Tenney Nathanson
Desert Rain Zen
Listen to dharma talks by our teacher Tenney Nathanson Roshi and other teachers in our tradition. Desert Rain Zen is part of Cloud Gate Zen, a branch of the Pacific Zen School founded by Joan Sutherland Roshi. Our practice centers on an innovative approach to koans and includes group koan conversations as well as individual koan work with Tenney. Desert Rain Zen podcasts are free. If you'd like to support our podcasting and other activities, you can make a tax-deductible donation on our website at https://www.desertrainzen.org/donate.html Most of Desert Rain Zen's activities take place on Zoo...
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Tenney Nathanson
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Jun 29, 2026
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Springs Mountain Sangha spring retreat, Benet Hill Monastery in the Black Forest, Colorado, March 2026: 1st night: Sarah 29.06.2026 22:29
Send us Fan Mail Sarah Bender Roshi gives her first talk on the opening night of the Springs Mountain Sangha Retreat, on March 9. * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activities take place on Zoom or as hybrid events, so you don't need to live here to practice with us. Desert Rain Zen podcasts are free. If you'd like to support our podcasting an...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2026: 4th night talks: Tenney & Megan 28.06.2026 52:12
Send us Fan Mail In these talks from the last evening of retreat, Tenney returns to Zhaozhou's mondos and talks about how they show different ways of knowing, and subject-object relationships. Megan comes back to the theme of the knowing body and explored the relational and collective field of awakening. * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activitie...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2026: 3rd night talk: Megan 30.04.2026 46:36
Send us Fan Mail Megan gives the third night talk at our spring retreat focusing on Zhaozhou. She explores the crucial ways in which Zhaozhou’s teaching not only emphasizes our ordinary mind and our actual lives, but does so by inducing us to ground ourselves in our embodied experience, in our actual bodies, where prajna is already at home. * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2026: 2nd night talk: Tenney 16.04.2026 46:05
Send us Fan Mail Tenney gives the second night talk at our spring retreat focusing on Zhaozhou. Bringing in several short Zhaozhou mondo, Tenney talks briefly about some of what he’s noticed keeping company with these short dialogues, and then opens things up for a koan conversation. * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activities take place on Zoom or as h...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2026: 1st night talks: Tenney & Megan 29.03.2026 29:19
Send us Fan Mail Tenney and Megan give the opening night talks at our spring 2026 retreat, which focuses on the teachings of Chan teacher Zhaozhou. * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activities take place on Zoom or as hybrid events, so you don't need to live here to practice with us. Desert Rain Zen podcasts are free. If you'd like to suppor...
Desert Rain Zen Desert Sunrise Retreat, March 2024: Refuge Retreat, 2nd night talk: Tenney 12.02.2026 57:22
Send us Fan Mail Tenney gives the second night talk at our March 2024 Desert Rain Zen Desert Sunrise Refuge Retreat. “There is someone at peace, / walking in the Tao . . . “ (Yongjia Xuanjue, “Song of Realizing the Way”) Is that about realizing “oneness” and, if that’s the case, is that the whole story, the whole of “the absolute”? Maybe not. As Shitou puts it, in Joan Sutherland and John Tarr...
Desert Rain Zen Desert Sunrise Retreat, March 2024: Refuge Retreat, 1st night talks: Tenney & Megan 24.01.2026 28:03
Send us Fan Mail Tenney and Megan give the opening night talks at our March 2024 Desert Rain Zen Desert Sunrise Refuge Retreat, suggesting some ways we can let ourselves fall open to what’s already available, on offer. “There is someone at peace, / walking in the Tao . . . “ (Yongjia Xuanjue, “Song of Realizing the Way”) (talks given March 19, 2024 at the Redemptorist Renewal Center out at Pic...
Open Source Retreat, October 2025: “Golden Wind,” 2nd night talk: Tenney 23.11.2025 1:01:15
Send us Fan Mail Tenney gives the talk on the second night of our retreat. Beginning by exploring various translations of the “Golden Wind” koan and the different feel they give to Yunmen’s response to the student, Tenney brings the case into relation to Wallace Stevens’s poem “The Snow Man.” Then, via consideration of commentaries on the case by Xuedo, Yuanwu, Hakuin, and Tenkei, dragons get into...
Open Source Retreat, October 2025: “Golden Wind,” 4th night talk: Sarah 23.11.2025 1:09:06
Send us Fan Mail Sarah gives the talk on the fourth night of our retreat. A group conversation follows Sarah’s talk. (talk given October 16, 2025 at the Bodhi Manda Zen Center in Jemez Springs, New Mexico) * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activities take place on Zoom or as hybrid events, so you don't need to live here to practice with us. Deser...
Open Source Retreat, October 2025: “Golden Wind,” 1st night talks: Tenney, Megan, and Sarah 23.11.2025 36:42
Send us Fan Mail Tenney, Megan, and Sarah give brief talks on the opening night of our Fall 2025 Open Source “Golden Wind” retreat. A student asked Yunmen, “When the tree withers and the leaves fall, what’s that?” Yunmen said, “The Golden Wind reveals itself.” Blue Cliff Record Case 27 (talks given October 13, 2025 at th...
Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024: “Sickness and Medicine,” 2nd night talk: Tenney 25.10.2025 40:57
Send us Fan Mail Tenney gives the second night talk on “Sickness and Medicine,” discussing the Blue Cliff Record commentary on the case and bringing in a few anecdotes, from both his own practice history and the Open Source community. Hakuin says that if you take the phrase “sickness and medicine cure each other” as itself being medicine, that’s a big mistake (it’s too glib). Sickness isn’t “quell...
Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024: “Sickness and Medicine,” 4th night talk: Sarah 22.09.2025 1:02:58
Send us Fan Mail Sarah gives the fourth night talk on “Sickness and Medicine.” (check back soon for expanded notes on this episode!) * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activities take place on Zoom or as hybrid events, so you don't need to live here to practice with us. Desert Rain Zen podcasts are free. If you'd like to support our podcasting...
Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024: “Sickness and Medicine,” 3rd night talk: Megan 22.09.2025 1:06:55
Send us Fan Mail Megan gives the third night talk on “Sickness and Medicine,” focusing on sickness and suffering not as mistakes to be “fixed” but as inescapable aspects of our vulnerable lives in the world that deepen and humanize our hearts, making us tender and strengthening our practice, our zen minds. Medicine, likewise, takes multiple forms: often it consists of a widening of perspective, a...
Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024: “Sickness and Medicine,” 1st night talks: Tenney, Sarah, & Megan 27.07.2025 25:25
Send us Fan Mail Open Source teachers Tenney Nathanson, Sarah Bender, and Megan Rundel each give introductory talks on the first night of our retreat. Our retreat takes its title from Blue Cliff Record Case 87: “Yunmen said to the assembly, ‘Medicine and sickness cure each other. The whole earth is medicine. What is the self?’” (translation by Joan Sutherland and John Tarrant). Sarah Bender Rosh...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The World of Dew," 4th night talks: Tenney & Megan 22.07.2025 49:03
Send us Fan Mail Tenney and Megan each give talks on the final night of the retreat. Tenney brings in a collection of anecdotes to continue exploring the sustenance available when we allow loss and grief to permeate us and intertwine with the radiance and eternal quality of things that practice helps make palpable. Megan muses on the Prajna Paramita teachings and their grounding in our deep and pr...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The World of Dew," 3rd night talk: Megan 21.07.2025 1:04:25
Send us Fan Mail Megan gives the third night retreat talk, bringing in several Issa poems that focus on impermanence, loss, and grief, then offering an extended meditation on “the world of dew / is the world of dew / and yet, and yet.” How can we allow ourselves feel this “and yet, and yet” fully, letting our hearts be broken when they are broken and feeling and working through our grief as deeply...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The World of Dew," 2nd night talk: Tenney 14.07.2025 40:00
Send us Fan Mail Tenney gives the talk on the second evening of our retreat (the end of our first full day). Taking up three koans from The Blue Cliff Record that all concern the mysterious interweaving of the ephemeral and the eternal, he focuses on our mobile and multiple human responses to this intertwining of what’s poignant, painful, or tragic with a maybe unanticipated sense of radiance, tim...
Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The World of Dew," 1st night talks: Tenney & Megan 12.07.2025 24:33
Send us Fan Mail Tenney and Megan give introductory talks on the first night of our Spring 2025 Desert Sunrise Retreat, "The World of Dew." Issa's heartbreaking haiku for the death of his young child is a central focus of these opening talks, and of the retreat. Tenney and Megan each begin to explore the intertwining, in our practice, of our deepening awareness of the stillness and...
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