually executing it physically. Josh is starting to get the bug. (Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Host and...
From 50 Miles to Moab 240 with Kade Wilcox 12.06.2025 38:13
Kade Wilcox perfectly represents the original audience of Borderlands. Even the name Borderlands means the land between two places - your daily life and your amobitious ultrarunning goals. Kade is spinning a ton of plates, paying full price for gear and jumping from his furthest run of 50 miles to 240 miles. Kade Wilcox is transitioning from 50 miles to Moab 240. Balancing family, work, and traini...
Made Men vs the Associates, Haves vs Have Nots, Established vs Disruptors, WSER 2025 Narratives [Wolfie's World] 10.06.2025 37:58
(Wylder is now available on iOS + Android .) Wolfie lays out the story lines for WSER 2025. the Made men vs. the Associates . Made men are official, initiated Mafia members with full status, while associates work with the Mafia but lack initiation and privileges. He's looking at the runners who are made vs. the ones trying to make it. Kilian Jornet vs. Hans Troyer Dan Jones vs. Seth Ruhling Rod Fa...
Will Western States Records Fall in 2025? [States Debates] 09.06.2025 45:52
The male and female course records at Western States are stout. Will the current course records held by Jim Walmsley (14:09 in 2019) and Courtney Dauwalter (15:29 in 2023) respectively fall during the 2025 running of WSER? As a fan, we just want a great race regardless of times, but both fields are poised to attack the CRs. If only one CR falls, whose is most likely to go? Courtney's or Jim's? Joe...
[Bad Runners Take] Max Jolliffe/Trail Earnhardt, BPN's Backyard, a Dirtbag Race, WSER Hype 05.06.2025 46:56
In this episode of the Bad Runners Take on the Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running Podcast, Josh + Brian discuss various topics including the evolution of Max Jolliffe's new nickname, reflections on recent dirtbag races, + more. Max's new nickname: Trail Earnhardt Experiencing a race IRL reignites Josh's passion for the sport. Written training logs enhance reflection and mental clarity. Borderland...
[Wolfie's World] Present Challenges Create Your Future Self 03.06.2025 23:44
In this episode of Wolfie's World, Brian discusses the recent controversies in the trail running community, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the collective strength of the 95. He explores how to endure pain and suffering during ultra races, highlighting the significance of mental resilience and the concept of the future self. Brian shares insights on training strategies that build mental...
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