Lol Tolhurst & Budgie
Curious Creatures
Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
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Lol Tolhurst & Budgie
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Apr 18, 2024
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Episodes
Rachel Goswell Pt. 2: Female Energy 05.01.2023 28:08
Breaking Silence. This is Rachel’s first interview in three years - we are honoured. Serendipity. Rachel saw Lol Kissing on tour - or did Rachel see Lol on the Kissing tour? Slowdive’s future drummer Simon was two rows behind Rachel Though they didn’t meet for another 1000 days. Splendiferous. Kabuki intro made the crowd go mental Spinal Tap moment Pornography playing 100 years without a crash...
Rachel Goswell Pt. 1: The Solitary and The Sociable 15.12.2022 33:11
Bits and Bobs Rachel’s in Devon where Lol once lived too My flower or Mayflower? It’s a right how-do-you-do! ‘Where you to?’ is ‘What’s up!’ - like a cream tea served The Pilgrims’ Olde English in Aspic preserved Bobs and Books Log cabin moves and Festival grooves It was Great to be out of the Books From Solitary to Socialising Playing Gigs and Fraternising After 3 years preparing the Hooks Bo...
Simone Marie Butler Pt. 2: All the Isms and Schisms 08.12.2022 29:10
The Isms Cometh! Budgie and The iconic Slits - Holly Johnson as a bad-ass-bass-player! 8th notes on the floortom - how LOW can you GO?) Don’t lose it - let your individuality flow. Simone cites Motown’s James Lee Emerson, Blockheads’ Norman Watt Roy And our old pal Simon Gallup as bass mentors. Plays like Poetry! Lol says Budgie is drums, Budgie says Lol is Drums, Lol says Bidgie is drims, Bad...
Simone Marie Butler Pt. 1: The Chemistry Makes The Band 01.12.2022 41:03
The Sand. Out there, post-lockdown Screamadelica tour Tokyo, Japan and everywhere more Traditional politeness for the visiting Brits First gigs post-pandemic, please play all the hits! Lol liked the silence and the gifts from Japan But he drank all the bath salts, which wasn’t the plan Simone received sweetness to comb through her hair Budgie got Pocari Sweat at the Manga Street fair Cherry...
Jennifer Otter Bickerdike Pt. 2: Down At The Glue Factory! 24.11.2022 29:29
Lol and Budgie Join Hands in 1979 40 Years Beyond Music = The Mystique of Creating Culture Two Drummers Drumming = Our Mutual Bond A Gang of Starving Artists = Salt Scrub Therapy? Books and Records = Earth and Identity Art and Money - Bad in Bed? Music as Religion and Revolution Budgie meets Francis Bacon in Harrods & Lucien Freud in NY? Another Green World just two beats away. Jen has a S...
Jennifer Otter Bickerdike Pt. 1: Pyramid Schemes, a Hooker for Jesus and the Church of Whatever 17.11.2022 38:21
Jen Loves Us ! We are Nerds, Podcast virgins, we are old dogs for new we have Budgie as Yenta - we have Lol in his pew we have weddings in the desert - at the Church of Whatever, Budgie Tambourines for Jesus – it’s a Hooker’s Endeavour. Rock Star Cult! Like a Hawk holding Rings from Monday ‘til Sunday Every night is a Saturday when you’re in a band On a two-year tour – Jen’s teen love was the...
Martin Atkins: The Hairs of the Dogs 10.11.2022 41:53
(Hello, Virgin Records?) Every mile away from London Is a mile away from where he needed to be. Subsequent Chronological Milestones: PIL (The Good Years) 79 - 85 / Killing Joke - Extremities / Ministry - In A Cage - 12 Weeks of insanity Pig Face – 600 degrees of separation - Budgie has the baseball cap! NIN’S Head like a Hole and Wish / Murder Inc and still out there! Street lives…. (Rail ‘e...
Pepper Somerset: Crimes Against Humanity 03.11.2022 35:14
Pepper Loves TKK NYC 1000 Years ago Lol jumps Boulders in Central Park Banshees at the Beacon Theatre Lol and The Cure again for Reflections Budgie at The Mayflower and The Grammercy Park Watch out for the Cockroaches! Lol Loves LA - Home Sweet Home! Not Discovered or Destroyed Personalities and Support Systems Pepper’s NYC lockdown - Throwing tips for food. Booster Party Time! Budgie and Pepp...
The Beatles Beatbox Us To It? 27.10.2022 12:49
Q:1 Mark C of the Gold Coast asks will Budgie make a Beatboxing debut? Budgie demonstrates the orifice-ial beats to ‘El Dia De Los Muertos’ and ‘Tattoo’. Maybe a beatbox compilation? Q:2 Eric Vonk asks about the 1980’s synth-drum – did we fall in love? Lol went, Tsch-tsch, Stephen Morris went, ka-ka-ka-ka and Budgie went, Dink-dink & Drooove! We all were in danger of serious wrist injury – b...
What Did We Say? 20.10.2022 24:23
Only his mother and Micky D., call Lol, Laurence Budgie posits, Micky D., polished the shoes on the tour bus Were the banshees upset when Robert left the Banshees? What would have happened - had that not happened? Strangeness in the Studio Robert there, but not there - nothing was said there. Bobby Keys only for Hyaena - It was a long album. Bob’s position was untenable. Ideal of the band was...
Graham Elliot: Master Chef Extraordinaire 13.10.2022 35:07
Pulling Back the Curtain: Spicy… Lollapalooza and President Obama, all Presidents want to be chefs, All chefs want to be rock stars, do all Presidents want to be rock stars? Why is going to shows no Fun anymore? We stand at the turning point, no longer second guessing. Lol reveals the live ‘Holy Hour’ bell is the sound from the record Sweet…. The Art of Cooking as a Creative force, Do chefs pe...
Justin Pearson Pt. 2: Straight Edge Foodies 06.10.2022 26:49
Landscape redefined by skateboarder Mason, Silva planned routines to Budgies drums It’s the space outside of the sound we’re chasin’ Cinematic for the Banshees and their chums Images influenced the sounds created Alfred Hitchock - Suburban Relapse The shower scene in Psycho, a shrine, gold-plated Herrmann’s score hitting every synapse. (Pause – aka: dead airtime – but not this time!) Ch...
Justin Pearson: The Decline of Western Civilization? 29.09.2022 37:12
He’s a reasonable Philatelist, Not an Apathetic Nihilist He’s a Dead Cross massive influence for The Locust, He’s a Wild scene Iguana, No Tequila in Tijuana! He just picked up the monitor and tore off his thumb 4 pm is an angry time for NIN to be on stage The Opposite of Love Is Apathy, Not Nihilism or Rage When Lol saw the same back in 76 and 77 He went down to his local pub to meet people...
‘Ere we go, Doin’ that Thang!!! 22.09.2022 20:45
Q:1 Anima Animus – says, “HAI!” and She asks, Was anything Left un-released? Was anything Right un-released? Q:2 Existential Edgar asks, Will IT ever See the light of day - Probably not - No titles available. Q:3 Thomas Jackson asks, (2 Presidents worth of questions!) Is all Quiet on The Eastern Seaboard? Has he really listened to every episode of Curious Creatures? Q:4 How many Sips of tea in o...
The Dandy Warhols Pt. 2: Sweeping It Under The Carpet! 15.09.2022 33:24
All the Burning Questions…. Backwards chords and Arnold Layne? The Cure loved Captain Beefheart? Hippy music for The Dandys? But Not the Grateful Dead? From AC/DC to New Wave? All the Questions that Burned…. A Strange Trip? Wire and Elastica? Suede and Wire? Who’s Who? Are Wire the New Cure? Reinventing The Wheel? And Burning the Questions…. Unafraid to be Wrong? Genius or Gormless? Total...
The Dandy Warhols Pt. 1: Strip Club Janitor 08.09.2022 35:34
The Dandy Warhols Pt. 1: Strip Club Janitor Featuring: Courtney Taylor-Taylor as Himself And Peter Holmström as Himself You’ll Never Believe it! David Bowie meets Andy Warhol - it’s a Horror story! Lol sees Stardust - it’s a Close Encounter! Budgie, Robert and Bowie get personal on the phone! Bob meets Dandy with a plan to takeover the World! The Cure staring at the Pacific Ocean. Robert and Sev...
Kevin Haskins Pt. 2: Follow Your Inner Moonlight; Don't Hide the Madness 01.09.2022 31:29
We Start a band and Lose Ourselves - Relationships, Boundaries and Rights - Give us a Different Manner - Pictures of us as Babies - Physical Reaction to Mental Pains - The Roles we take that Change Us. The Internet let Budgie recall His 120 mins of Silence The better He Looked - The worse He felt Inside - South America 1995 - Budgie At the top of his Endgame . Freaky! We see ourselves yet not r...
Kevin Haskins: Iggy Pop and The Fresh Face Kid 25.08.2022 36:07
Working Men’s Clubs and US Airforce Bases Drum Fills that We Never Forget. Kevin’s Punk Bands Paid their Dues in Pubs. Sunday Lunchtime - Bauhaus Play to Happy Families. The Cure had Competition in Neil Gaiman’s punk band Iggy Pop & Peter Murphy get Playful in NYC! Budgie Hit the Anvil - Kevin Smells the Poppers - Lol Keeps his Head Down Lol lost his Eyebrows in a Studio Fireball. Stev...
Flams and Zulu 18.08.2022 22:20
Budgie got his 1st rudiment from the film Zulu with Micheal Caine Flamming the spears on a shield Lol's rudiments came from the library Not exactly Buddy Riche's but the flavor of Lol's Triplets and Charlie Watts' hi-hat The harder you hit the drums the better the tone Budgie said . Lol just learnt the two hi-hat trick Budgie mimics the butterfly on a snare 4/4 or 3/4 and Lol's fine Reggae...
Decorum Came Later 11.08.2022 31:00
What Letters have we got today? asks Lol with Soto Voice One from his brother with praise for Cured and parental tales of choice Budgie became a member of many clubs, to get letters in the post, TV21 was always best with Gerry Anderson as host Eugene Huffman loves the Podcast – he was always a Banshees Boy. But the Creatures’ Anima Animus has become his overwhelming Joy. The Banshees had a nuc...
Miles and MGT Pt. 2: Drinking and Food 04.08.2022 23:55
The Menu: Hors d’Ouvre: Maestro Chef - John McGeoch Great Guitarist’s Sleight of Hand Baffles Copyists! Soup and Champers - The Ultimate Hangover Cure (see also Haggis etc) Roadside Snack - Currywurst and Scotch Eggs! Lol in Graceland - Everything is Elvis Crazy ‘cept the Kitchen aka The Church Entrée: Graceland is Small - The Plane Lisa Marie is Small - Was Elvis Myopic? One Pre-Show Drink -...
Miles and MGT: The Road of Happy Destiny Pt. 1 28.07.2022 40:47
Miles wanted to be a trucker, zooming around the world. Budgie and Lol always Up front with the bus driver. Miles was a drummer! All drummers are friends and everyone that works on Curious Creatures is a drummer Mark Gemini Thwaite aka MGT jams with Tricky and The Creatures and also played with Lol and The Curse for charity Miles three favorite drummers Lol, Budgie and Pete de Freitas ! Miles stop...
The Threads That Weave Through Time and The Austin, TX Bat Bridge 21.07.2022 27:41
1st - a story about a teacher. 2nd - a magic ephemeral feeling. 3rd - Music be the thread that weaves through time. 4th - There Was No Question - But We Found One 5th - Lol, Robert and Micky D., loved their English teacher. 6th - Budgie performed Kes for the English class 7th - Favourite Pub? The George for Lol - The War Room in ‘Ye Cracke’ for Budgie. 8th - Japanese Whispers - The Upstairs...
Olivia V: All Things Nice ‘N Sleazy! 14.07.2022 32:57
Dedicated to: Pete Shelley (17 April 1955 – 6 December 2018) Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn’t’ve?) The Curated '90s gave way to a Rebirth of Internet Rock ‘n Roll - Myspace and Tumblr. Is Indie Sleaze a way of being performance-based with serious Gusto!? T.V.O.D. Live Energy. DIY bands. Punk Revisited. When an Online blog with Trashy Aesthetics were Off the wall. M.I.A. Olivia's...
Dusty Chudda! 07.07.2022 28:19
What Shall We Do with A Drunken Sailor? – (Make them Clean the Carpets!) It was 20 years ago today! Seven Year Itch at Coachella 2002. Q.) Where did we leave our Hearts & Where do the Flowers Grow so Very High? A.) San Francisco – Fave Venues - The Warfield and The I-Beam Lol and Budgie wannabe Steve McQueen in What Film? The American Dream is our future and Billy idol uses Lol’s Optometrist...
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