Mercatus Center at George Mason University

Conversations with Tyler

Tyler Cowen engages today's deepest thinkers in wide-ranging explorations of their work, the world, and everything in between. New conversations every other Wednesday. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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Mercatus Center at George Mason University

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Education

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Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Marilynne Robinson on Biblical Interpretation, Calvinist Thought, and Religion in America 20.03.2024

Marilynne Robinson is one of America's best and best-known novelists and essayists, whose award-winning works like Housekeeping and Gilead explore themes of faith, grace, and the intricacies of human nature. Beyond her writing, Robinson's 25-year tenure at the famed Iowa Writers' Workshop allowed her to shape and inspire the new generations of writers. Her latest book, Reading Genesis, displays he...

Marc Andreessen on AI and Dynamism 13.03.2024

In this interview, recorded at a16z's 2024 American Dynamism Summit, Tyler and Marc Andreessen engage in a rapid-fire dialogue about the future of AI, including the biggest change we'll see in the next five years, who will gain and lose status with the rise of LLMs, why open-source is important for national security, the best and worst parts of Biden's AI directive, the most underrated energy sour...

Marc Rowan on Financial Market Evolution and University Governance 06.03.2024

Marc Rowan, co-founder and CEO of Apollo Global Management, joined Tyler to discuss why rising interest rates won't hurt Apollo's profitability, why liabilities have traditionally been the weak spot in insurance, why the concept of liquidity needs a rethink, the meaninglessness of the term "private credit", what role crypto will play in American finance, why Marc bought a brutalist apartment, whic...

Masaaki Suzuki on Interpreting Bach 21.02.2024

A conductor, harpsichordist, and organist, Masaaki Suzuki stands as a towering figure in Baroque music, renowned for his comprehensive and top-tier recordings of Bach's works, including all of Bach's sacred and secular cantatas. Suzuki's unparalleled dedication extends beyond Bach, with significant contributions to the works of Mozart, Handel, and other 18th-century composers. He is the founder of...

Ami Vitale on Photojournalism and Wildlife Conservation 07.02.2024

Ami Vitale is a renowned National Geographic photographer and documentarian with a deep commitment to wildlife conservation and environmental education. Her work, spanning over a hundred countries, includes spending a decade as a conflict photographer in places like Kosovo, Gaza, and Kashmir. She joined Tyler to discuss why we should stay scary to pandas, whether we should bring back extinct speci...

Rebecca F. Kuang on National Literatures, Book Publishing, and History in Fiction 24.01.2024

Rebecca F. Kuang just might change the way you think about fantasy and science fiction. Known for her best-selling books Babel and The Poppy War trilogy, Kuang combines a unique blend of historical richness and imaginative storytelling. At just 27, she's already published five novels, and her compulsion to write has not abated even as she's pursued advanced degrees at Oxford, Cambridge, and now Ya...

Patrick McKenzie on Navigating Complex Systems 10.01.2024

Few can measure the impact of a blog post they wrote, in the millions of dollars a year, but Patrick McKenzie has the receipts. His 2012 post on salary negotiation is read hundreds of thousands of times each year, and he has a Gmail folder brimming with success stories. This achievement is just of his many contributions, which include starting several businesses, advising Stripe and other software...

Conversations with Tyler 2023 Retrospective 27.12.2023

On this special year-in-review episode, Tyler and producer Jeff Holmes look back on the past year in the show and more, including the most popular and underrated episodes, the origins of the show as an occasional event series, the most difficult guests to prep for, the story behind EconGOAT.AI , Tyler's favorite podcast appearance of the year, and his evolving LLM-powered production function. They...

Fuchsia Dunlop on the Story of Chinese Food 13.12.2023

In her third appearance on the show, Chinese food expert Fuchsia Dunlop joins Tyler and a group of special guests to celebrate the release of Invitation to a Banquet , her new book exploring the history, philosophy, and techniques of Chinese culinary culture. As with her previous appearance, this conversation was held over a banquet meal at Mama Chang and was hosted by Lydia Chang . As they dined,...

John Gray on Pessimism, Liberalism, and Theism 29.11.2023

John Gray is a philosopher and writer renowned for his critical examination of liberalism, atheism, and the human condition. His unique perspective is shaped over a decades-long career, during which he has authored influential books on topics ranging from political theory to what we can learn from cats about on how to live a good life. His latest book,  The New Leviathans: Thoughts After Liberalis...

Jennifer Burns on Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand 15.11.2023

Jenn ifer Burns is a professor of history at Stanford who works at  the intersection of intellectual, political, and cultural history. She's written two biographies Tyler highly recommends: her 2009 book, G oddess of the Market: Ayn Rand and the American Right and her latest, Milton Friedman: The Last Conservativ e, provides a nuanced look into the influential economist and public intellectual. Ty...

Brian Koppelman on TV, Movies, and Appreciating Art 08.11.2023

Brian Koppelman is a writer, director, and producer known for his work on films like  Rounders and Solitary Man, the hit TV show Billions , and his podcast The Moment , which explores pivotal moments in creative careers. Tyler and Brian sat down to discuss why TV wasn't good for so long, whether he wants viewers to binge his shows, how he'd redesign movie theaters, why some smart people appreciate...

Githae Githinji on Life in Kenya 02.11.2023

As a follow-up to the episode featuring Stephen Jennings , we're releasing two bonus conversations showing the daily life, culture, and politics of Nairobi and Kenya at large. This second installment features Githae Githinji, a Kikuyu elder and businessman working in Tatu City, a massive mixed-used development spearheaded by Jennings . Born in 1958 and raised in a rural village, he relocated to se...

Harriet Karimi Muriithi on Life in Kenya 02.11.2023

As a follow-up to the episode featuring Stephen Jennings , we're releasing two bonus conversations showing the daily life, culture, and politics of Nairobi and Kenya at large. This first installment features Harriet Muriithi. Harriet is a 22-year-old hospitality professional living and working in Tatu City, a massive mixed-used development spearheaded by Jennings. Harriet grew up in the picturesqu...

Stephen Jennings on Building New Cities 01.11.2023

Stephen and Tyler first met over thirty years ago while working on economic reforms in New Zealand. With a distinguished career that transitioned from the New Zealand Treasury to significant ventures in emerging economies, Stephen now focuses on developing new urban landscapes across Africa as the founder and CEO of Rendeavour. Tyler sat down with Stephen in Tatu City, one of his multi-use develop...

Jacob Mikanowski on Eastern Europe 18.10.2023

Jacob Mikanowski is the author of one of Tyler's favorite books this year called  Goodbye, Eastern Europe: An Intimate History of a Divided Land . Tyler and Jacob sat down to discuss all things Eastern Europe, including the differences between Eastern and Western European humor, whether Poles are smiling more nowadays, why the best Polish folk art is from the south, the equilibrium for Kaliningrad...

Re-release: Claudia Goldin on the Economics of Inequality 09.10.2023

Harvard professor Claudia Goldin has made a name for herself tackling difficult questions. What was the full economic cost of the American Civil War? Does education increase or lessen income inequality? What causes the gender pay gap—and how do you even measure it? Her approach, which often involves the unearthing of new historical data, has yielded lasting insights in several distinct areas of ec...

Ada Palmer on Viking Metaphysics, Contingent Moments, and Censorship 04.10.2023

Ada Palmer is a Renaissance historian at the University of Chicago who studies radical free thought and censorship, composes music, consults on anime and manga, and is the author of the acclaimed Terra Ignota sci-fi series, among many other things. Tyler sat down with Ada to discuss why living in the Renaissance was worse than living during the Middle Ages, how art protected Florence, why she's re...

Lazarus Lake on Endurance, Uncertainty, and Reaching One's Potential 20.09.2023

Lazarus Lake is a renowned ultramarathon runner and designer. His most famous creation (along with his friend Raw Dog) is the Barkley Marathons, an absurdly difficult 100-mile race through the Tennessee wilderness that only 17 people have ever finished in its nearly 30-year existence. Tyler and Laz discuss what running 100 miles tells you about yourself that  running 26 miles does not, why so many...

Jerusalem Demsas on The Dispossessed, Gulliver's Travels, and Of Boys and Men 06.09.2023

In this special episode, Tyler sat down with Jerusalem Demsas, staff writer at The Atlantic, to discuss three books: The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin, Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift, and Of Boys and Men by Richard V. Reeves. Spanning centuries and genres and yet provoking similar questions, these books prompted Tyler and Jerusalem to wrestle with enduring questions about human nature, g...

Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game 30.08.2023

A five-time World Chess Champion, Vishy became India's first grandmaster at age 18, spurring a chess revolution in the country. Now 53, he is still a world top ten player and has been India's number one ranked player for 37 years. As newer talents emerge and old ones retire, Anand's continued excellence showcases an endurance seldom seen. Tyler and Vishy sat down in Chennai to discuss his breakthr...

Celebrating Marginal Revolution's 20th Anniversary 23.08.2023

When Alex Tabarrok and Tyler Cowen launched Marginal Revolution in August of 2003, they saw attracting a few thousand academic-minded readers as a runaway success. To their astonishment, the blog soon eclipsed that goal, and within a decade had become one of the most widely read economics blogs in the world. Just as remarkably, the blog maintained its relevance in its second decade, bringing in a...

Paul Graham on Ambition, Art, and Evaluating Talent 09.08.2023

Tyler and Y Combinator co-founder Paul Graham sat down at his home in the English countryside to discuss what areas of talent judgment his co-founder and wife Jessica Livingston is better at, whether young founders have gotten rarer, whether he still takes a dim view of solo founders, how to 2x ambition in the developed world, on the minute past which a Y Combinator interviewer is unlikely to chan...

Noam Dworman on Stand-Up Comedy and Staying Open-Minded 26.07.2023

Tyler sat down at Comedy Cellar with owner Noam Dworman to talk about the ever-changing stand-up comedy scene, including the perfect room temperature for stand-up, whether comedy can still shock us, the effect on YouTube and TikTok, the transformation of jokes into bits, the importance of tight seating, why he doesn't charge higher prices for his shows, the differences between the LA and NYC scene...

David Bentley Hart on Reason, Faith, and Diversity in Religious Thought 12.07.2023

David Bentley Hart is an American writer, philosopher, religious scholar, critic, and theologian who has authored over 1,000 essays and 19 books, including a very well-known translation of the New Testament and several volumes of fiction. In this conversation, Tyler and David discuss  ways in which Orthodox Christianity is not so millenarian, how theological patience shapes the polities of Orthodo...

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