Justin Kempf

Democracy Paradox

Is it possible for a democracy to govern undemocratically? Can the people elect an undemocratic leader? Is it possible for democracy to bring about authoritarianism? And if so, what does this say about democracy? ​​My name is Justin Kempf. Every week I talk to the brightest minds on subjects like international relations, political theory, and history to explore democracy from every conceivable angle. Topics like civil resistance, authoritarian successor parties, and the autocratic middle class challenge our ideas about democracy. Join me as we unravel new topics every week.

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Justin Kempf

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Government

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www.democracyparadox.com

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Robert Lieberman, Kenneth Roberts, and David Bateman on Democratic Resilience and Political Polarization in the United States 04.01.2022

So, the question is how do you respond to that? If you are the party that sees itself as being on the side of democracy and on the side of maintaining democratic norms and procedures and maintaining this kind of democratic accountability, how do you respond? Do you respond in kind? Do you respond with hardball tactics of your own? Robert Lieberman A full transcript is available at www.democracypar...

Angus Deaton on Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism 28.12.2021

It's this sort of persistent loss of wages, which causes things like loss of marriage, people not living with their kids anymore, disintegration of communities with all of the things in those communities whether it's churches or union halls or society, just friendship that used to be there. And those are the things that cause people to lose meaning or, if you like, lose hope in their liv...

Zeynep Pamuk on the Role of Science and Expertise in a Democracy 21.12.2021

Science is never offering the whole truth. It may be offering us something accurate. Scientific findings may be reliable for now, but they are always incomplete. Zeynep Pamuk A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a short review of Politics and Expertise: How to Use Science in a Democratic Society   here . Zeynep Pamuk is an assistant professor of political science at the Un...

Caitlin Andrews-Lee on Charismatic Movements and Personalist Leaders 14.12.2021

Charismatic leaders who are intent on governing solely using their charismatic authority and subverting other things to their personal power are inherently bad for democracy and inherently illiberal. They're anti-pluralist. They don't want to share their power with others even within their own movement or their own party. They don't tolerate dissent. Caitlin Andrews-Lee A full trans...

Stephan Haggard and Robert Kaufman on Democratic Backsliding 07.12.2021

The way we conceive of democracy is being challenged by these regimes and, by that I mean, because the process of backsliding is so incremental, it's difficult to see where these boundaries are. Stephan Haggard A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a short review of Backsliding: Democratic Regress in the Contemporary World   here . Stephan Haggard and Robert Kaufman ar...

Joshua Yaffa on Truth, Ambition, and Compromise in Putin's Russia 30.11.2021

‘What would you prefer? Would you prefer that this boy, Vasya, die because he couldn't get dialysis? Would you prefer that this girl, Katya, die from her shrapnel wounds that she suffered during the war that was obviously not her fault? Right? Like would it be better if I held my nose and refuse to engage in these compromises so these kids died? Would you be sort of happier, so you could writ...

Zoltan Barany on the Ineffectiveness of the Gulf Militaries 23.11.2021

The last time, and luckily this hasn't really happened since 1990, there was minimal resistance from the Kuwaiti and the Saudi forces. So, this obviously is 30 years ago, but there is little reason to believe that in spite of the hundreds of billions of dollars that is spent on armaments, this state of affairs has changed. Let me just put it this way. Nobody in Tehran is losing any sleep over...

Amory Gethin on Political Cleavages, Inequality, and Party Systems in 50 Democracies 16.11.2021

Indeed, the moderation of left-wing party’s economic policy proposals in the eighties and in the nineties and the decision to promote an unregulated capitalism with no kind of proper compensation and no tax harmonization leading to greater offshore wealth and rising inequality. All these decisions have played a role in leading the working class to take distance from these parties and, at the same...

Daniel Brinks on the Politics of Institutional Weakness 09.11.2021

We don't think about institutions until they fail and we think of institutions as being really strong when maybe they've never been challenged. They've never really tried to do anything. Daniel Brinks A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a short review of The Politics of Institutional Weakness in Latin America here . Daniel Brinks joins the podcast to discus...

Elizabeth Perry and Grzegorz Ekiert on State-Mobilized Movements 02.11.2021

What we are doing in this volume is blurring the boundaries between this older conception of top-down mobilized movements and this newer conception of bottom-up organic, spontaneous civil society propelled movements and discovering that there's an awful lot in the middle there. Elizabeth Perry A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a short review of Ruling by Other Mean...

Susan Rose-Ackerman on the Role of the Executive in Four Different Democracies 26.10.2021

Many of these things that you and I are talking about are simply initiatives put forward by the chief executive or maybe by a cabinet minister. Something they want to do and rather than something that they're required to do. And it seems to me that that's a rather fragile base on which to build a more effective participatory process, which doesn't give up on the role of technocracy...

Tom Ginsburg Shares his Thoughts on Democracy and International Law 19.10.2021

At the end of the day, I am optimistic despite all the evidence. First of all, I think there are a lot of resources that democracies can use. A lot of areas of law, where as long as we recognize what it is we're fighting for, democracy is worth fighting for and have a common view as to what that means that we can advance it in many places, not just here but abroad. And this might sound a litt...

Robert Meister Believes Justice is an Option 12.10.2021

So, now I've developed a way of talking about revolution as an option that can't be exercised, but that still has present value and I've set up a mechanism for saying what that present value is. Namely the value of the liquidity premium that a democracy that consents to maintaining accumulated wealth can extract for guaranteeing that the wealth continues to accumulate. Robert Meiste...

Martin Conway Believes "Democracy Owes its Durability Not to its Principles but to its Flexibility." Democracy in Western Europe from 1945 to 1968 05.10.2021

Where you and I and, I think, many others start from an assumption that somehow there is a thing called democracy and we sort of know what it is. But the diversity within democracy is far larger than that. You know, there's clear big institutional temperamental differences between visions of representatives ruling, people ruling, and so on. All these sorts of things are different models of de...

Donald Horowitz on the Formation of Democratic Constitutions 28.09.2021

The most beautiful thing that happened in Indonesia, by the way, which was a polarized society along religious lines more than anything else, was that by the end of the proceedings, everybody knew what everybody else's problems were, what everyone else's constituencies wanted. They knew if X noticed that Y was making a demand, before long X figured out what was behind the demand and why...

Guillermo Trejo and Sandra Ley on the Political Logic of Criminal Wars in Mexico 21.09.2021

Up to today, since the Mexican government deployed the military in 2006 up to the present, Mexico has experienced close to 200,000 battle deaths. That's roughly the number of battle deaths that took place in the civil war in Guatemala. So, the 36 year old civil war in Guatemala that produced approximately 200,000 battle deaths. That's where Mexico is right now. Guillermo Trejo A full tra...

Rana Siu Inboden on China and the International Human Rights Regime 14.09.2021

Chinese participation in the human rights regime probably was never really intended to alter human rights so much in China that it would jeopardize the Chinese Communist Party’s hold on power. I think China, even if it may have been open to some areas of human rights, I think that we have to keep in mind that the full implementation of human rights including all of the elements of the Universal De...

Timothy Frye Says Putin is a Weak Strongman 07.09.2021

Putin in the past could claim to have won at least an honest plurality, if not an honest majority of votes given his approval. However, in the upcoming election this fall, in September, it looks like the Kremlin has so restricted political competition that it's going to be a difficult sell to the Russian public to show that these elections are even as legitimate as the elections held in 2016...

Kathryn Stoner on Russia's Economy, Politics, and Foreign Policy 31.08.2021

Biden's current policy is, you know, we want Putin to calm down, be stable for awhile and turn our focus to restraining China. I don't think that's going to happen. That's not in his interest to do that. So, I think taking our eye off Russia, underestimating it, is the biggest concern for the U.S. currently. Kathryn Stoner A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox....

Karen Greenberg on the War on Terror, Donald Trump, and American Democracy 24.08.2021

It was an era in which lawmakers and office holders learned that imprecision could actually work to their benefit to allow them to do what they wanted to because there was unclear codification in the law. And so yes, everybody talks about, we have to revise this law or get rid of this law or replace this law. But I want to say, it's not about that. It's about what constitutes a legitimat...

Charles Kupchan on America's Tradition of Isolationism 17.08.2021

Beginning in the 1990s, and then really picking up after 9/11, the United States overreached ideologically by thinking it could turn Iraq and Afghanistan into Ohio. It overreached economically by throwing open the nation's doors and saying the more trade, the better. And suddenly, I think, Americans said to themselves and to their leaders, ‘Wait a minute. Too much world, not enough America.&a...

Aldo Madariaga on Neoliberalism, Democratic Deficits, and Chile 10.08.2021

It's not just inequality of wealth. It is not just inequality of income, which is big. It's also inequality in terms of the geographical clustering of different strata of the population, of different people. It's inequality in life experiences. It's inequality in treatment. People felt mistreated by those in the upper echelons of society. So, it's not just money. It's...

Roger Lee Huang on Myanmar, Aung San Suu Kyi, and the Tatmadaw 03.08.2021

I think this actually reflects why we've seen a coup now. Clearly, the coup has really brought serious economic devastation for the entire country and the military itself will also not benefit from this. And that to me is the key, because they're not primarily motivated just by economic incentives and spoils. As a systematic military institution, it is driven by their own identity. Their...

Mallory SoRelle on the Politics of Consumer Credit 27.07.2021

Americans are expected to take on debt, because that's how we're expected to finance everything from basic needs to a college education. And that's a function of economic policy making. That doesn't happen by accident. Mallory SoRelle A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com . Mallory SoRelle is an assistant professor of public policy at Duke University and th...

David Stasavage on Early Democracy and its Decline 20.07.2021

This was not a phenomenon to one specific region. This was nothing that got invented in one place and at one time. It seems to have emerged independently in a wide, wide variety of human societies at different points in time. And to me, that sounds like something that occurs naturally. David Stasavage A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com . David Stasavage is the Dean of Socia...

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