John & Sara
D’Amato & Szabo: Wine Thieves
A riveting insider's look at the world of fine wine. Telling the stories of the people and the places that shape the world’s most compelling finds. John Szabo, Master Sommelier and Sara d’Amato, a jack of all wine trades, get to the root of the vine.
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Episodes
S3 E9: Inside Vinitaly and the Vinitaly International Academy, with Stevie Kim 29.06.2026 1:12:41
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Wine Thieves, Sara d'Amato and John Szabo MS turn their attention to one of the most important institutions in global wine: Vinitaly. Guest Stevie Kim — Managing Partner of Vinitaly and the founding force behind the Vinitaly International Academy (VIA) — joins from New York for a wide-ranging conversation about Italian wine on the world stage. Sara and...
S3E8: A Tale of Two Crozes-Hermitage, with Daphné Chave and David Combier 12.01.2026 1:19:24
Send us Fan Mail Its’ syrah-o’clock somewhere and the Wine Thieves are back to unlock the secrets of the northern Rhone’s largest appellation where syrah takes many shapes: Crozes-Hermitage. But it’s really a tale of two crozes, two very distinct parts. There’s what growers refer to as the northern half of Crozes-Hermitage to the north of the imposing hill of Hermitage itself – where it is narrowe...
S3 E7: Meet me in Paris? A Conversation with Wine Paris CEO Rodolphe Lameyse 11.12.2023 49:17
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we take a look behind the scenes of one of the wine and spirits industry’s most important trade fairs: Wine Paris and Vinexpo Paris. The Thieves speak with with Rodolphe Lameyse, CEO of Vinexposium, the company that runs the fair – and spoiler alert: Wine Paris and Vinexpo Paris are two names for the same show – Rodolphe explains why the trade fair has a dual name...
S3 E6: Mapping Chianti Classico's UGAs Part 2 with Alessandro Masnaghetti and Caterina Mori 11.10.2023 1:13:37
Send us Fan Mail The Wine Thieves are back with part two of a series on the Unità Geografiche Aggiuntivi of Chianti Classico (or UGAs) the recently announced additional geographic units that will begin appearing on labels of the Chianti Classico Gran Selezione category as of this year. Joining us again are Caterina Mori, Director of Communications for the Chianti Classico Consorzio, and the "...
S3E5: A Gran Win for Chianti Classico - Part 1 on The New UGAs with Alessandro Masnaghetti and Caterina Mori 05.10.2023 1:25:07
Send us Fan Mail In part one of this two-part episode, the Thieves go behind the scene in Chianti Classico with Caterina Mori, director of Communication for the Consorzio Vino Chianti Classico and Alessandro Masnaghetti, aka Map Man Masnaghetti, to take a deep dive into the recently approved “added geographic units” of this important Tuscan region , which were officially signed into law this past...
S3E4 Chianti Classico: Past, Present and Future with Giovanni Manetti, Chairman of the Consorzio Chianti Classico 27.09.2023 1:13:03
Send us Fan Mail The first of a three-part journey into Chianti Classico. in this episode we look at the past, present and future of the denominazione with our special guest, Giovanni Manetti, Chariman of the Chianti Classico Consorzio and proprietor of the venerated Fontodi estate in Panzano. This is Manetti’s second term as the Chairman , where he has been a driving force of innovation and evol...
S3E3 South Africa: The Wild Side with Pieter Walser & Peter Allan Finlayson 11.06.2023 1:06:50
Send us Fan Mail The Thieves embark on a South African “wine safari” with Pieter Walser of Blank Bottle Wines based in Sommerset West near Stellenbosch, one of the most unusual and innovative wine businesses anywhere, and Peter-Allan Finlayson of Crystallum Wines and Gabrielskloof in the Bot River region. Finlayson is a third generation winemaker and the son of the man who pioneered Pinot Noir w...
S3E2: Practical, Philosophical, and Moral Dimensions of Biodynamics with Rodrigo Soto and John Hamel 04.03.2023 1:14:34
Send us Fan Mail This episode takes a wide-ranging look at biodynamic agriculture, which, perhaps not so coincidentally, seems to be the foundational philosophy underlying a disproportionately large percentage of the world’s best wines. The Thieves speak with two prominent Californian practitioners of biodynamics to discuss several aspects of this philosophy-cum-practical manifesto, first develope...
S2E10: Portugal's Leading Brands Safeguarding Lands with Martim Guedes, Luís Almada, and Pedro da Fonseca 25.01.2023 1:01:28
Send us Fan Mail Originally aired November 2022 : The Thieves are back in Europe to explore the wealth of indigenous grape varieties and stunning stunning old vineyards found in Portugal. Exactly how this sliver of the Iberian peninsula has been able to safeguard traditions, vineyards and distinctive regional character is what Sara and John are out to learn in this special reissue episode. They...
S3 E1: Lighten Up! Australia's Refreshing Reds with Mac Forbes and Sam Berketa 12.01.2023 59:45
Send us Fan Mail We’re kicking off 2023 and season three of the podcast with a look at one of the hottest wine trends down under: cool and fresh red wines from Australia. Once famous, and still well-known for robust, full-bodied, sunshine-filled jammy reds, today there’s serious momentum gathering, and already flowing, for lighter styles of red, fresher, less oaky, with lower alcohol and higher dr...
S2E11: Ontario: The Chopin of Chardonnay with Andrew Jefford 04.11.2022 48:53
Send us Fan Mail With a broad, international perspective, award-winning author, Decanter columnist and broadcaster, Andrew Jefford shares his thoughts on Ontario Chardonnay after his role as a keynote speaker at this year's i4C (International Cool Climate Celebration) in Niagara, Ontario. Join John & Sara as they listen in to Jefford's consequential speech which connects the dynamic...
S2E10: Portugal's Leading Brands Safeguarding Lands with Martim Guedes, Luís Almada, and Pedro da Fonseca 26.10.2022 1:01:06
Send us Fan Mail The Thieves are back in Europe to explore the wealth of indigenous grape varieties and stunning stunning old vineyards found in Portugal. Exactly how this sliver of the Iberian peninsula has been able to safeguard traditions, vineyards and distinctive regional character is what Sara and John are out to learn. They have a hunch that large-volume producers have a role to play, an...
S2E9: Australia's Refreshing Whites, with Louisa Rose of Hill-Smith Family Vineyards and Con-Greg Grigoriou of Delinquente Wine Co. 07.09.2022 57:56
Send us Fan Mail The Wine Thieves are finally back with a new episode, perfect for the late summer, at least in the northern hemisphere, in which we share some cool news and information on the white wines of Australia. Many picture Australia as a warm country with beautiful beaches and great surfing, well suited to heat-loving red grapes like grenache, shiraz and mourvèdre (aka mataro) that mak...
S2 E8: The Old Vines Project, A South African Perspective with Rosa Kruger and Andre Morgenthal 18.06.2022 1:04:39
Send us Fan Mail In today’s episode: how cataloguing old vines in South Africa has raised standards for fair employment, and sustainable farming and may just prove the key to solving the problem of the country’s most prevalent vine virus. We continue investigating the topic of old vines, this time from a different perspective, as we look to the Certified Heritage Vineyards of South Africa. We hop...
S2E7: Old Vines Myths & Facts: the South Australian Perspective with Prue Henschke and Dr. Dylan Grigg 29.05.2022 1:02:36
Send us Fan Mail Today's episode takes a critical look at the fashionable and fascinating subject of old vines, some extremely old, how they got so old, how they perform and the wines they produce. Do they make better wine than young vines? The Wine Thieves ask two world experts from South Australia to weigh in: Prue Henschke, viticulturist for the renowned Henschke winery, including two of...
S2 E6: Technicolour Beaujolais with Mee Goddard, Cyril Chirouze, and Mathieu Lapierre 06.05.2022 1:17:24
Send us Fan Mail Who doesn't love Beaujolais? This in-depth episode is all about this picturesque, hilly region and its geological and stylistic diversity. Recent cataloguing of the Beaujolais soils helped bring to light over 300 soil profiles that have been analyzed and described by geologists in tandem with growers, underscoring that diversity (be sure to check out the soil map, published...
S2E5: Massaging the Octopus: Galician Cuisine & Rias Baixas with Michelin chef Pepe Solla 27.04.2022 49:55
Send us Fan Mail The Wine Thieves venture out beyond wine (but not too far) to speak with Michelin starred chef-sommelier José González-Solla (Pepe to his friends) of the renowned Casa Solla, near Pontevedra in Galicia. Once-known for its excellent, traditional, home cooking, when Solla took over from his parents he transformed the business through his inventive style of cooking that's stil...
S2E4: Rias Baixas: Albariño & Friends in O Rosal with Emilio Rodriguez of Terras Gauda 15.04.2022 51:30
Send us Fan Mail In Episode 4 in a five-part series on Rias Baixas, the Wine Thieves speak with winemaker Emilio Rodriguez of the Terras Gauda winery in O Rosal, the largest privately owned winery in Rias Baixas. Emilio has been at Terras Gauda for longer than he can remember, and he is a big fan of some of the other native grapes of the region beyond Albariño, especially caiño blanco. He speaks...
S2E3: Rias Baixas: Redefining Albariño in the County of Tea with Isabel Salgado of Fillaboa 06.04.2022 42:32
Send us Fan Mail Rias Baixas episode 3 of a five-part series: redefining Albariño, emerging styles, ageworthy wines, and the Condado do Tea subregion with special guest Isabel Salgado, winemaker at Fillaboa. In this episode we shift our focus over to the Condado do Tea sub-region. Condado de Tea is the second largest sub-region of the five, behind the Salnès Valley. It starts inland from O Rosal a...
S2E2: Rias Baixas: The Secret of Salinity in Wine with Diego Rios of Granbazán 01.04.2022 1:02:12
Send us Fan Mail This is part two of a five-part series on the Wine of Rias Baixas. In the first episode, we took you through the region, including a brief history and the technical details of climate and soils, sub-regions and the denominación of origin rules and regulations. If you missed it, you may want to go back and have a listen to our interview Katia Alvarez, winemaker at the Martin Codax...
S2E1: Rias Baixas: Reaching for Sunlight with Katia Alvarez of Martín Codax 25.03.2022 58:00
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back and thank you for joining us for another season of Wine Thieves! We're off to a fresh start with our latest series in which we explore albariño, seaside vineyards and fresh Atlantic wines as we travel through the diverse wine-growing region of Rias Baixas. This small corner of northwestern “Green Spain” in the region of Galicia has emerged over the last couple o...
From the Archives: Riesling Day: 586(7) Years Young! 13.03.2022 1:02:39
Send us Fan Mail A replay of last year's terrific episode celebrating Riesling day, March 19th, featuring Johannes Selbach (Selbach-Oster) of the Mosel Valley, Johannes Leitz from the Rheingau, Philip Wittman of the Rheinhessen, and twins Hans and Valentin Rebholz of Ökonomierat Rebholz. The earliest-known written record of Riesling dates back precisely to March 13, 1435 in Germany, in the...
S1E58: A Toast to Yerevan! With Mariam Sagetelyan 24.12.2021 46:35
Send us Fan Mail This is the last in our 5-part series featuring Armenia’s modern wine renaissance and our final episode of 2021. This time we focus on what’s most important, that is . . . eating and drinking in Yerevan, the capital of Armenia! Following the evolution of wine culture in the country that moved from a brandy-producing and brandy drinking culture to embracing their millennia-old wine...
S1E57: No Branch, No Wine, No Service! Viennese Drinking Habits with Fritz Wieninger and Alex Zahel 10.12.2021 1:05:25
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, the Thieves visit one of the world’s great wine capitals: Vienna. Up until the late Middle Ages, grapevines were still growing within city walls in what is now the first district in the heart of Vienna. Vineyards were slowly pushed to the outskirts, but Vienna remains the only European capital to have acreage of commercial consequence; just under 600ha are plante...
S1E56: Styria, Steeply, Sauvignon with Alex Sattler of Sattlerhof, and Stefan Tement of Weingut Tement 03.12.2021 57:45
Send us Fan Mail You probably already know about Austrian grüner veltliner. It’s the country’s most planted variety, and the wine you’re most likely to find on store shelves and restaurant wine lists. You may even know that Austria makes exceptional riesling and fine reds from local specialties like blaufränkisch and sankt laurent. But what may be news is that this middle European country is also...
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