9Marks
Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
A podcast by 9Marks, with Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju.
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Episodes
On How to Use Homework Part 2 (Ep. 48) 27.04.2026 40:46
Deepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about using Scripture as homework. Resources Mentioned: 31-Day Devotionals for Life (Series) Workbooks and resources from Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation
On How to Use Homework Part 1 (Ep. 47) 13.04.2026 29:41
Deepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about the importance of homework and how and when to assign it in counseling. Sounds boring but it’s more important than you might realize! Resources Mentioned Good and Angry by David Powlison
On Sexual Sin with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 46) 30.03.2026 41:40
Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview Ellen on a woman’s battle with sexual sin. Resources Mentioned Sexual Sanity for Women by Ellen Dykas Sex and the Single Girl by Ellen Dykas Your Dating Relationship and Your Sexual Past by Ellen Dykas What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (single version) – Harvest USA What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (married version) – Harvest USA Harvest USA
On Helping Singles Fight for Purity (Ep. 45) 16.03.2026 42:01
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak offer ten thoughts for singles on why and how to fight for purity. Resources Mentioned: Pure in Heart: Sexual Sin and the Promises of God by Garrett Kell Pornography: Fighting for Purity by Deepack Reju Single and Lonely: Finding the Intimacy You Desire by Jayne Clark Struggling Through Singleness: Help for the Journey by Jane Clark
On Medications (Ep. 44) 02.03.2026 42:57
Deepak, Hayley, and Garrett talk about the good and bad about medications and working with doctors. Resources Mentioned Descriptions and Prescriptions by Michael Emlet Listening to Prozac…and to the Scriptures Article by Michael Emlet Can We Be Positive About Psychiatric Medications? Article by Ed Welch Why do we seem negative about psychiatric medications? Article by Ed Welch
Ed Welch on Depression (Ep. 43) 16.02.2026 47:35
Deepak, Hayley and Garrett interview counselor and author Ed Welch about the experience of depression and how to minister to those who suffer from it.
Depression Part 3 (Ep. 42) 02.02.2026 42:59
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak share how to care for a friend struggling with depression. Resources Mentioned Depression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional) Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch “Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell
Depression Part 2 (Ep. 41) 19.01.2026 39:31
Hayley, Deepak and Garrett talk about depression and how to think about depression as complicated suffering. Resources Mentioned Depression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional) Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch “Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell
On Depression Part 1 (Ep. 40) 05.01.2026 42:24
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about what the Bible says about depression. Warning label: This episode also talks about a depressed person’s battle with suicide. Resources Mentioned Depression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch Spurgeon’s Sorrows by Zack Eswine
On How to Apologize (Ep. 39) 22.12.2025 29:44
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how to offer a good or bad apology and why we struggle to apologize. Resources Mentioned The Peacemaker by Ken Sande
On Anger, with Chris Moles (Ep. 38) 08.12.2025 46:01
Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview pastor and counselor Chris Moles, who says you can’t bully a bully. You change a person’s anger with kindness, compassion and forgiveness. Resources Mentioned Uprooting Anger by Robert D. Jones https://www.chrismoles.org https://www.menofpeace.org
On Anger Part 3 (Ep. 37) 24.11.2025 53:10
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore redemptive strategies for dealing with anger problems and growing in faith in Christ. Books Mentioned Anger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. Jones A Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. Welch The Peacemaker by Ken Sande War of Words by Paul David Tripp Other Resources "Moving Toward, Away and Against" Chart (This chart is from the CCE...
On Anger Part 2 (Ep. 36) 10.11.2025 37:54
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how people change when they're wrestling with anger. What should we believe, say, think and do if we want to overcome our anger. Resources mentioned: The Heart of Anger by Steve Midgley and Christopher Ash Angry Children: Understanding and Helping Your Children Regain Control by Mike Emlet (Booklet)
On Anger Part 1 (Ep. 35) 27.10.2025 47:15
Garrett, Deepak and Hayley introduce the topic of anger and reflect on their own struggles and encounters with it. They explore the complexity of anger—how it can be both righteous and sinful, hot and cold. The discussion sets the foundation for upcoming episodes on addressing and counseling anger in a Christ-centered way. Resources mentioned: Good and Angry by David Powlison Controlling Anger (M...
On How To Become A Better Listener (Ep. 34) 13.10.2025 40:42
Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley talk about the good and bad qualities of a listener and how to grow in your skill of listening.
Interview With Abby Wedgeworth (Ep. 33) 11.08.2025 44:37
Hayley, Garrett and Deepak interview Abby Wedgeworth (author of best-selling book HELD) about how to care for women who have suffered from a miscarriage. Resources Mentioned: Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God’s Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage by Abby Wedgworth Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage by Eric Schumacher Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of...
On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 2 (Ep. 32) 28.07.2025 41:51
Hayley, Garrett and Deepak offer 5 Do's and 5 Don'ts in coming alongside those who have suffered with infertility or miscarriage.
On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 1 (Ep. 31) 14.07.2025 37:19
Hayley, Garrett and Deepak consider the painful experiences of infertility and miscarriage, and how the Lord walks with us in our grief.
On What to Do When You're Stuck (Ep. 30) 30.06.2025 34:21
What do you do when you're feeling stuck in counseling? How do you help someone when it feels like nothing is changing? Hayley, Deepak and Garrett offer eleven suggestions on how to get unstuck!
On Relational Idolatry, with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 29) 16.06.2025 41:55
Hayley and Deepak talk with Ellen Dykas about the problems of relational idolatry. What can you do when you turn an important relationship into an idol? How can you find satisfaction in Christ rather than a person in your life? 31 Day Devotional on Toxic Relationship Sexual Sanity for Women Sex and the Single Girl Harvest USA Article: Close Friends and Entangled Hearts: Dykas and Powlison .
On Eating Disorders, with The Dunhams (Ep. 28) 02.06.2025 40:10
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak interview the Dunhams about their journey through Krista’s eating disorder. Dave and Krista explain how she let go of control, sorted through all of the unhelpful things she was told, and in the end, centered her life around Christ.
On Eating Disorders Part 3 (Ep. 27) 19.05.2025 39:42
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore 12 principles that people struggling with eating disorders should follow, like facing their shame, turning down the outside cultural influences, fighting against perfectionism and pride, addressing ungodly fears, and much more!
On Eating Disorders Part 2 (Ep. 26) 05.05.2025 31:57
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about how pastors can care for a member who confesses a battle with an eating disorder. What are the theological, medical and practical considerations? How does the gospel change this dilemma?
On Eating Disorders Part 1 (Ep. 25) 21.04.2025 35:07
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about what the Bible has to say about food and our relationship with food. Related resources: Helping Bulimics by Elyse Fitzpatrick Helping Anorexics by Elyse Fitzpatrick Disorderly Eating... for the Rest of Us by Elyse Fitzpatrick
On How to End Counseling Sessions (Ep. 24) 07.04.2025 34:10
The decision to bring the counseling process to a close is sometimes clear, but often not. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom talk about how to end counseling sessions. Related resources The Discipleship River by Steve Viars
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