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Defending Ideas
Defending Ideas is a weekly podcast produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense conservatism, by equipping listeners to become more effective champions of sound principle and good policy. Visit defendingideas.org .
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Jul 7, 2026
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The human benefits of AI | Shoshana Weissmann 07.07.2026 39:55
Is artificial intelligence something to fear—or a tool to help us thrive? In this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn talks with Shoshana Weissmann, Digital Director and Policy Advisor at Abundance Institute, about the positive opportunities AI creates for workers, patients, creators, and entrepreneurs. Weissmann shares how AI has helped her navigate complex medical issues, as well as how sh...
The Future of Conservatism: Principles, Populism, and the American Founding | Tim Chapman 30.06.2026 50:47
Conservatism is at a crossroads. Does it stick with Trump-style populism, or embrace the principles of limited, effective government that led to some of the movement's biggest victories? In this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn sits down with Tim Chapman, president of Advancing American Freedom, to discuss the future of conservatism, the enduring principles of the American founding, the rise o...
The U.S. needs a new safety net | Angela Rachidi 23.06.2026 44:22
Congress is considering a major anti-poverty reform: giving states more flexibility to redesign welfare and social safety net programs. In this episode, AEI Senior Fellow Angela Rachidi joins host Nic Dunn to discuss benefit cliffs, the Upward Mobility Act, and whether state-led innovation could help more families achieve self-reliance through things like empowerment accounts. Defending Ideas is a...
The roadmap to restore trust in elections | Matthew Weil & Derek Monson 16.06.2026 47:39
Election integrity is back in the headlines. But beneath the political arguments lies a more important question: what actually builds trust in elections? On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn is joined by Matthew Weil, Vice President of Governance and Bipartisanship at the Bipartisan Policy Center, along with Sutherland Institute Executive Director Derek Monson. They discuss California’s b...
Rebuilding trust in America's elections | Ben Ginsberg & Bill Duncan 09.06.2026 44:12
Debates over election integrity have dominated American politics for years. But beneath many of those disagreements lies a deeper constitutional question: who should be responsible for administering elections? On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn is joined by Ben Ginsberg , Volker Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution, election law expert, and former counsel to multiple...
What the Declaration of Independence still teaches us | Jay Lapeyre & Lawson Bader 02.06.2026 53:32
As America marks the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, an important question remains: what do the nation’s founding principles have to say about the challenges we face today? On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Jay Lapeyre , co-founder of the Free Society Coalition, and Lawson Bader , president and CEO of DonorsTrust, to discuss the enduring ideas th...
Can a return to federalism fix our politics? | Rep. Ken Ivory & Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost 26.05.2026 56:17
What if one of the biggest solutions to America’s political dysfunction isn’t electing better people, but restoring the principles of federalism? In this episode of Defending Ideas , Nic Dunn speaks with two Utah representatives, Rep. Jennifer Dailey-Provost and Rep. Ken Ivory , about the constitutional balance between state and federal power. They discuss polarization, congressional dysfunction,...
Who should protect kids online? | Joel Thayer & Chris Marchese 19.05.2026 57:06
As lawmakers debate how to protect children online, a major legal and constitutional question is emerging: should app stores be required to verify users’ ages and involve parents before minors download apps? On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn is joined by Joel Thayer, president of the Digital Progress Institute , Chris Marchese, founder and co-director of the NetChoice Litigation Cente...
Are we thinking about AI the wrong way? | Bennett Borden 12.05.2026 43:26
Many conversations about artificial intelligence focus on fear, risk, and worst-case scenarios. But what if we’re asking the wrong questions? Host Nic Dunn is joined by Bennett Borden , founder and CEO of Clarion AI Partners, along with Sutherland Institute's Derek Monson , to explore how AI is already positively affecting health care, education, government, and family life. Their conversation exa...
Is the Supreme Court as political as we think? | Sarah Isgur 05.05.2026 43:11
The U.S. Supreme Court is often portrayed as just another political battleground. But that is a fundamental misunderstanding of its role. On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn speaks with Sarah Isgur about her new book, Last Branch Standing: A Potentially Surprising, Occasionally Witty Journey Inside Today's Supreme Court . They cover how the Court actually works and why it doesn’t fit neat...
America’s safety net needs an aspirational vision 28.04.2026 11:31
America’s safety net wasn’t designed all at once. It was built piece by piece over decades, and that may be part of the problem. On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn asks what real progress in social welfare reform should look like and whether it’s time to rethink the system from the ground up. He explores how benefit cliffs and program fragmentation can hold families back, why states like...
How states can redesign the safety net | Aly Rau Brodsky 21.04.2026 54:49
America’s safety net is designed to help people in times of need. But what happens after that initial help is provided? On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Aly Rau Brodsky , executive vice president and chief strategy officer at the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity , to explore how states can improve upward mobility and better support families. Their conversa...
Returning to principles in American politics | Josh Lewis 14.04.2026 31:07
As America approaches its 250th anniversary, many political debates feel increasingly focused on personalities, parties, and division rather than principles. On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Josh Lewis , host of the Saving Elephants podcast, to discuss how to bring principled thinking back to the center of American political life. Their conversation explores the role...
Can we fix America’s toxic political culture? | Josh Bandoch 07.04.2026 49:33
Political debates today often feel more like battles than conversations. But what if the deeper problem in our disagreements is that we have forgotten how persuasion actually works? On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Josh Bandoch , author of How to Get What You Want: Mastering the Art and Science of Persuasion, to examine why political culture has become so polarized a...
The future of conservatism and a return to first principles | Donald Bryson 31.03.2026 44:07
Conservatism is facing a defining moment. As debates over government power, political personalities, federalism, and first principles move to the center of public life, a fundamental question is emerging: what exactly should conservatism be trying to conserve? On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Donald Bryson , president and CEO of the John Locke Foundation , to examine...
Is family life still doable today? | Francesco Di Lillo 24.03.2026 46:11
Family policy debates often focus on affordability, housing, or cultural change. But a deeper question is emerging: do young people still believe family life is even possible? On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn is joined by Francesco Di Lillo, director of the European Union and International Affairs Office for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Derek Monson, Suther...
Shaping AI for human flourishing | Medlir Mema 17.03.2026 53:08
Artificial intelligence is advancing rapidly, but who should shape how it develops? On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn speaks with Medlir Mema , director of the AI Ethics and Governance Institute, and Sutherland's Derek Monson , about what it means to build AI that promotes human flourishing. Their conversation explores the ethical questions surrounding AI, the role of civil societ...
The Upward Mobility Act | Sen. Husted & Rep. Moore 10.03.2026 38:06
America’s safety net is meant to help families get back on their feet. But too often, it does the opposite by discouraging work and earnings due to benefit cliffs. On this episode of Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn sits down with U.S. Senator from Ohio, Jon Husted , and U.S. Representative from Utah, Blake Moore , to discuss their new legislation : The Upward Mobility Act . This new bipartisan pr...
Putting parents in the driver’s seat of public education | Jude Schwalbach 03.03.2026 37:01
Open enrollment is one of the most overlooked forms of school choice in America. While debates often focus on private school vouchers or charter expansion, families in many states already have the ability to choose among public schools — at least in theory. On this episode, host Nic Dunn is joined by Christine Cooke Fairbanks , Sutherland's education policy fellow, and Jude Schwalbach , Reason Fou...
The welfare maze no one can navigate | Clarence H. Carter 24.02.2026 50:40
According to some estimates, America spends nearly $1.5 trillion each year across 114 federal programs designed to fight poverty and support vulnerable families. So why do so many families remain stuck? On this episode of Defending Ideas , Nic Dunn sits down with Clarence H. Carter , commissioner of the Tennessee Department of Human Services and author of " Our Net Has Holes in It ," for an insid...
Can we fix Utah's literacy crisis? | Andrea Brandley, Carolyn Sharette, and Leland Anderson 17.02.2026 1:02:07
Utah’s literacy rates have become a statewide priority — and for good reason. In this episode of Defending Ideas , Nic Dunn and Sutherland's education expert Christine Cooke Fairbanks sit down with Andrea Brandley , senior education analyst at the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute, Carolyn Sharette , president of American Preparatory Schools, and Leland Anderson , principal of American Heritage Scho...
Why centralizing elections could weaken election integrity | Derek Monson 10.02.2026 49:28
Pres. Donald Trump's recent call to nationalize elections has reignited debates about election security, federal power, and the proper role of states. This week, Nic Dunn sits down with Sutherland Institute's Derek Monson to discuss why the Constitution clearly states that election policy is primarily a state matter, and how that actually makes voting more secure. They also explore multiple bills...
Utah, Upward Mobility, and the Future of the American Dream | Justin Callais 03.02.2026 42:22
A new national report ranks all 50 states on upward mobility — and Utah comes out on top. In this episode of Defending Ideas , Nic Dunn sits down with Archbridge Institute Chief Economist Justin Callais to unpack what upward mobility really looks like, why states play a decisive role, and what policymakers can learn from the states that are getting it right. Show Notes: Social Mobility in the 50 S...
Religious freedom, courts, and federalism in Utah | Bill Duncan 27.01.2026 41:53
With Utah's legislative session underway, lawmakers are weighing major questions about religious freedom, judicial authority, and the proper balance of power between states and the federal government. In this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn is joined by Sutherland's constitutional law and religious freedom fellow, Bill Duncan , to preview the key bills driving these debates. Their conversati...
The big education debates facing Utah in 2026 | Christine Cooke Fairbanks 20.01.2026 35:50
Utah’s 2026 legislative session is shaping up to be one of the most consequential for education in recent years. In this episode of Defending Ideas , host Nic Dunn is joined by Sutherland's Christine Cooke Fairbanks to break down the biggest education debates lawmakers are preparing to take on, from classroom technology and literacy policy to school choice, accountability, and the evolving role o...
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