Dave Lawton
Conversations as you Go
Hearing from people who are obeying Jesus’ great commission to Go
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Episodes
208. Aila Tasse – What Does Church Look Like 10.07.2026 12:53
What does church really look like—and how do new disciples discover that they are the church? In this short episode, Aila Tasse shares why disciple making must move beyond decisions to developing communities that live out the functions of church together. Rather than bringing people to church, the goal is to see people become church. In this episode: Why becoming church is a slow but essential dis...
207. Aila Tasse – Transitioning from DBS to Gatherings and Groups (Church) 02.07.2026 39:12
In this episode, we continue listening to Aila Tasse as he trains some of our Praxeis leaders. Aila shares about the important transition from Discovery Bible Study into gatherings and groups that begin to function as church. He highlights the need for different people, with different gifts and passions, to play their part so the functions of church can emerge and multiplication can continue.
206. Aila Tasse – From ‘Expert’ to ‘Multiplying Leader’ 26.06.2026 34:02
Aila Tasse shares his remarkable journey from being a Muslim-background believer and respected ministry expert to embracing disciple making movements. Along the way, God challenged his assumptions, dealt with his pride, and reshaped his understanding of church, leadership, and multiplication. In this episode you’ll hear: How Aila moved from expert-led ministry to empowering ordinary believers. The...
205. Aila Tasse – Model a Lifestyle of a Movement Leader #3 23.06.2026 28:48
In this episode, Aila continues exploring the lifestyle of a movement leader. Through the inspiring story of Roba, a person of peace in a remote African village whose influence has now extended through more than 14 generations of disciple-makers and churches, Aila shares why movement leaders must develop every disciple into a leader. Key Takeaways Faithful disciples pass on what they have learned...
204. Aila Tasse – Model a Lifestyle of a Movement Leader #2 12.06.2026 52:19
In this episode, Aila Tasse continues to unpack the importance of modelling as a disciple-maker and movement leader. Drawing from Scripture, movement experience, and his own story, Aila begins to explore the three critical stages of Disciple Making Movements: starting movements, multiplying movements, and sustaining movements. At the heart of each stage is leadership development, and Aila emphasis...
203. Aila Tasse – Model a Lifestyle of a Movement Leader 05.06.2026 50:18
Aila Tasse unpacks 1 Thessalonians 2:1–13 as a foundation for modelling a lifestyle of a movement leader, drawing from both Paul’s example and his own journey in disciple-making movements. He challenges us to identify the obstacles that hinder this lifestyle and to ask how they can be overcome. He calls us to respond to Jesus’ Great Commission through a daily rhythm of listening, obeying, applying...
202. Aila Tasse – Multiply Yourself into the Lives of Others 29.05.2026 27:41
We continue our series with Aila Tasse as we explore the heart of movements: multiplying our lives into the lives of others. Aila moves beyond methods and strategies and calls us back to the deeper lifestyle of a movement catalyst. Drawing from Acts 20, Philippians 3, and the life of Jesus, Aila reminds us that movements are not built through impressive resumes or polished presentations, but throu...
201. Aila Tasse – Start, Multiply and Sustain 22.05.2026 40:02
What does it take not only to start a disciple-making movement, but to see it multiply and remain for generations to come? In this episode, Aila Tasse calls us back to the heart of disciple-making: becoming before doing. Drawing again from John 15, Acts 20 and decades of experience training thousands of leaders across the nations, Aila shares why sustainable movements are ultimately “God stories”...
200. Aila Tasse – The Lifestyle of Abiding 15.05.2026 38:00
We’re celebrating our 200th episode of  Conversations As You Go ! Thank you for being part of this journey. With more than 30,000 listens from people all around the world, we’re grateful for the way this podcast continues to encourage and equip people to go and make disciples. In this milestone episode, we once again hear from Aila Tasse as he shares about abiding in the Vine from John 15:1-1...
199. Aila Tasse – Thinking Like a Movement Leader #2 08.05.2026 38:56
In this second episode with Aila Tasse, the conversation goes deeper into the mindset and character of a movement leader. Drawing mainly from Acts 20:17–32 and the early chapters of Acts, Aila reflects on dependence on God, obedience, Kingdom vision, leadership multiplication, and modelling the life of Jesus. At the heart of the episode is the conviction that disciple-making movements are sus...
198. Aila Tasse – Thinking Like a Movement Leader #1 01.05.2026 32:15
In this episode, Aila reflects on a DBS on Acts 20:17–32 ( last episode ) and what it means to think like a movement leader. At the core is the heart: movements belong to God, not us. As we follow Jesus’ example, we’re called to faithful stewardship—trusting that God is the one who begins, sustains, and multiplies. 1. Movements Belong to God Like Paul, leaders prepare others even if they won’t “...
197: The Catalyst’s Farewell – Aila Tassie 24.04.2026 20:48
In this recording, Aila Tassie isn’t just speaking; he is leading a room of Australian movement leaders through a Discovery Bible Study (DBS) on the final words of the Apostle Paul. It is a raw, interactive session where the “expert” intentionally steps back to let the community discover what it truly means to lead a movement. What does a movement leader leave behind when they kn...
196: Aila Tassie – The art of ‘come and follow me’ 18.04.2026 35:24
Before God calls anyone to “go,” He first calls them to “follow.” We often focus on the results of leadership—the numbers, the movements, and the strategies. But what if the most powerful thing a leader can do is simply unlearn everything they thought they knew? In this episode, we dive into a deep, vulnerable conversation from the  Movement Leaders Weekend in Melbourn...
195. Roy Moran – What does Meeting together look like? 10.04.2026 46:04
What does it mean to truly gather as a movement church today? In this episode, Roy Moran challenges the traditional “Sunday morning” legacy model, asking a vital question: what does a gathering look like that brings life but doesn’t breed dependency? Drawing from his experience transitioning a traditional congregation into a “hybrid church” strategy, Roy unpacks the g...
194. Roy Moran – Intro to Leaders Weekend 27.03.2026 25:19
Roy Moran kicks off a leaders weekend in City (last year in October 2025) with a powerful recap and vision for disciple-making movements. He shares key insights from global movements, including: What defines a movement (100+ churches across 4 generations) The scale of impact through New Generations (3M+ people, 177,000 groups) Why the gospel must not just grow—but scale Key Themes The Father’s Hea...
193. Roy Moran – Having the Right Attitude When Helping Others with DMM 19.03.2026 20:55
Introduction In this final episode with Roy Moran from his time with us in the Dandenong Ranges (Melbourne, 2025), we explore how to help local churches embrace Disciple Making Movements (DMM). Roy challenges our posture—calling us to humility, service, and a true Kingdom heart as we seek to empower others rather than bring ready-made solutions. Managing the Tension Between Traditional Church and...
192. Roy Moran – Form and Function and Importantly – Money 13.03.2026 36:13
What role should organisation play in disciple-making movements? In this episode, Roy Moran explores how structure, function, and money can either fuel or hinder movements. “The question is not the presence of structure, the question is whether the structure is being served or serving.” — Roy Moran Form and Function in Movements Movements are often described as organic , but every living organism...
191. Roy Moran: Helpful Hints, DBS and Not Being a Bottleneck 06.03.2026 10:12
In this short episode, Roy Moran shares practical insights on facilitating  Discovery Bible Studies (DBS)  without becoming a bottleneck. He encourages leaders to be ruthless about empowering others to facilitate, allowing people to “fail forward” as they learn. Roy explains that the simple DBS process is built around three core values: helping people  hear from God, respond in obed...
Episode 190. Roy Moran – Explaining Movements for Everyone 05.03.2026 17:17
In this short episode, we continue our series with Roy Moran as he explains disciple-making movements in simple, everyday language. Starting with the question, “What does God want?” Roy describes how he would explain movements on the back of a napkin—beginning with who God is and His relational heart for people. Rather than starting with jargon like “DMM,” Roy shows how movements are simply the...
189. Roy Moran – Developing a Healthy Lifestyle for Disciple-Makers 27.02.2026 42:57
In this episode, we continue our series with Roy Moran, focusing on how to develop a healthy, sustainable lifestyle as a disciple-maker. Jesus said, “I have come that you might have life and have it to the full” (John 10:10). Abundant life is meant to be the fruit of following and being transformed by Him — yet many of us feel tired, overextended, and constantly busy. Indian movement leaders often...
188. Roy Moran: Measuring Momentum Before Movement 20.02.2026 48:07
In this episode, we continue listening to Roy Moran’s 2025 training with us as Praxeis leaders, exploring a critical idea: momentum comes before movement . Roy grounds the conversation in Proverbs 27:23: “Be sure you know the condition of your flocks, give careful attention to your herds.” Movements can easily be treated like machines — measured by outputs, numbers, and generations. But disciple-m...
187. Starting Apostolic Teams and Collaborating Across Our City, Nation, and Nations 12.02.2026 30:53
In this episode, Roy continues sharing from our time together about starting apostolic teams and navigating the real challenges of collaboration. Starting Apostolic Teams This builds on Roy’s previous insights about forming teams made up of different roles — including movement catalysers, DMM strategists, prayer mobilisers, learning designers, coaching cultivators, apostolic pioneers, and disciple...
186. Birthing Teams for Movements 05.02.2026 32:00
In this episode, we continue on with Roy Moran’s teaching as we look at the different roles in movements as we birth teams. It’s important to know that we cannot do it alone. Our first question after God gives us a vision is always “who?” as we seek to replicate leadership in teams. Constant sharpening and failing in movement teams is crucial. If we don’t take risks, then there’s no need for...
185. Roy Moran – How Much Are You Worth? 18.12.2025 21:54
As we race toward the end of 2025 and look ahead to 2026, many of us find ourselves taking stock — of our year, our ministry, and even our own sense of worth. How are you feeling right now? Encouraged? Tired? Discouraged? In this our episode for the year, Roy Moran brings a timely and deeply pastoral word that calls us back to what we are truly worth — not based on our activity, outcomes, or per...
184. Roy Moran – Growth in Movements 12.12.2025 1:03:50
In this episode, we continue our series drawing from our training with Roy Moran and Aila Tasse . In this conversation, Roy shares the importance of focusing on the generators in disciple-making movements and reflects on several key shifts in his thinking and practice. He begins by telling parts of his own story and how he became involved in movements around the world. Key Shifts in Roy’s T...
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