Lol Tolhurst & Budgie
Curious Creatures
Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
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Apr 18, 2024
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Episodes
Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All 03.08.2023 31:13
Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums (We’re off to a Good Start!) Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want! The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal! Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist On 17 Seconds they swapped i...
Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius 27.07.2023 32:35
Jacknife never remembers the big moments. Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out! Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd! Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME! Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour Lol toured his book in South...
Wayne Hussey Pt. 2: Panic In Detroit! 20.07.2023 21:07
Let me in - I’m in the band! It goes like this: Lol - Newcastle Holiday Inn – Sauna – Towel – Door – Fire Escape – Reception – Room-Key! Wayne - Bristol - Liverpool - Leeds – London – California – Brazil – Love - 20 Years! Lol – California – Home - 30 Years Ago - Home is Where the Ticker Tocks . The Circus was Excitement when we Moved from where we Started In a band it’s simpler to do what we...
Wayne Hussey Pt. 1: Mr Pussy and the Murdered Melon mystery? 13.07.2023 33:50
Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp Introducing a Liverpool theme You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team! Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded 5 Pounds a week a new album afforded David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut! Banshees...
Fat Mike Pt. 2: New Drumheads, Boiled Strings and Burgundy Velvet Panties! 06.07.2023 24:24
Like Indian musicians, we tuned together Stroboscopic Tuners, revealed that we never Played a gig in Concert pitch - whatever. New drumheads were stolen Boiled bass strings saved money Pitch Pipes were our first harmonicas Riding White Swans We were Kids of the Revolution Thank the gods for glam and David Bowie The Sweet at the I-Beam and their 3-part harmonies Deep Purple and The Beach Boy...
Fat Mike Pt. 1: Fat Mike Reveals His Underwear Live on Radio!! 29.06.2023 28:08
My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair Who am I? Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian! We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gr...
Curious Questions: No Seats at The Dream Show! 16.06.2023 16:19
Sad story for our friend in Turkey but we remain positive for a good end. Lol and Budgie hopped with Joy to see the Kodo drummers in concert Budgie met Kodo Principal Leonard Eto via prog rock legend Hoppy Kamiyama Leo and Budgie drummed and Hoppy vibed with Chaos tapes and the Hai! album was born In 1977 The Clash drummer Nicky ‘Topper’ Headon was Budgie’s inspiration! Lol’s mentor Andy McBride...
Curious Questions: On the Buses - Film Like! 08.06.2023 18:19
Heavy Rotation for The Siouxsie Bus Party Linton Kwesi-Johnson - Forces of Victory Psychedelic Furs - India NIN - Pretty Hate Machine London’s Satellite Towns Swingin’ - Dodgy Policing the Numbskulls Mr Murphy with his baseball bat “Oi, cut it out son or your brown bread.” “Sorry Guv I’ll be leaving then.” Robert’s Red Vinyl Box Simon and Kate Bush’s ‘Hounds of Love’ Club Tolhurst and Club Smith...
Hamilton Leithauser and The Stone-Deaf Soundman 01.06.2023 36:09
Machine Gunners’ Ear No Elvis, Beatles, or The Rolling Stones in 1977 Bad brains, Minor Threat and Fugazi - at 14! Washington DC’s 9:30 Club, The Black Cat and Washington Plaza The Walkmen cometh in 2000 Eric’s Club matinee, it’s a drive-in Saturday, lots of creativity from NYC In A Forest or In Dust, the Walkmen place their trust, in the Siouxsie-Bob sound, merci! Bob and Lol’s brothers play...
Kele Okereke Pt. 2: The People I Remember… 05.05.2023 33:53
‘The people I remember…’ Mutual respect, the Bloc Party had Kele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s bad Together on tour, but then things change Russell ‘n Kele retain musical respect Musical Respect is a necessary thing Banshees Guitarists, All the Young Johns Spizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands Having kids and Touring Keep u...
Kele Okereke Pt. 1: The Traveling Circus of Sublimated Ego 27.04.2023 36:50
Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of Brexit Kele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool Budgie in France, London and Berlin Lol in the USA for 25 years Old UK market towns when the pubs are closed Would anyone want a return to 70’s England? Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons? Strawberries full of chemicals? Capitalism - Free labour? Big Agri eats labour Children pick berries - Hum...
Avey Tare Pt. 2: Nothing Lasts Forever - We Can’t Really Hold On To Anything 20.04.2023 30:43
Invisible Darlings - Fast piano Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re al...
Avey Tare Pt. 1: Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it? 13.04.2023 35:39
Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it? Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’ Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live OMD and Echo and The Bunnymen Budgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbal Lol and Budgie and the Punk revolution Loose electronics, unique sounds, and impr...
Shirley Manson: Lol & Budgie love Shirley - True! 06.04.2023 48:10
Wild is the Wind & Vulnerability Budgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band! Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-Sound When Garbage played their first London show in 1995 Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy Chainsaw Shirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie Golden Years 30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it 25 Big ones for...
Meg Myers Pt. 2: Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul! 30.03.2023 32:08
Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul! Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudes Finding a better way – with People that heal Budgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen Lol is Awake - Right Now! Meg stops to smell the flo...
Meg Myers Pt. 1: I Am Not The Body 23.03.2023 32:27
I am Not the Body. Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to her No more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer space an epiphany of self-realization. One Universe of Expression . Shutting ou...
Ilan Rubin Pt. 2: Non-Dancing-Dancing – It’s The Music Not The Place! 16.03.2023 36:07
Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette The NIN drum throne came free again Beck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of Fame Says, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’ Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes! TOTP not OGWT If we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba? Ilan is a Mus...
Ilan Rubin Pt. 1: Terror in The IEMS - NIN and Beyond! 09.03.2023 39:57
When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing desk No exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night) Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums Instantaneous? Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains ...
Miki Berenyi Pt. 3: Drugs are Bad? - The Paraphernalia of Professionals 02.03.2023 28:59
The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything. It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changed It's good the world changed too. Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watch Lol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drumming The Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Inno...
Miki Berenyi Pt. 2: Bon Jovi on Tour or What?! 23.02.2023 32:48
Miki as Unsettled global traveller Miki as Chameleon in retreat Miki and band as family What the industry wants, the public gets. Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bands For the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign Lol went off...
Miki Berenyi Pt. 1: Miss being in a band? Loved it but Nah! 16.02.2023 43:36
Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show? Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match ! Struck up many enlightening conversations!! The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars. Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans! We were all young th...
Nick Launay Pt. 2: Tricks of the Trade & 3 Corners of the Planet 09.02.2023 37:18
It was The Birthday Party’s 1st London gig When Budgie gate-crashed their dressing room The party was a witty one from midnight ‘til Dawn Melting in the daylight at 7am, all bright and scrubbed. Editing for K-Tel specials, Nick fearlessly edits the multi-track vertically AND horizontally! Lol bought ‘The Lamb’, with a scratch that jumped in time - A miracle! Budgie feels the spirit of ‘76 with T...
Nick Launay Pt. 1: Lucky Break & Making Fackin’ Music Maan! 02.02.2023 47:09
Lol in Tasmania small and cool. Damien Hirst diamonds and Berlin fish Fool Kevorkian death blanket is the best in show Medical flip-flops in the house of Ringo. Virgin Townhouse & Hedges’ Battery. Nick and Phil Collins in drum-fill Flattery Terry Chambers and XTC – in Another Green World lives a young Budgie Nick began life in Southern Spain – moved to London for the Pistols reign Good...
Julianne Regan Pt. 2: Dharma Transmission – Nothing Curated 26.01.2023 31:21
When Life was bad - only music will save Lol & Robert see the Stranglers together Worship at the thrones of Tama and Zildjian Lols first kit - took years to buy! Budgie’s first kit has a facelift for Cut Meet the creme de la creme of Liverpool misfits Hansa signed The Cure for the way they looked Julianne is transformed when playing live Budgie loves talking to the audience - offstage L...
Julianne Regan Pt. 1: Eve, Chaucer and the Wife of Bath 19.01.2023 36:40
Julianne and Budgie in Making Music Mag. No Makeup - No Instruments - No Agenda Disco 45 Mag was Lol’s fave Cure cover Song-Words Mag was Budgie’s 10p bible Glossy Crawley Colour - Grim Black & White up North Streets of gold or fairy slides in Glass walls? 18 with Permed hair - Elvis Presley or Tony Curtis? Lol was in Thin Lizzy with his Blue Velvet Jacket and Jeans? Yeah!! Julianne ado...
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