Copy Chief Radio

If you've ever walked into a store (or scrolled a sales page) and thought, "Man… where's the human in all this?" — this episode is for you. Bob Phibbs, better known as The Retail Doctor, has spent decades helping brands rediscover the art of real connection — and in this conversation, he and Kevin unpack what it means to sell with soul in a world that keeps getting more automated, distracted, and...

If you've ever hit that wall in your freelance career where you're booked solid, your income looks good on paper, but somehow you feel stuck, this episode is going to hit you square in the chest. Chris Orzechowski is one of the few freelance copywriters who managed to break free from the "busy but broke" trap. He's written for huge eCommerce brands, trained hundreds of writers through his courses,...

In this episode, Kevin Rogers sits down with Victoria Franco to unpack transcreation—the blend of marketing strategy, cultural intelligence, direct response copy, and translation that turns English‑first offers into winners in Latin America.  They break down why literal translation fails, how WhatsApp/DM culture flips the funnel, and why emotional resonance, social proof, and community matter more...

In this episode of Paid to Create, I sat down with Dave Munson, founder of Saddleback Leather and author of the new book They'll Fight Over It When You're Dead. Dave's story is one of relentless curiosity, unwavering faith, and a passion for building things that matter.  We got deep into how a single leather bag turned into a brand people brag about owning—and why creating something people love st...

In this episode, I handed the mic to Lolita Allgyer—our brilliant messaging and story strategist here at Copy Chief—for a deep dive into what makes story-driven copy land with real emotional punch. This was more than just an interview. Lolita came in with the mindset of a strategist working with a client (me), and what followed was an honest, curious, and wide-ranging conversation about creative p...

In this powerhouse episode of Copy Chief Radio, Kevin Rogers chats with Daniella Wade—a strategic copywriter and entrepreneur from Trinidad and Tobago—about what it really takes to thrive as a freelance copywriter and what it's like to land an elite in-house gig with Jeff Walker's team at Internet Alchemy. Daniella shares her entrepreneurial journey, how she transitioned from hustling freelance gi...

In this special Behind The Copy session, I'm joined by one of the most legendary and unfiltered voices in copywriting—Chris "Mr. Moneyfingers" Haddad. If you've ever wondered how someone turns emotional pain and dark humor into multi-million dollar sales letters... Chris holds nothing back. We go deep into the psychology of persuasion, the evolution of his infamous Michael Fiore persona, and why h...

Most freelance copywriters are introverts —which makes the idea of networking feel about as natural as small talk at a corporate retreat (aka painful). But what if you could build powerful, career-changing relationships in a way that feels natural, rewarding, and even fun ? That's exactly what Selena Soo teaches in this episode. She's built a thriving business by helping experts, authors, and entr...

Peter Hoppenfeld and I dive headfirst into the state of marketing in 2025 and what it means for freelance copywriters like us. We're talking about the major shifts happening right now, including how the FTC is tightening the reins on marketers, why bloated copy is losing its edge, and what it's going to take to connect with a younger, savvier audience. We also explore the importance of innovation,...

Brian McCarthy is a brilliant mindset coach who has transitioned from a career in direct response copywriting to helping creative professionals break free from imposter syndrome. In this episode, Brian shares his unique perspective on overcoming the mental and emotional blocks that keep many copywriters stuck. We dive into the origins of imposter syndrome, its impact on freelance copywriters, and...

In this episode, I sat down with Dan Walker, son of Jeff Walker (product Launch Formula) and a seasoned leader at Internet Alchemy, to explore the intricacies of hiring top-tier copywriters through the innovative "Goods" process.  We dove deep into the strategies behind finding copywriting talent that balances creativity, adaptability, and strategic thinking—essential skills for freelance copywrit...

In this thought-provoking episode of Copy Chief Radio, Kevin Rogers sits down with Eddie Shleyner, creator of "Very Good Copy," to discuss the artistry, psychology, and daily practice of being a copywriter. Eddie shares the journey of writing his first book, the life lessons passed down from his grandmother, and how the craft of copywriting extends far beyond selling products—it's a way of seeing...

In this powerful episode of Copy Chief Radio, Kevin Rogers sits down with mindset master Jeremy Bellotti, founder of Personal Mastery®, to discuss the deeper levels of personal growth, high performance, and mastery. Jeremy takes listeners through the stages of personal development and how to move beyond survival-mode thinking to achieve sustainable growth, both as a freelancer and as a human being...

Being a writer is so much more than the words.   John Carlton and I did a 25 episode podcast series together and the actual "writing of words" accounted for maybe a third of the conversation. The majority of the episodes were about the "living and thinking" behind the words.    I've been pondering this more than ever since large language models came into the craft.    Where exactly does the writer...

Lizzie Mills was just 20-yrs-old and a new mom when she joined Copy Chief as one of the first members through the door in 2014. She felt like the greenest copywriter in the place, but not for long.  The veteran copywriters were more than happy to guide her and show her the ropes.  Today, Lizzie, along with her husband, Steve, lead their family business and have achieved more success than "she ever...

Tom Hammaker's life in copywriting took a radical turn last month when he was hired to become Rich Schefren's copywriter.  Better yet, Tom won the gig in a six-week competitive search against dozens of other copywriters – some with more than 20 years in the game.  We called it "The Goods," and clearly Tom has them.  In this episode you'll hear directly from Tom how he approached "The Goods," his s...

In this episode of Copy Chief Radio, we explore the captivating world of perfume and its unexpected parallels with the storytelling engineer-turned-perfumer Helida Dodd. Helida shares insights into how creating a perfume is similar to crafting a narrative.   

I recently took 25 copywriters through the process of landing a six-figure copywriting gig.  The Grand Prize was becoming the primary copywriter for Rich Schefren and being Chiefed by Mark Ford! It was a one-of-kind experience (imagine Hunger Games for copywriters). Everyone survived, but no one is the same.  Here's what we learned, and what you need to know if you want to land the best gigs in co...

How do you build a career or a team in the Era of Large Language Models and what happens to talent development when even the lowest intern needs full-stack CMO skills?   In this episode of Copy Chief Radio, we're going on a mind-bending ride with Aaron Winter, Founder of Dig. On, and creator of multiple nine-figure promos for Motley Fool and Agora Financial. Aaron is the hidden-hand mentor behind...

In this episode,  we're going behind the curtain with Jason Friedman, CEO of CX Formula. Today, Jason reveals how any business can direct their customer experience to not just satisfy but to dazzle and delight.   

In this episode, Sara explains how she was able to position herself as the top choice for this contract, and how they responded to her "bombshell" after offering it to her.   

Today, we're discussing how freelance copywriters can forge profit partnerships with their clients, as emphasized by Chris Mason, to attain financial stability and success in their work.  

Today I'm sharing who's behind the problem (yeah, I'm naming names), and how I hope to change it for copywriters who have "The Goods."   

My guest today, Stephen Hutson is an expert at building loyalty brands and has thought a lot about buyer beliefs.

Today, I'm going to reveal the Top 3 Copywriting Categories for Freelancers in 2024. And also, the one place where your services are no longer needed.