Fluence

DePINed podcast

DePINed is a podcast focused on the ecosystem of decentralized physical networks. DePIN companies and protocols crowdsource infrastructure such as WiFi hot spots, computer servers and even cars and, using crypto incentives, create cohesive, global networks from thousands of different providers. This podcast explores all of the use cases launching in this sector as well as the key players in financing and explaining this growing sector which will reshape a broad array of industries. Hosted by Tom Trowbridge, co-founder of Fluence, previously co-founder and president at Hedera Hashgraph.

Author

Fluence

Category

Technology

Podcast website

depined.xyz

Latest episode

Mar 19, 2026

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Episodes

Privacy for Web3: Confidential On-Chain for Stablecoins, DeFi & RWAs | Francis Otshudi, iExec (#79) 19.03.2026

Privacy is becoming a critical layer for Web3 infrastructure — especially as stablecoins, DeFi, and RWAs move on-chain and attract institutional adoption. But how can decentralized systems ensure both transparency and confidentiality? In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, host Tom Trowbridge, Co-Founder & CEO of Fluence, sits down with Francis Otshudi, CTO of iExec, to explore how privacy-pr...

Bitcoin Mining as Home Heat: Turning Compute Into a Consumer Product | Alex Busarov, Heatbit (#78) 05.03.2026

Bitcoin mining, energy efficiency and decentralized infrastructure are increasingly intersecting as new hardware models emerge. In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, host Tom Trowbridge, Co-Founder of Fluence, sits down with Alex Busarov, Founder of Heatbit , a company building home heating devices that mine Bitcoin. The conversation explores how Heatbit turns a simple physical principle — elect...

Asset-Backed Loans for Compute: Turning GPUs into DeFi Yield | Conor Moore, USD.ai (#77) 19.02.2026

GPU compute is becoming the core infrastructure layer of AI, but financing that infrastructure is still broken. Traditional lenders can’t efficiently underwrite small-to-mid GPU loans and the ABS market can’t move fast enough for hardware that depreciates in 3–5 years. In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, host Tom Trowbridge, Co-Founder & CEO of Fluence, sits down with Conor Moore, сo-Found...

DePIN for Atmosphere Monitoring: Telescopes, SkyBridge, Incentives | Franck Marchis, Skymapper (#76) 29.01.2026

2024–2025 became a breakout moment for decentralized sky monitoring. In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, host Tom Trowbridge (Co-Founder & CEO of Fluence) sits down with Franck Marchis (Co-Founder & CEO of Skymapper) to explore how a decentralized network of telescopes and all-sky cameras can monitor space and the atmosphere — satellites, debris, drones and unexplained phenomena — with...

DePIN eSIM Connectivity in 190+ Countries Without the Web2 Friction | Marcus Hearne, Ubitel (#75) 15.01.2026

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, host Tom Trowbridge, co-founder & CEO of Fluence, sits down with Marcus Hearne, founder & CEO of Ubitel. Marcus is building Ubitel — a DePIN-powered connectivity platform that uses Trusted Execution Environments (TEE) in mobile phones to create secure, anti-sybil infrastructure for global internet access. In this conversation, we explore how phone-le...

Edge AI for Real-World Intelligence | Harry Dewhirst, 375AI (#74) 08.01.2026

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast , host Tom Trowbridge sits down with Harry Dewhirst, Founder & CEO of 375AI , to explore how edge AI is turning the physical world into actionable intelligence.375AI is building a real-world data intelligence network that captures activity across highways, intersections, and urban environments — converting massive volumes of raw video into lightweight, pr...

Fluence 2025 Year in Review: CPUs, GPUs, Token Economics & Scaling DePIN Compute (#73) 25.12.2025

2025 became a year of product depth and infrastructure maturityOver the past twelve months, Fluence moved from a narrow compute narrative to a fully-fledged CloudStack — production-ready CPUs, virtual servers, a rebuilt provider stack and a platform designed to serve real workloads at scaleTo close the year, Fluence co-founders Tom Trowbridge and Evgeny Ponomarev sat down to reflect on what was bu...

Building a Decentralized Connectivity Layer for DePIN | Jason Brink, Datagram (#72) 18.12.2025

Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks (DePIN) promise a new internet. In this episode, Jason Brink, CEO and co-founder of Datagram, explains why most DePIN projects fail and what it actually takes to build one that works. Datagram is not another “node-for-tokens” network. It’s a production-grade decentralized infrastructure already serving hundreds of real B2B customers, handling voice, v...

Decentralized Compute + Swarm Inference: The Future of AI Models | Ivan Nikitin, Fortytwo (#71) 11.12.2025

Small, specialized AI models are catching up to and in many cases outperforming — frontier LLMs. Fortytwo is building a decentralized compute network where thousands of lightweight models collaborate, rank each other’s outputs, and produce reasoning-quality results that rival the biggest models in the world. This is swarm Inference powered by DePIN.In this episode, Tom Trowbridge (Co-Founder of Fl...

Decentralized Energy: Solar, Home Batteries & Virtual Power Plants | Jason Badeaux, Daylight (#70) 04.12.2025

Explore how decentralized energy is transforming the power grid — rooftop solar, home batteries, virtual power plants, and on-chain financing. This is the new DePIN-powered energy economy. In this episode, Tom Trowbridge (co-founder of Fluence) talks with Jason Badeaux, co-founder of Daylight Energy — one of the fastest-growing decentralized energy networks in the world. Daylight recently announce...

The DePIN Telecom Revolution: Roaming Without Borders | Samer Bishay, Karrier One (#69) 27.11.2025

Explore how Carrier One is redefining global connectivity through DePIN and bringing telecom into Web3.In this episode, Tom Trowbridge interviews Samer Bishay (CEO & co-founder of Karrier One) — a decentralized telecom network enabling global roaming, local coverage, and Web3-native identity for millions of mobile users. Carrier One merges 25+ years of telco expertise with DePIN economics to s...

The AI Data Engine Behind 8M Devices & Petabytes of Web Data | Andrej Radonjic, Grass (#68) 20.11.2025

Explore how Grass became one of the most important data engines powering today’s AI models! In this episode, Tom Trowbridge (co-founder & CEO of Fluence) interviews Andrej Radonjic, Founder & CEO of Winged Labs — the team behind the Grass Network, a DePIN system with 8M+ residential devices contributing bandwidth and enabling petabytes of real-world web data for the world’s leading AI labs...

Streaming the 3D WorldStreaming the 3D World | Luis Ramirez, Mawari (#67) 13.11.2025

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge sits down with Luis Oscar Ramirez , Founder of Mawari , the Immersive Compute Network powering the future of XR and AI. Mawari started as a Web2 company trying to solve the hard problem of streaming 3D content for AR/VR — and found DePIN as the only viable way to scale. Today, they’re running over 5,000 GPUs across APAC, powering real-time edg...

DePIN is Growing Up: What VCs Really Look For | Mike Zajko, Lattice (#66) 30.10.2025

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge talks to Mike Zajko, co-founder of Lattice , one of the most active DePIN-focused venture firms. Mike shares what VCs really look for in early-stage crypto projects, how the DePIN category has evolved, and why real-world traction and revenue are more critical than ever. 👀 We cover: - Lattice’s origin story- What makes a DePIN project fundable...

AI-Powered TV: Smart Agents, Tokens & Real-Time Context | Mateusz Poreda, Rumi (#65) 16.10.2025

What if your TV could talk back? In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, we dive into the future of interactive media with Mateusz Poreda, co-founder of Rumi — a decentralized protocol turning passive video into AI-powered, personalized experiences. Real-time content indexing, contextual ads and second-screen engagement, Rumi is building a gateway between streaming, gaming, and generative AI. Don’...

The Future of AI Data: Decentralized, Crowd-Powered & Blockchain-Proven | Max Li, OORT (#64) 02.10.2025

What if anyone, anywhere could contribute to the next generation of AI and get paid for it? In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, we talk to Max Li, founder and CEO of OORT — a decentralized data collection network with over 350,000 contributors across 100+ countries and 100,000+ active nodes. OORT is building the global infrastructure for verifiable, crowd-sourced AI data — from speech to video...

Decentralizing Energy: Grid Disruption & Tokenization via DePIN | Jemma Green, Powerledger (#63) 18.09.2025

💡 Can blockchain help power the future? In this episode of DePINed Podcast, we sit down with Jemma Green, Executive Chairman and co-founder of PowerLedger to explore how decentralized infrastructure is reshaping the $2 trillion global energy industry. Jemma shares Powerledger’s journey — from launching Australia’s first ICO to building a cross-chain energy ecosystem on Solana and Ethereum. With 1...

Democratizing Game Development: Slashing Dev Costs with DePIN | Jon Radoff, Beamable (#62) 04.09.2025

With over 100 live games and millions of players, Beamable offers a full backend-as-a-service for game developers — now expanding into DePIN to cut infrastructure costs and reduce centralization risks 🎮 In this episode of DePINed, we speak with Jon Radoff, CEO and co-founder of Beamable — a platform that’s reshaping game development through decentralized infrastructure. We cover: - The economics...

Unlocking the Permanent Cloud: Naming, Gateways & Scale on Arweave | Phil Mataras, AR.IO (#61) 24.07.2025

The demand for faster, cheaper content delivery is exploding — can decentralized CDN scale to meet it? 🌐 In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge talks to Phil Mataras, founder & CEO of ⁠ AR.IO ⁠ — the first permanent cloud network built on Arweave. We explore how ⁠AR.IO⁠ is creating seamless, reliable access to permanent data and applications by adding essential services to the...

How ARO Network Is Revolutionizing Decentralized CDN with Buy-and-Burn Tokenomics | Cathy Zhu (#60) 03.07.2025

In this episode of the #DePINed Podcast, we’re joined by Cathy Zhu, COO of ARO Network — a decentralized content delivery network (CDN) designed to transform how bandwidth is shared, monetized and scaled globally. ARO empowers everyday users to contribute unused bandwidth through simple software or low-cost edge devices, while businesses benefit from reduced latency and dramatically lower costs. 🎙...

How NodeOps Powers 67,000+ Nodes & $6M in DePIN Revenue | Naman Kabra, NodeOps (#59) 26.06.2025

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge talks to Naman Kabra, co-founder & CEO of NodeOps — a rapidly growing DePIN platform offering a full-stack suite for decentralized compute orchestration. From one-click node deployment to a fully operational cloud, security hub, and staking tools — NodeOps is redefining how developers, node operators, and compute providers interact. 🎙️ In...

Building the Real-World Metaverse: How to Scale 3D Mapping | Diego Di Tommaso, OVER (#58) 19.06.2025

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge talks to Diego Di Tommaso, co-founder of Over , a leading project building decentralized 3D maps for ARWe explore how Over evolved from a metaverse platform to a large-scale visual positioning system and why real-world mapping is the missing link for immersive AR experiencesTopics we cover: - How Over mapped 128,000+ locations with centimeter-...

Building for the Future of Decentralized Storage and Compute | Sam Williams, Arweave (#57) 12.06.2025

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge sits down with Sam Williams, co-founder & CEO of Arweave , to unpack the economics, technology, and vision behind decentralized permanent storage and compute. Discover: - How Arweave achieves near-perpetual storage using an endowment model that beats AWS costs over time - The tokenomics that underpin Arweave’s long-term sustainability and...

The DePIN Storage Layer Powering AI & Media Workloads | Colby Winegar, Storj (#56) 05.06.2025

In this episode of the #DePINedPodcast, Tom Trowbridge speaks with Colby Winegar, CEO of Storj, a decentralized cloud storage protocol with nearly a decade of evolution behind it. We cover how Storj is bridging the gap between traditional cloud performance and decentralized architecture — through measurable value for real customers across AI, media, healthcare and academia 🧠 In this episode: – Ho...

Decentralized RPC, Real Revenue & LLM Access | Arthur Sabintsev: POKT Network (#55) 29.05.2025

🎙️ In this episode of the DePINedPodcast, Tom Trowbridge sits down with Arthur Sabintsev, CEO of POKT, one of the earliest DePIN projects and a cornerstone of decentralized infrastructure since 2019. What started as a decentralized gateway to blockchain data has now expanded far beyond crypto: Pocket is evolving into a generalized data transport layer. Watch to learn: - How Pocket provides decentr...

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