Mercatus Center at George Mason University

Conversations with Tyler

Tyler Cowen engages today's deepest thinkers in wide-ranging explorations of their work, the world, and everything in between. New conversations every other Wednesday. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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Mercatus Center at George Mason University

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Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Reid Hoffman on the Possibilities of AI 28.06.2023

In his second appearance, Reid Hoffman joined Tyler to talk everything AI: the optimal liability regime for LLMs, whether there'll be autonomous money-making bots, which agency should regulate AI, how AI will affect the media ecosystem and the communication of ideas, what percentage of the American population will eschew it, how gaming will evolve, whether AI's future will be open-source or propri...

Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress 14.06.2023

Noam Chomsky joins Tyler to discuss why Noam and Wilhelm von Humboldt have similar views on language and liberty, good and bad evolutionary approaches to language, what he thinks Stephen Wolfram gets wrong about LLMs, whether he's optimistic about the future, what he thinks of Thomas Schelling, the legacy of the 1960s-era left libertarians, the development trajectories of Nicaragua and Cuba, why h...

Peter Singer on Utilitarianism, Influence, and Controversial Ideas 07.06.2023

Peter Singer is one of the world's most influential living philosophers, whose ideas have motivated millions of people to change how they eat, how they give, and how they interact with each other and the natural world. Peter joined Tyler to discuss whether utilitarianism is only tractable at the margin, how Peter thinks about the meat-eater problem, why he might side with aliens over humans, at wh...

Seth Godin on Marketing, Meaning, and the Bibs We Wear 31.05.2023

On good days, Seth Godin thinks about all the progress we're making on climate change. On bad days, he thinks about the problem of racing bibs. Though pieces of paper safety-pinned to runners' chests seem obviously outdated, the bibs persist, highlighting how difficult it can be to change a culture for the better. And yet Seth also persists to improve the culture around marketing and work, giving...

Simon Johnson on Banking, Technology, and Prosperity 17.05.2023

What's more intense than leading the IMF during a financial crisis? For Simon Johnson, it was co-authoring a book with fellow economist (and past guest) Daron Acemoglu. Written in six months, their book Power and Progress: Our Thousand-Year Struggle Over Technology and Prosperity, argues that widespread prosperity is not the natural consequence of technological progress, but instead only happens w...

Kevin Kelly on Advice, Travel, and Tech 03.05.2023

As the founding executive editor of Wired magazine and the author of several acclaimed books on technology and culture, Kevin Kelly has long been known for his visionary ideas and insights. But his latest work, Excellent Advice for Living takes a different approach, drawing on his own experience and wisdom to offer practical tips and advice for navigating life's challenges. Naturally then, Kevin a...

Anna Keay on Historic Architecture, Monarchy, and 17th Century Britain 19.04.2023

Anna Keay is a historian who specializes in the cultural heritage of Great Britain. As the director of the Landmark Trust, she has overseen the restoration of numerous historical buildings and monuments, while also serving as a prolific author and commentator on the country's architectural and artistic traditions. Her book, The Restless Republic: Britain Without a Crown , was one of Tyler's top pi...

Jessica Wade on Chiral Materials, Open Knowledge, and Representation in STEM 05.04.2023

Jessica Wade is a physicist at Imperial College London who, while spending her day working on special carbon-based materials that can be used as semiconductors, has spent her nights writing nearly 2,000 Wikipedia entries about underrepresented figures in science. That, along with numerous other forms of public engagement—including writing a children's book about nanotechnology—is all in an effort...

Jonathan GPT Swift on Jonathan Swift 29.03.2023

In this conversation, Tyler uses ChatGPT to interview Jonathan Swift about his views on religion, politics, economics, and literature. GPT Swift discusses his support for the Church of Ireland, his shift from the Whigs to the Tories, and his opposition to William Wood's copper coinage in Ireland. He also talks about his works, including Gulliver's Travels and A Modest Proposal , and his skepticism...

Tom Holland on History, Christianity, and the Value of the Countryside 22.03.2023

Historian Tom Holland joined Tyler to discuss in what ways his Christianity is influenced by Lord Byron, how the Book of Revelation precipitated a revolutionary tradition, which book of the Bible is most foundational for Western liberalism, the political differences between Paul and Jesus, why America is more pro-technology than Europe, why Herodotus is his favorite writer, why the Greeks and Pers...

Yasheng Huang on the Development of the Chinese State 08.03.2023

Yasheng Huang has written two of Tyler's favorite books on China: Capitalism with Chinese Characteristics , which contrasts an entrepreneurial rural China and a state-controlled urban China, and The Rise and Fall of the EAST , which argues that Keju —China's civil service exam system—played a key role in the growth and expanding power of the Chinese state. Yasheng joined Tyler to discuss China's l...

Brad DeLong on Intellectual and Technical Progress 22.02.2023

Brad DeLong, professor of economics at UC Berkley, OG econ blogger , and Tyler's Harvard classmate, joins the show to discuss Slouching Towards Utopia , an economic history of the 20 th century that's been nearly thirty years in the making. Tyler and Brad discuss what can really be gleaned from the fragmentary economics statistics of the late 19th century, the remarkable changes that occurred from...

Glenn Loury on the Cover Story and the Real Story 08.02.2023

Economist and public intellectual Glenn Loury joined Tyler to discuss the soundtrack of Glenn's life, Glenn's early career in theoretical economics, his favorite Thomas Schelling story, the best place to raise a family in the US, the seeming worsening mental health issues among undergraduates, what he learned about himself while writing his memoir, what his right-wing fans most misunderstand about...

Paul Salopek on Walking the World 25.01.2023

Paul Salopek is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and National Geographic fellow who, at the age of 50, set out on foot to retrace the steps of the first human migrations out of Africa. The project, dubbed the "Out of Eden Walk," began in Ethiopia in 2012 and will eventually take him to Tierra Del Fuego, a distance of some 24,000 miles. Calling in just as he was about to arrive in Xi'an, he and...

Rick Rubin on Listening, Taste, and the Act of Noticing 18.01.2023

Rick Rubin has been behind some of the most iconic and successful albums in music history, and his unique approach to production and artist development has made him one of the most respected figures in the industry. He joined Tyler to discuss how to listen (to music and people), which artistic movement has influenced him most, what Sherlock Holmes taught him about creativity, how streaming is affe...

Katherine Rundell on the Art of Words 11.01.2023

Katherine Rundell is, in a word, enthusiastic. She's enthusiastic about John Donne. She's enthusiastic about walking along rooftops. She's enthusiastic about words, and stories, and food. She has often started her morning with a cartwheel and is currently learning to fly a small plane. A prolific writer, her many children's books aim to instill the sense of discovery she still remembers from her o...

Conversations with Tyler 2022 Retrospective 28.12.2022

On this special year-in-review episode, Tyler and producer Jeff Holmes talk about the past year on the show, including which guests he'd like to have on in 2023, what stands out to him now about his conversation with Sam Bankman-Fried in light of the collapse of FTX, the most popular and most underrated episodes of the year, what makes a guest authentic, why he hasn't asked the "production functio...

John Adams on Composing and Creative Freedom 14.12.2022

Is classical music dying? For John Adams the answer is an emphatic no. Considered by Tyler to be America's greatest living composer, he may well be one of the people responsible for keeping it alive. John's contemporary classical music is some of the most regularly performed and he is well-known for his historically themed operas such as Nixon in China, Doctor Atomic, and most recently Antony and...

Jeremy Grantham on Investing in Green Tech 30.11.2022

When it comes to fighting climate change Jeremy Grantham is optimistic about technology – but worried about timing. Known widely for his acuity in identifying bubbles, the British investor contends that the one created by our dependence on fossil fuels is about to pop. He's on a mission to make green energy cheaper, faster and is well on his way. After a lifetime spent thinking about resources, he...

Ken Burns on the Complications of History 16.11.2022

When it comes to history—particularly American history—nothing is ever definitive, says documentarian Ken Burns. Much of his work has focused on capturing that history in film, but in his new book, Our America: A Photographic History , his goal is to share the complexity of his country as well as honor those roots in still images. From the very first photograph, a self-portrait, to our modern inun...

Mary Gaitskill on Subjects That Are Vexing Everybody 02.11.2022

Mary Gaitskill's knack for writing about the social and physical world with unapologetic clarity has led to her style being described both as " cold and brutal" and "tender and compassionate ." Tyler considers her works The Mare , Veronica , and Lost Cat to be some of the best and most insightful American fiction in recent times. And lately she's taken to writing essays on Substack, where she fran...

Reza Aslan on Martyrdom, Islam, and Revolution 19.10.2022

Reza Aslan doesn't mind being called a pantheist. In his own "roundabout spiritual journey" and study of the world's religions, which has led him to write books on Islam , the life of Jesus Christ , God , and most recently an American martyr in Persia , he has come to believe the Sufi notion that religion is just a shell one must break through to truly understand God—and that if God is anything at...

Walter Russell Mead on the Past and Future of American Foreign Policy 05.10.2022

A leading expert in foreign policy, Walter Russell Mead believes his lack of a PhD—and interest in actually going places—has helped him avoid academic silos and institutional groupthink that's rendered the field ineffective for decades. Mead's latest book , which explores the American-Israeli relationship, is characteristically wide-ranging and multidisciplinary, resulting in "less a history of U....

Byron Auguste On Rewiring the U.S. Labor Market 21.09.2022

When looking at the U.S. labor market, Byron Auguste sees too many job seekers screened out based on shallow signals like a bachelor's degree, and too few 'screened in' by directly demonstrating the skills needed for the job at hand. To close those opportunity gaps in the American workforce, Byron co-founded and runs Opportunity@Work, which played a key role in Maryland's decision in early 2022 to...

Vaughn Smith on Life as a Hyperpolyglot 07.09.2022

Vaughn Smith is fluent in eight languages but with a beginner's grasp of at least thirty-six (and counting). His talents are so remarkable that the Washington Post did a feature story on him and neuroscientists at MIT requested he do a brain scan for them. But for Vaughn his language skills aren't about attracting attention or monetary gain. "Language is a key to someone's culture, to someone's wo...

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