CREATIVITY is the JOB of the FUTURE

In this expansive conversation, we explore what it really means to build something true and why honesty, passion, and the courage to be seen matter more in creative work than ever. Hartmut Esslinger, founder of frog design and the industrial designer behind Apple's iconic Snow White design language, and Patricia Roller, frog's longtime co-CEO and founder of Vidlet, join Doreen and Michael to chall...

In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore what happens when AI accelerates everything, including our doubts about the future. Harper Reed, entrepreneur and technologist from Chicago, joins us to discuss how AI is fundamentally changing the nature of work, creativity, and identity. From his early days learning to code at five years old to founding companies in the age of large language models,...

What connects an international experience designer, competitive ultra-marathoner, NASA storytelling architect, joyful culture change agents, creative recovery coaches, celebrated design educator, nursing innovation researcher, and an Emmy-nominated storyteller? In this Season 1 wrap-up episode, hosts Doreen Lorenzo, Michael Baker, and Executive Producer Rebecca McInroy revisit the most powerful mo...

In this conversation with hosts Doreen Lorenzo and Michael Baker, Baratunde Thurston, creator of the Life with Machines podcast and host of PBS's America Outdoors, explains why creativity is the antidote to AI's "planet of averageness" and why the real danger isn't that robots will take over, it's that people will become robots through the industrialization of creative thought. More about Baratund...

When Marion Leary had her breakthrough moment at the Philadelphia Science Festival, staring at a virtual reality booth, she realized something that would reshape her entire career: the creative tools from design and technology could revolutionize how we teach people to save lives. In this conversation with Marion explains that what nurses call "workarounds" are actually a creative thinking in disg...

How can a board game teach the fundamentals of design and creativity? Gray Garmon, founding director of UT Austin's Center for Integrated Design joins us to explore how creativity becomes a powerful tool for solving everyday problems, and how his collaborative approach is democratizing design education. More about Gray: Gray on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/graygarmon/ TWOxTWO Studio:  htt...

In this episode, we meet Skye Hilton, founder and owner of New Obsession, and Troy Whittington, Creative Recovery Facilitator, who are pioneering the use of creativity as a pathway to recovery from substance use disorder. Both are artists in recovery who discovered that creativity could serve as both map and compass for navigating the uncharted territories of sobriety. More about Sky: Skye on Link...

In this episode, Doreen Lorenzo and Michael Baker speak with comedian, writer, musician and playwright Luna Malbroux, founder of Joy Channel, and AJ Haynes, Creative Doula for Joy Channel and lead singer of the internationally acclaimed band, Seratones. Both are multidisciplinary artists and activists who use creativity to help organizations transform their cultures through play, connection, story...

In this episode, we speak with Paul Propster, a strategic storyteller best known for his transformative work as Chief Story Architect at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL). Paul has helped teams across science, technology, and innovation bring clarity, emotion, and purpose to their work. He shares how narrative thinking, when done right, can turn complex ideas into powerful, human-centered sto...

Ultramarathon runner Ed Shelton talks with us about running over 200-mile races without a support crew, embracing discomfort, and using creativity as a survival skill. A business analyst by day and ultra-endurance athlete by passion, Ed shares how his early love of patterns, comfort with solitude, and commitment fuel his ability to adapt under extreme conditions. From hallucinations to hypothermia...

Fri Forjindam talks with hosts Doreen Lorenzo and Michael Baker about her journey from Cameroon to becoming a global voice in experience design and her philosophy that creativity is both a civic responsibility and an economic driver. Her story exemplifies the power of living with curiosity and developing creative courage. More about Fri Forjindam: Fri's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frifor...

As we stare into the abyss of uncertainty, how do we find direction, and guidance? What tools will help us? One word: CREATIVITY. Creative thinking is THE most essential skill in an uncertain world. In a new podcast hosted by Doreen Lorenzo and Michael Baker, launching May 5th, We discover why Creativity is the Job of the Future. Join Doreen and Michael for in-depth conversations with ultramaratho...