Bree Gorman
DEI Will Not Die
Is DEI dead? Not even close. DEI Will Not DIE cuts through the noise with sharp, practical insights for DEI practitioners, people leaders and changemakers. Hosted by Bree Gorman, coach, consultant and trusted voice in DEI strategy and inclusive leadership. This podcast dives into the real work behind impactful equity and inclusion. From building DEI plans that don't gather dust to leading with authenticity, this is your space to reflect, learn and lead with purpose.
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Episodes
21: AI and DEI: it's not either/or 02.07.2026 18:53
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Bree Gorman takes on one of the most charged topics in the field right now: artificial intelligence, and what it means for diversity, equity and inclusion. Rather than landing on whether AI is "good" or "bad" for inclusion, Bree makes the case that it is both at once. It creates genuine access and equity for people who have long been excluded, while at the same...
20: Ripples of Inclusion: Anti-racism as a gateway with Carrie Sawyer 18.06.2026 31:47
Bree's first international guest, Carrie Sawyer, joins to talk about her book Ripples of Inclusion. a question-and-answer guide to anti-racism that grew out of the conversations people were having after the murder of George Floyd in 2020. Carrie and Bree dig into why "can't we just get along?" is more loaded than it sounds, how privilege becomes harmful through gaslighting rather than its existenc...
19: When Structure Does the Inclusion Work for You 04.06.2026 26:45
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Bree Gorman is joined by Dr. Judy Lundy to explore what becomes possible when organisations build a structure that doesn't rely on a traditional hierarchy. Judy shares her lifelong connection to equity, from being told at 14 that she couldn't train guide dogs because she was a girl, to her current work teaching and researching diversity, equity and inclusion. T...
18: ADHD at Work: One Size Does Not Fit All (Part 2) 21.05.2026 19:53
In part two of their ADHD series, Dr Bree Gorman shifts from friction points to practical strategies for managers, peers, and people with ADHD themselves. Bree unpacks what actually helps ADHDers thrive at work: redefining productivity away from desk time, building structured flexibility, breaking work into chunks, reducing cognitive load, and normalising different working styles. They also call o...
17: Built to Exclude: Why Disabled Leaders Are Still Underrepresented 07.05.2026 29:33
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman is joined by leadership coach, speaker, and CEO of the Disability Leadership Institute, Christina Ryan, to explore the barriers disabled leaders face, and what it really takes to design workplaces that work for everyone. Together, they unpack the assumptions that sit beneath traditional leadership development, why disability is so often misunders...
16: ADHD at Work: Motivation, Burnout and Better Workplaces (Part 1) 23.04.2026 21:17
ADHD isn't just an attention issue and most workplaces still don't understand that. In Part 1 of this two-part episode, Dr Bree Gorman shares their lived experience of ADHD at work and why motivation, regulation and environment matter more than people think. From deadline panic and burnout cycles to admin paralysis and rigid productivity norms, Bree unpacks what gets in the way and what actually h...
15: Intersex Inclusion at Work: Why Adding the 'I' Isn't Enough 09.04.2026 28:34
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman is joined by Paul Byrne-Moroney to unpack what meaningful inclusion of the intersex community actually requires. Paul shares his lived experience to challenge common misunderstandings about intersex, including the tendency to conflate biological sex with gender identity. Together, Bree and Paul explore why intersex is not a gender identity or sex...
14: It's More Than Pronouns: Building Real Trans Inclusion at Work 26.03.2026 22:54
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores what meaningful trans and gender diverse inclusion actually looks like inside organisations. Bree challenges the common starting point of "rolling out pronouns" and explains why visibility initiatives alone do not create safer workplaces. Instead, real inclusion requires organisations to examine the systems and structures that shape peop...
13: Compliance Won't Save You: The Leadership Accountability DEI Requires 12.03.2026 23:52
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr. Bree Gorman is joined by Belonging and Inclusion Strategist and Founder of Belonging Co, Mantej Singh, to explore how leaders can move beyond compliance and tokenism in DEI work. Together, they unpack seven barriers that Mantej believes stall meaningful progress, including HR-only ownership, compliance mindsets, delegation without accountability, and what r...
12: Recruitment Changes Who Enters. Culture Decides Who Stays. 26.02.2026 20:40
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr. Bree Gorman explores recruitment as a powerful, but often over-relied-on tool for building diverse, equitable and inclusive workplaces. Bree unpacks why improving hiring processes alone isn't enough, and how recruitment changes can fall flat when they're not supported by broader system change across the organisation. Drawing on experience, Bree examines whe...
11: Gender Equality Action Plans 12.02.2026 20:02
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman unpacks the limits of gender equality action plans when intersectionality is treated as an afterthought. They explore how compliance-driven approaches can unintentionally widen privilege gaps and pull organisations away from more holistic DEI work. Drawing on real-world experience, Bree challenges "fix the people" programs and makes the case for...
10: Why DEI Demands More Than Compliance 18.12.2025 28:23
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman sits down with gender equality leader Michelle Redfern to explore what it really means for organisations to choose the "right side of history" when it comes to DEI. They unpack why compliance and quotas aren't enough on their own, how global politics influences corporate strategy, and why intersectionality must sit at the centre of any genuine ge...
09: Calling In, Calling Out, Calling On 04.12.2025 22:43
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores how we respond when harmful behaviours show up in our workplaces. From microaggressions and exclusionary comments to ongoing discrimination, Bree unpacks the difference between calling in, calling out, and calling on, and how each approach can support learning without compromising safety or accountability. Drawing on research and real-li...
08: Behind the Scenes: How I Became a DEI Consultant 20.11.2025 23:23
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman reflects on how transferable skills can shape a meaningful career in DEI. From their beginnings as an analytical chemist to becoming a DEI strategist, Bree shares how critical thinking, stakeholder engagement, and bridging divides all play a role in creating more inclusive workplaces. They also open up about navigating ADHD, career transitions, a...
07: No One Is An Expert: Why DEI Thrives on Collaboration 06.11.2025 30:54
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman and Andrew Fitisemanu explore what it really means to be a DEI consultant in today's world. They unpack the myth of "expertise" in a field that's still growing and discuss why humility, honesty, and collaboration are essential for lasting impact. Drawing on personal experiences and candid reflections, Bree and Andrew share insights on protecting...
06: Rethinking Employee Resource Groups 23.10.2025 18:44
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores the role of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) and how to build inclusion in long-standing organisations. Creating meaningful DEI change isn't straightforward, existing structures, competing priorities, and unclear objectives can all get in the way. Bree shares insights on how to start with a DEI action plan, clarify the purpose of ERGs, an...
05: When to Nudge, When to Nurture 09.10.2025 25:01
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr. Bree Gorman is joined by Winitha Bonney OAM for a conversation on how DEI practitioners can influence leaders and organisations. DEI work can be uncomfortable, and resistance from leadership is common. So how do you bring leaders on board, understand what drives them, and know when to push forward or when to pause and re-assess? Drawing on their own experie...
04: Who Does DEI Work Belong To? 25.09.2025 19:09
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman unpacks the question: Who does DEI work really belong to? Bree explores why DEI can't be the responsibility of just one person or department. From the challenges of experts being buried under management layers to the importance of valuing DEI as a specialist skill set, this episode highlights what it truly takes to create lasting systems change....
03: Performative or Transformative? How to Tell the Difference 11.09.2025 27:16
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman sits down with DEI leader Teresa Lombardo to unpack the difference between performative and transformative DEI. From rainbow lanyards to LinkedIn posts on days of significance, Bree and Teresa get real about why signs and symbols matter—but only when backed by action. They discuss what true system-level change requires, why leadership accountabil...
02: The DEI Plan That Actually Gets Done 28.08.2025 20:08
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman gets candid about why so many DEI strategies fail, and how to create one that actually sparks change. From shifting the focus from "fixing people" to fixing systems, to avoiding the trap of vague metrics and tokenistic actions, Bree shares practical insights to make your plan both realistic and impactful. They discuss why too many actions can bac...
01: Is DEI Dead? Why the Work Matters Now More Than Ever 14.08.2025 12:59
In this debut episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman lays the foundation for the podcast with a clear message: while the language and tactics of DEI may change, the need for inclusive, equitable workplaces never goes away. Bree shares the personal and professional journey that led them into diversity, equity and inclusion work—covering everything from higher education to consultancy, ADHD and...
Welcome to DEI Will Not Die 18.06.2025 2:13
https://www.breegorman.com/podcast/Is DEI dead? Not even close. DEI Will Not DIE cuts through the noise with sharp, practical insights for DEI practitioners, people leaders and changemakers. Hosted by Bree Gorman, coach, consultant and trusted voice in DEI strategy and inclusive leadership. This podcast dives into the real work behind impactful equity and inclusion. From building DEI plans that do...
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